Hi
while searching through the old posts I got this very old post..
http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/68101
Since all its answers are old I am posting my concern as seperate
But may I ask the source question again?
I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby''s Future?
This is just to know only..I am from India...Why I am asking this is in
India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont
know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by
big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? So may
I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear
answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like
to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market
Thanks in advance
Sijo
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If everyone that "loves" ruby stand for it in the projects where it fits ruby prevails :) In my case I use C# and Java on my daily job and PHP and RoR on my freelance projects. But I''ve showed RoR to boss, he tryed and now he''s aiming for some intranets in rails :) As every thing in life, stand for it! On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Sijo Kg <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > Hi > while searching through the old posts I got this very old post.. > > http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/68101 > Since all its answers are old I am posting my concern as seperate > > But may I ask the source question again? > I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby''s Future? > This is just to know only..I am from India...Why I am asking this is in > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? So may > I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear > answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like > to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market > > Thanks in advance > Sijo > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> So may I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear > answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like > to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market >And while you''re at it (looking into your crystal balls) tell me next week''s lottery numbers... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I think the future is bright ... but I''m an idealist. :) On Oct 11, 3:42 am, Sijo Kg <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi > while searching through the old posts I got this very old post.. > > http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/68101 > Since all its answers are old I am posting my concern as seperate > > But may I ask the source question again? > I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby''s Future? > This is just to know only..I am from India...Why I am asking this is in > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? So may > I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear > answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like > to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market > > Thanks in advance > Sijo > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
hi,> I expect a clear answer .first - i understand the reaction of Codeblogger... totally... ;-) second - i (also totally) agree with Bobnation and especially with Helio Rocha> Why I am asking this is in > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP?about that, i guess, clear answers are possible - what else do you expect from "big companies"? They are like dinosaurs - heavy and slow think of the beginning of Java or PHP, think of the late nineties, when you try to compare it with Ruby or Rails 2008. Look at the pace with which Java/PHP have entered the market Rails entered history in 2004 - just four years and it already is ante portas i am a database programmer (some friends think, that the debugger is my favorite GUI ;-) ) - and i use Rails, because you can combine business and web so easily. Add to this SOA - and you may see, why my bet is on Rails btw: my bet is also that you will not have to wait for "job postings of big IT companies" until 2018 - think of the projects about Rails of IBM, Microsoft, SAP... alas - no clear answer, just bets ;-) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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2008-Oct-13 14:03 UTC
Re: Future of Ruby as well as Rails
For what it''s worth, the fact that Ruby does not yet rule the world is counted as a reason against it''s adoption. Big companies want to know they can just hire any old programmer and get production. They don''t want to have to search for a specialist. Here''s an example: At my last job, the boss was a very smart guy who was very open to new things. (Not something you find in a lot of managers). He gave me a project that I implemented in Rails. The boss left the company. A few weeks later, so did I (because somebody offered me a 50% raise to do Rails all day long). At that point, the Rails project I had been working on was in beta testing. The only thing the new boss knew about Rails was that it wasn''t PHP and he couldn''t understand it. The programmer who took over the project from me didn''t know Rails or even Ruby. He struggled for a while, then gave up and re-wrote the application logic in PHP. There were at least 2 other people in the office who could deal with PHP and the boss was happy to have it done in something that would not depend on one particular person. In a year or two, when that programmer is at another job and Rails comes up again, he''ll have already had some exposure and will be more receptive. At that point, he''ll learn to love it. That''s the way adoption works. Rails is a great platform with a great future. The best is yet to come. On Oct 12, 7:07 am, Oldtimer <bev...