Rails - Jun 2009 - Choosing RoR or CMS for a customer which wants to customize

Hello All, PLEASE HELP

I am starting the challenge of developing a business data site for a
customer.
As I heard RoR is so much object oriented and as I did lots of Java
programming in the past, I have started to learn RoR and fell in love
immediately.
I am having this tough dilemma of using RoR or choosing other famous
open source CMS.

On one hand I definitely prefer as a developer to build and control my
site and not be dependant and limited by some CMS. On the other hand, my
client requires to have the control of making manipulations to the site
using a browser - adding text, pictures and being able to change some
pages design.
So, even if ill build the best object oriented portal, I will be totally
horrored by the fact that I will find it hard or even impossible to
supply my client the ability to customize it using a browser.
Could anyone help, please? Is there a way of building a site using RoR,
and being able to FULLY allow users to customize it simliar to a CMS?

Many Thanks,
Will appreciate any help,
Oran
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

You are in luck my friend!

Take a look at Radiant (http://radiantcms.org).  It gives you the best
of both worlds:  a CMS written in Rails that you can extend all you
want with custom functionality.

Jamey


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Oran
Topaz<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Hello All, PLEASE HELP
>
> I am starting the challenge of developing a business data site for a
> customer.
> As I heard RoR is so much object oriented and as I did lots of Java
> programming in the past, I have started to learn RoR and fell in love
> immediately.
> I am having this tough dilemma of using RoR or choosing other famous
> open source CMS.
>
> On one hand I definitely prefer as a developer to build and control my
> site and not be dependant and limited by some CMS. On the other hand, my
> client requires to have the control of making manipulations to the site
> using a browser - adding text, pictures and being able to change some
> pages design.
> So, even if ill build the best object oriented portal, I will be totally
> horrored by the fact that I will find it hard or even impossible to
> supply my client the ability to customize it using a browser.
> Could anyone help, please? Is there a way of building a site using RoR,
> and being able to FULLY allow users to customize it simliar to a CMS?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Will appreciate any help,
> Oran
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>
>

Thanks for your kind answer,

Just to understand in theory - When I use a regular CMS, I can''t really
control the pages the way I like, or build my site framework nor my 
database, as I am used to when building a regular app.
Is radiant CMS different? Could I create pages independently using my 
favorite RoR IDE, and use radiant just to enjoy extensions and browser 
customizations? Does it store pages on database like joomla which is a 
major downgrade for me, or does it allow creating real html(.erb) 
pages??
Thank you,
Oran
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

It''s kind of the other way around...

Radiant *is* a Rails app, and, yes, it stores its pages in the db.
But, you can write extensions, which are kind of like plugins, which
is just like writing a rails app, meaning you have models,
controllers, and views.  And you can integrate these extensions into
your Radiant instance, so that, to the end-user, it is all seemless.
There are already a bunch of extensions that have been written that
you can use, or you can write your own.

I would suggest going to the radiant wiki on github and checking out
some of the documentation.

Jamey


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Oran
Topaz<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for your kind answer,
>
> Just to understand in theory - When I use a regular CMS, I can''t
really
> control the pages the way I like, or build my site framework nor my
> database, as I am used to when building a regular app.
> Is radiant CMS different? Could I create pages independently using my
> favorite RoR IDE, and use radiant just to enjoy extensions and browser
> customizations? Does it store pages on database like joomla which is a
> major downgrade for me, or does it allow creating real html(.erb)
> pages??
> Thank you,
> Oran
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>
>

Thank you,

I have just briefly looked into radiant. Although looks promising, yet i 
see that there is no WYSIWYG editor, and seems to yet lack many of the 
functionality Joomla contains.

There is a very nice HTML editor called FCKEDITOR which is commonly used 
by developpers. Would you know if it possible to integrate with RoR in a 
way a customer could actually change pages on a RoR site using it?


Thanks,
Oran
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

I''m pretty sure there are Radiant extensions that let you use
fckeditor, tinymce, or wymeditor.

It''s true that Joomla is more mature, but as soon as you have to do
any customizing, the beauty of Radiant is that you simply start
writing Rails code.  With Joomla, you have to use PHP.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Oran
Topaz<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Thank you,
>
> I have just briefly looked into radiant. Although looks promising, yet i
> see that there is no WYSIWYG editor, and seems to yet lack many of the
> functionality Joomla contains.
>
> There is a very nice HTML editor called FCKEDITOR which is commonly used
> by developpers. Would you know if it possible to integrate with RoR in a
> way a customer could actually change pages on a RoR site using it?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Oran
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>
>

+1 for Radiant CMS. It''s super easy to extend and there''s a
lot of
existing extensions too. WYSIWYG / WYSIWYM is one of them.

--
Roderick van Domburg
http://www.nedforce.com
-- 
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

Roderick van Domburg wrote:
> +1 for Radiant CMS. It''s super easy to extend and there''s
a lot of
> existing extensions too. WYSIWYG / WYSIWYM is one of them.
>   
+1
(and a great community!)

Cheers,
Mohit.
6/26/2009 | 7:09 PM.