Here''s the quick and dirty: Ticket.wasted.all.size => 1 Ticket.wasted.count => 10 It looks like the count operation is completely ignoring the :group option that the "wasted" named scope is setting. I am pretty sure calculations allow grouping, any idea why the :group option is being ignored here? Or does anyone know a work around for this? Thanks for your help. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.