-36+Us14uncmELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> hi, > > > I expect a clear answer . > > first - i understand the reaction of Codeblogger... > > totally... ;-) > > second - i (also totally) agree with Bobnation and especially with > Helio Rocha > > > Why I am asking this is in > > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? > > about that, i guess, clear answers are possible - what else do you > expect from "big companies"? They are like dinosaurs - heavy and slow > > think of the beginning of Java or PHP, think of the late nineties, > when you try to compare it with Ruby or Rails 2008. Look at the pace > with which Java/PHP have entered the market > > Rails entered history in 2004 - just four years and it already is ante > portas > > i am a database programmer (some friends think, that the debugger is > my favorite GUI ;-) ) - and i use Rails, because you can combine > business and web so easily. Add to this SOA - and you may see, why my > bet is on Rails > > btw: my bet is also that you will not have to wait for "job postings > of big IT companies" until 2018 - think of the projects about Rails of > IBM, Microsoft, SAP... > > alas - no clear answer, just bets ;-)--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The future will be really bright if you look @ WEB2.0 hype. RoR and W2.0 are very well gelled and hence till WEB3.0 comes up with a similar gel, RoR will rock! For Biggis, since RoR is free, it can not generate as revenue as .net (from client as well as from MS to promote it :-))) So, it is like Linux, novell took it lot many years to understand why RedHat is doing a Linux and SCO died before knowing it! But what I think will really matter is not mindset, but Ruby should not go by JAVA way; like creating 10 different ways of doing a same thing and documenting each way in 10 different manner. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Sijo Kg wrote:> Hi > I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby''s Future?it is good for agile development> This is just to know only..I am from India...because indian companies are good followers(means they are not creaters) and they won''t beleive open sources also. at nowdays rails is booming in UK ,US,etc. after some 2+ years those indian companies will work in rails for agile web development(They will simply follow from others).> Why I am asking this is in > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category.nowdays the number of companies who are working in rails is rapidly increasing in india.> compare to Java and PHP? So may > I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear > answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like > to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job marketi thing the job market ll be good after 3+ years in india> Thanks in advance > Sijo-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
if you look at things like JRuby which allow easier transition into Java corporate environments, I think this only helps. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM, poecide-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <poecide-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > For what it''s worth, the fact that Ruby does not yet rule the world is > counted as a reason against it''s adoption. Big companies want to know > they can just hire any old programmer and get production. They don''t > want to have to search for a specialist. Here''s an example: > > At my last job, the boss was a very smart guy who was very open to new > things. (Not something you find in a lot of managers). He gave me a > project that I implemented in Rails. The boss left the company. A few > weeks later, so did I (because somebody offered me a 50% raise to do > Rails all day long). At that point, the Rails project I had been > working on was in beta testing. > > The only thing the new boss knew about Rails was that it wasn''t PHP > and he couldn''t understand it. The programmer who took over the > project from me didn''t know Rails or even Ruby. He struggled for a > while, then gave up and re-wrote the application logic in PHP. There > were at least 2 other people in the office who could deal with PHP and > the boss was happy to have it done in something that would not depend > on one particular person. > > In a year or two, when that programmer is at another job and Rails > comes up again, he''ll have already had some exposure and will be more > receptive. At that point, he''ll learn to love it. That''s the way > adoption works. Rails is a great platform with a great future. The > best is yet to come. > > > > On Oct 12, 7:07 am, Oldtimer <bev...-36+Us14uncmELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > hi, > > > > > I expect a clear answer . > > > > first - i understand the reaction of Codeblogger... > > > > totally... ;-) > > > > second - i (also totally) agree with Bobnation and especially with > > Helio Rocha > > > > > Why I am asking this is in > > > India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont > > > know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by > > > big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? > > > > about that, i guess, clear answers are possible - what else do you > > expect from "big companies"? They are like dinosaurs - heavy and slow > > > > think of the beginning of Java or PHP, think of the late nineties, > > when you try to compare it with Ruby or Rails 2008. Look at the pace > > with which Java/PHP have entered the market > > > > Rails entered history in 2004 - just four years and it already is ante > > portas > > > > i am a database programmer (some friends think, that the debugger is > > my favorite GUI ;-) ) - and i use Rails, because you can combine > > business and web so easily. Add to this SOA - and you may see, why my > > bet is on Rails > > > > btw: my bet is also that you will not have to wait for "job postings > > of big IT companies" until 2018 - think of the projects about Rails of > > IBM, Microsoft, SAP... > > > > alas - no clear answer, just bets ;-) > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---