meefster-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org
2009-Apr-10 10:19 UTC
New project in Merb or Rails?
Hi, I''m going to create a new web application. Currently I did all my applications with PHP/Zend Framework, but I want to explore new things, so I want to give Ruby and Rails/Merb a try. :) So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I should start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals of) ActiveRecord, so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the ongoing merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project with Merb or Rails? What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? Using what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 compatible? :) Christian --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
meefster-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote:> So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I > should > start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals of) > ActiveRecord, > so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the > ongoing > merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project > with Merb or Rails?Out of curiosity, what don''t you like?> What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? > Using > what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 > compatible?I can''t answer that question. Considering the existing userbases, my guesstimate would be Rails. -- Roderick van Domburg http://www.nedforce.nl -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Given the amount of support Rails have, I think you will face less migration issues (and I think there will be many) with a Rails project rather than a Merb one. Not to spark a debate here, but like what Roderick says about the userbase, you have a lot more people using Rails and naturally, there will be more collective support. On Apr 10, 7:11 pm, Roderick van Domburg <rails-mailing-l...@andreas- s.net> wrote:> meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote: > > So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I > > should > > start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals of) > > ActiveRecord, > > so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the > > ongoing > > merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project > > with Merb or Rails? > > Out of curiosity, what don''t you like? > > > What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? > > Using > > what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 > > compatible? > > I can''t answer that question. Considering the existing userbases, my > guesstimate would be Rails. > > -- > Roderick van Domburghttp://www.nedforce.nl > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
There are many frameworks and micro-frameworks available . like sinatra, camping , rails , merb , nanoc etc . Of those I believe RAILS has the most documentation and can be used for any efficiently for any scaling applications . Besides hostings are also available for Rails without hassles. On Apr 10, 11:57 pm, Jaryl Sim <quantum.crus...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Given the amount of support Rails have, I think you will face less > migration issues (and I think there will be many) with a Rails project > rather than a Merb one. Not to spark a debate here, but like what > Roderick says about the userbase, you have a lot more people using > Rails and naturally, there will be more collective support. > > On Apr 10, 7:11 pm, Roderick van Domburg <rails-mailing-l...@andreas- > > s.net> wrote: > > meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org wrote: > > > So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I > > > should > > > start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals of) > > > ActiveRecord, > > > so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the > > > ongoing > > > merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project > > > with Merb or Rails? > > > Out of curiosity, what don''t you like? > > > > What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? > > > Using > > > what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 > > > compatible? > > > I can''t answer that question. Considering the existing userbases, my > > guesstimate would be Rails. > > > -- > > Roderick van Domburghttp://www.nedforce.nl > > -- > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Merb is going to be merged into Rails 3. Here''s the blog post: http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/12/23/merb-gets-merged-into-rails-3 Obviously, I''d go with Rails ;-) Best, Jonathan On Apr 10, 7:19 pm, "meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" <meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > I''m going to create a new web application. Currently I did all my > applications > with PHP/Zend Framework, but I want to explore new things, so I want > to > give Ruby and Rails/Merb a try. :) > > So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I > should > start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals of) > ActiveRecord, > so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the > ongoing > merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project > with Merb or Rails? > > What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? > Using > what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 > compatible? > > :) > Christian--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Be a little careful with your thinking here or you may be very surprised at what eventuates as rails 3 ;) Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ On 11/04/2009, at 10:46 PM, Jonathan <wyscript-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Merb is going to be merged into Rails 3. Here''s the blog post: > > http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/12/23/merb-gets-merged-into-rails-3 > > Obviously, I''d go with Rails ;-) > > Best, > > Jonathan > > On Apr 10, 7:19 pm, "meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" > <meefs...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I''m going to create a new web application. Currently I did all my >> applications >> with PHP/Zend Framework, but I want to explore new things, so I want >> to >> give Ruby and Rails/Merb a try. :) >> >> So I''ve learned the Ruby basics and now I''m questioning myself if I >> should >> start developing using Merb or Rails? I don''t like (some internals >> of) >> ActiveRecord, >> so when using Rails I would try to use DataMapper. Concerning the >> ongoing >> merge of Rails&Merb, I''m not sure whether I should start the project >> with Merb or Rails? >> >> What do you think, is Rails 3.0 becoming more like Merb or Rails 2? >> Using >> what framework would require less effort to make it Rails 3 >> compatible? >> >> :) >> Christian > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---