Sorry for my rudeness. I really appreciate rails core team who bring and maintain the great rails framework. I learned and benefited a lot and a lot. as merb is coming out, its purpose and strategy overlaps with rails everywhere. As I know, it was borned for rescue some *old* rails shortcomings, I dived into codes of both, for now, rails still have some architecture problems, while merb is clean but young. Since rails core team is always exposing courage to throw dirties away, is there any plan to merge merb and rails into one big thing? In my opinion, merb is more like rails 3.0 after a throughout refactory. By the way, I play with merb at part time and use rails for work. I digged nearly every corner of rails source code to add my extensions. for example,make STI accept foreign_type_mapping to customize the mapping between column value and subclass name. I suffered a lot to hack rails code everywhere for customize it. I really think that rails need a throughout refactory before I met merb. (I offered little feedbacks to community because we are basing on rails 1.2.6, please forgive me for that. and I posted several tech articles to native language forums) I know there are lots of problems if merge them together: technique reason, preference reason, politics reason... http://brainspl.at/articles/2008/04/25/hey-rails-nice-rack Ezra Zygmuntowicz said 6 days later: @Kevin- At this point merb is not going anywhere. If the rails core team wanted to get radical and decide to build rails 3.0 on top of merb-core technology then I might consider merging the two projects. But I think that would take a lot of politics and I''m not sure if they would agree to it. So don''t fret, merb is here to stay unless the rails-core has a drastic change of heart. And the code base for merb is *way* more simple and scalable for the future since it has no baggage. So expect merb to stick around and innovate for a long time to come. I just figured that there is no reason for everyone using Rails to suffer when I could spend a few weeks and improve a bunch of stuff for folks. Anyway, Is there any possibility to merge them? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
It was happen! http://railsgeek.com/2008/12/23/rails-3-rails-and-merb-merge sliu wrote:> Sorry for my rudeness. > > I really appreciate rails core team who bring and maintain the great > rails framework. I learned and benefited a lot and a lot. > > as merb is coming out, its purpose and strategy overlaps with rails > everywhere. > As I know, it was borned for rescue some *old* rails shortcomings, > I dived into codes of both, for now, rails still have some > architecture problems, while merb is clean but young. >-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Anatoly Mikhailov schrieb:> It was happen! > http://railsgeek.com/2008/12/23/rails-3-rails-and-merb-merge >Maybe that''s good for rails. But I think it''s horrible for me: Each time I think I know a little bit more about rails there''s something new in the next rails version. First I read about rails 1.0. But in rails 1.2 everything has changed what was covered in every rails 1.0 tutorial. Then I read about test driven development. But now behaviour driven development is the preferred way. Instead of html.erb you better use haml. So let''s wait and see what rails 3.0 will bring up... Martin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Martin No wrote:> Anatoly Mikhailov schrieb: >> It was happen! >> http://railsgeek.com/2008/12/23/rails-3-rails-and-merb-merge >> > > Maybe that''s good for rails. But I think it''s horrible for me: Each time > I think I know a little bit more about rails there''s something new in > the next rails version. > First I read about rails 1.0. But in rails 1.2 everything has changed > what was covered in every rails 1.0 tutorial. > Then I read about test driven development. But now behaviour driven > development is the preferred way. > Instead of html.erb you better use haml. > So let''s wait and see what rails 3.0 will bring up... > > MartinAs Matz says, if you don''t move forward, you die (paraphrasing, of course). Besides, all those things you bring up will be handled BETTER in Rails 3.0. First you will have a public API. This means the rails core team will be committed to keeping that API the same. So you don''t have to ''un-learn'' so much stuff when upgrading to future versions. Second, Rails 3.0 will be more modular, so you can more easily swap out parts you don''t want. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Rails 3.0 is going to bring script/generate site [digg|facebook| myspace|lastfm] ----- Ryan Bigg Freelancer http://frozenplague.net On 24/12/2008, at 8:48 AM, Martin wrote:> > Anatoly Mikhailov schrieb: >> It was happen! >> http://railsgeek.com/2008/12/23/rails-3-rails-and-merb-merge >> > > Maybe that''s good for rails. But I think it''s horrible for me: Each > time > I think I know a little bit more about rails there''s something new in > the next rails version. > First I read about rails 1.0. But in rails 1.2 everything has changed > what was covered in every rails 1.0 tutorial. > Then I read about test driven development. But now behaviour driven > development is the preferred way. > Instead of html.erb you better use haml. > So let''s wait and see what rails 3.0 will bring up... > > Martin > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
My colegue once sad. Where there are more solutions none of them is good, because if one was good enough no one would use anything else. (I guess he didn''t heard for democracy at the time ;-) It is great news to hear that two (nonperfect) solutions are about to merge to make a better world for all of us, Ruby lovers. We just hope that spirit of the christmas time will extend to new year when the work will have to be done. Marry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone by TheR -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---