I have seen few posts where people are complaining about of Rails documentation. I myself had lots of troubles with it, perhaps because of my exposure to PHP. This is my third attempt to learn Rails, and at last I am getting somewhere. I even made a little tutorial as an exercise. http://www.jacekpodkanski.uklinux.net/rails/totorial1.html I intent to improve what I have done so far and add to it as I learn Rails, so hopefully I will fill the gap between the simple tutorial and API documentation learning Rails and maybe helping others like me. Please tell me what you think of it. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I am in the process of learning Rails. This is my third attempt, and I hope that at last I am getting somewhere. I intend to write a tutorial based on my experiences, so I can also help others who like me have problem with Rails documentation. So please send me your comments and ideas especially if you come from PHP background. I already done 1st part of the tutorial showing how to use Ruby scripting, display Hello World and use database. That 1st part is on my homepage, but I''m not sure if I can post links to the tutorial here. I can do it later if anybody is interested. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Without a doubt more documentation on the latest Rails 2.1 is needed ;o) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Up to now I thought that documentation on http://api.rubyonrails.org/ was for the latest version of Rails, but when I compared the modification date with release of Rails I had a little shock. I think it is too big task for me to write up-to-date comprehensive documentation. I thought about starting from simple tutorial and and then trying to build a bridge between simple documentation and the API, even if it is not up-to-date. My humble aim at the moment is to become productive using Rails, and help others like me, who are trying to learn Rails. I wonder how people cope not having up to date documentation. Are they looking into Rails source code? 2008/8/28 DC <support3css-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> > Without a doubt more documentation on the latest Rails 2.1 is > needed ;o) > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Jacek Podkanski <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Up to now I thought that documentation on http://api.rubyonrails.org/ > was for the latest version of Rails, but when I compared the > modification date with release of Rails I had a little shock. I think > it is too big task for me to write up-to-date comprehensive > documentation. > > I thought about starting from simple tutorial and and then trying to > build a bridge between simple documentation and the API, even if it is > not up-to-date. My humble aim at the moment is to become productive > using Rails, and help others like me, who are trying to learn Rails. > > I wonder how people cope not having up to date documentation. Are they > looking into Rails source code?Rails is big. You can''t read a tutorial and jump to the API. I think the most common path to learn Rails is to read the musts and program. The API is meant as a reference. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>:> > > Rails is big. You can''t read a tutorial and jump to the API. > > I think the most common path to learn Rails is to read the musts and > program. The API is meant as a reference.The tutorials I have read so far give only you ready made solutions to authors example problems. They don''t teach you to explore and play with things. On one hand they give too much theory for a newbie and on the other hand they don''t show you how you can use API and other documentation to play and experiment. My progress only started when I have abandoned copying tutorials and started experimenting. At last I am able to do some of the things that I was able to do in PHP. Still I have no idea how to find my ways round the API. I have stumbled upon few things by accident, so there is hope. Still I have no idea what I am supposed to do with models and what code should go there, but already I can use database and display it''s content.> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Jacek Podkanski <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> My progress only started when I have abandoned copying tutorials and > started experimenting. At last I am able to do some of the things that > I was able to do in PHP. Still I have no idea how to find my ways > round the API. I have stumbled upon few things by accident, so there > is hope.Playing around is a very inefficient way to progress in my opinion. Spend a couple of months reading some musts and you''ll have an entirely different perspective (you being generic). That in addition to program of course. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
It''s one thing to say "the documentation is broken" and another to say "there''s no documentation for these methods/classes:" and list the methods/classes. Somebody out there should be able to help you as long as you''re not vague. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>:> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Jacek Podkanski > <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> My progress only started when I have abandoned copying tutorials and >> started experimenting. At last I am able to do some of the things that >> I was able to do in PHP. Still I have no idea how to find my ways >> round the API. I have stumbled upon few things by accident, so there >> is hope. > > Playing around is a very inefficient way to progress in my opinion. > Spend a couple of months reading some musts and you''ll have an > entirely different perspective (you being generic). That in addition > to program of course.Everybody''s different, your approach to me is like spending few months reading the musts teaching you how to ride a bicycle before you learn to ride. I need to do both reading and playing/experimenting. When I was only reading tutorial I was getting nowhere. I wonder if there are others who prefere my approach to learning Rails, so writing a tutorial for people like me wouldn''t be a waste of time> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Jacek Podkanski <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Everybody''s different, your approach to me is like spending few months > reading the musts teaching you how to ride a bicycle before you learn > to ride.No, no, that''s why I said you need to program as well as reading. But if you only read you''re progress will be slow, unfocused, with friction. You can''t drive an airplane just by copy & paste and playing around. You need to study the instruments and now formally how things work to be able to know what''s available and how to use it. The main oroblem with just playing around is that you don''t know what you don''t know. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> But if you only read you''re progress will be slow, unfocused, with > friction.If you only program I mean. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>:> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Jacek Podkanski > <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Everybody''s different, your approach to me is like spending few months >> reading the musts teaching you how to ride a bicycle before you learn >> to ride. > > No, no, that''s why I said you need to program as well as reading.I''m glad you understand me.