Hi, I am happy as well as confused with this Rails 3.0 == Merb 2.0 scenario. I understand within few months ( during RailsConf 2009, in May 2009 ) Rails 3.0 will be out to the public, and there would be no more confusions. But...Still there are 100 days to go My question is... should i follow the currently available Rails books now or should i read the current Merb book and tutorials online. I am keen to know... what will happen in future... (1) Will Rails look more like Merb..? OR... (2) Will Merb will look like Rails ...? (3) What features should i study now in Rails, which will be helpful in Rails 3.0 (4) What features of Merb should i read now for future. I understand that the Rails team is going to adopt the best of features from Rails and Merb. But which features are going forward and which would be canceled are still not clear, and that''s what creates puzzles in my mind. Today is exactly one month after the Merge was announced, and many things are still hanging around.( Merger was announced on Dec 23rd, 2008 ) There are still 100 days to go for Rails 3.0, and i would like to use my 100 days in the best possible manner, so that i can be in tune with Rails 3.0. I do not want to waste my efforts after deprecated features. I am sure many would be puzzled like me here... What measures should we take now.. I hope few experts would come forward to guide us and make next 100 days a rewarding experience. Thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
It seems, no one has any idea about Rails 3.0 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi, you might want to read the following: http://yehudakatz.com/2008/12/23/rails-and-merb-merge/ Good luck, -Conrad On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Web Reservoir < rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > It seems, no one has any idea about Rails 3.0 > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Conrad Taylor wrote:> Hi, you might want to read the following: > http://yehudakatz.com/2008/12/23/rails-and-merb-merge/ >Thanks, But it does not clear whats coming and whats going. I need a perfect information to work out accordingly. Thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Truth be told, I don''t think that the core team knows exactly what is coming and going. Best thing to do is to try and read up on Katz''s blog and check the GitHub commits to see what is being done there. On Jan 26, 11:06 pm, Web Reservoir <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Conrad Taylor wrote: > > Hi, you might want to read the following: > >http://yehudakatz.com/2008/12/23/rails-and-merb-merge/ > > Thanks, But it does not clear whats coming and whats going. > > I need a perfect information to work out accordingly. > > Thanks > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Nobody knows exactly yet! Be patient and have faith that the rails/ merb guys know what they are doing. On 27/01/2009, at 15:06, Web Reservoir <rails-mailing-list@andreas- s.net> wrote:> > Conrad Taylor wrote: >> Hi, you might want to read the following: >> http://yehudakatz.com/2008/12/23/rails-and-merb-merge/ >> > Thanks, But it does not clear whats coming and whats going. > > I need a perfect information to work out accordingly. > > Thanks > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi, I read that Rails 2.3 will be the pre-cursor to Rails 3.0. Also, Rails 3.0 by default will include what you''re using now with the relevant Merb additions and/or enhancements. The exact details are forthcoming. Next, you''re not forced to upgrade your production systems until you''re ready. Furthermore, you can always check the commits on Github, experiment with Edge Rails, and check the various blog posts from contributors and trackers. Lastly, the projected date of release for the system is within the month of May but it''s not clear as to what form this will be (i.e. RC1, RC2, or Final). Good luck, -Conrad On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Web Reservoir < rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Conrad Taylor wrote: > > Hi, you might want to read the following: > > http://yehudakatz.com/2008/12/23/rails-and-merb-merge/ > > > Thanks, But it does not clear whats coming and whats going. > > I need a perfect information to work out accordingly. > > Thanks > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The way I understood the majority of code will run happy and unchanged under 3.0. There will probably be some lines of code that will have to be changed or could be minimized and still work as expected. There will also be some gems and plugins which will have to be updated to work properly with the last version (which is nothing new, happens with every minor version). The main idea of merging two projects was to bring the best of both worlds to users and not to provoke another fork because of too many changes. If you have time learn both and choose the one it suits you best when you will have a project. I personaly would learn Rails. by TheR -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I hope, many things will be cleared by next month. I would also appreciate, if more information is shared here. Thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
You will know on a need-to-know basis and right now you don''t need to know. We can''t give information if there''s nothing else to share. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---