> > But if you only read you''re progress will be slow, unfocused, with > friction. You can''t drive an airplane just by copy & paste and playing > around.I agree with you about copy & paste, but I think my definition of playing aorund is different than yours, and this is why I was able to make significant progress> You need to study the instruments and know formally how things > work to be able to know what''s available and how to use it.Imagine M. Faraday who didn''t have satisfying documentation about that how electromagnetism works, he studied by playing and experimenting, not by reading. Reading can save me time so I do not have to reinvent the wheel, but it is not the only way to make progress. Before I was able to experiment I had to read several times some impenetrable book. So I can see your point. The problem is that only 1st chapter was useful to me.> > The main problem with just playing around is that you don''t know what > you don''t know.You will never know everything, especially in situations where documentation should be improved. My problem is to know what I need to know, I do not intend to know everything, but constantly increase my knowledge.> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Jacek Podkanski <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Imagine M. Faraday who didn''t have satisfying documentation about that > how electromagnetism works, he studied by playing and experimenting, > not by reading.Note that I don''t say you do not progress, I say your progress is slow and unfocused, compared to the progress you can do if you study, like a martial artist, a piano player, a chessmaster. Study and practice. If Faraday had the modern books he would have been done in an epsilon of the time he needed to figure everything out by himself. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Xavier Noria <fxn-xlncskNFVEJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>:> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Jacek Podkanski > <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Imagine M. Faraday who didn''t have satisfying documentation about that >> how electromagnetism works, he studied by playing and experimenting, >> not by reading. > > Note that I don''t say you do not progress, I say your progress is slow > and unfocused, compared to the progress you can do if you study, like > a martial artist, a piano player, a chessmaster. Study and practice. > > If Faraday had the modern books he would have been done in an epsilon > of the time he needed to figure everything out by himself.I do not intend to try to figure out everything by myself. I only think that some people need to experiment a little to understand how things work and maybe have more enthusiasm for further study. A bit like a kid who was playing with chemistry set, and later went to university to study chemistry. I think that a composer is a piano player, who experiments with new melodies or styles so there is a room both for study and experimenting,> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Jacek Podkanski wrote:> I have seen few posts where people are complaining about of Rails > documentation. I myself had lots of troubles with it, perhaps because > of my exposure to PHP. This is my third attempt to learn Rails, and at > last I am getting somewhere. I even made a little tutorial as an > exercise. http://www.jacekpodkanski.uklinux.net/rails/totorial1.html > > I intent to improve what I have done so far and add to it as I learn > Rails, so hopefully I will fill the gap between the simple tutorial > and API documentation learning Rails and maybe helping others like > me. > > Please tell me what you think of it.Hi, i am also having PHP background too. There are many PHP programmers who has been working on rails very successfully, yes i am too. if you want to learn rails with in like one or two week with particles. ya it is very simple. Please follow these following steps. first setp- start with this very short book(The Little book of Ruby).This is free. http://www.sapphiresteel.com/The-Little-Book-Of-Ruby second step- find this book from google John McCreesh - Learn Ruby On Rails in 4 Days (August 2005).pdf use this book, use and rails version(i suggest to learn) use older version of rails like(1.23,1.2.4.....etc) and use SCIte editor(free and with Ruby installer) for development. Thanks Purab -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Purab Kharat <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>:> > Jacek Podkanski wrote: >> I have seen few posts where people are complaining about of Rails >> documentation. I myself had lots of troubles with it, perhaps because >> of my exposure to PHP. This is my third attempt to learn Rails, and at >> last I am getting somewhere. I even made a little tutorial as an >> exercise. http://www.jacekpodkanski.uklinux.net/rails/totorial1.html >> >> I intent to improve what I have done so far and add to it as I learn >> Rails, so hopefully I will fill the gap between the simple tutorial >> and API documentation learning Rails and maybe helping others like >> me. >> >> Please tell me what you think of it. > > Hi, > > i am also having PHP background too. There are many PHP programmers who > has been working on rails very successfully, yes i am too. > > if you want to learn rails with in like one or two week with particles. > ya it is very simple. > > Please follow these following steps. > first setp- start with this very short book(The Little book of > Ruby).This is free. > http://www.sapphiresteel.com/The-Little-Book-Of-Ruby > > second step- find this book from google > John McCreesh - Learn Ruby On Rails in 4 Days (August 2005).pdf > use this book, use and rails version(i suggest to learn) > use older version of rails like(1.23,1.2.4.....etc) > and use SCIte editor(free and with Ruby installer) for development. > > Thanks > PurabMaybe my problem is that I''m not a real programmer, I was only programming when I needed something for myself or friends. Perhaps proper programmers are comfortable with a different approach, but I need experiment with things. I have learned Ruby few years ago. But when I tried to learn Rails at first I stumbled over meta-programming syntax, and I couldn''t even understand how to make on my own very simple dynamic page that would also use data from database. Now I got past this point so I feel I will be inspired by the Rails in 4 Days book to make further progress. As I have used old documentation and experimenting to get so far.> > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
My two cents. There''s a whole hell of a lot to be said for getting out there and coding and getting your feet wet but, unlike PHP where there are no conventions and "rules", sometimes just "experimenting" with Rails instead of reading [_instead of_ not _along with_] instructional materials can often lead one down the wrong paths, reinforcing non-Rails-way methodology, and creating Frankencode monstrosities. For example, how would one ever stumble on the core idea of MVC just playing with code? Books, guides, tutorials all have good places in my opinion. YMMV RSL --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Jacek Podkanski <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> [snip]> I have learned Ruby few years ago. But when I tried to learn Rails at > first I stumbled over meta-programming syntax, and I couldn''t even > understand how to make on my own very simple dynamic page that would > also use data from database. >If have truly learned Ruby, then you would have learned meta-programming.> > Now I got past this point so I feel I will be inspired by the Rails in > 4 Days book to make further progress. As I have used old documentation > and experimenting to get so far.Good luck, -Conrad --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Russell Norris <rsl-ftMzyaTR+bHNyFkoKTPOtdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>:> > My two cents. There''s a whole hell of a lot to be said for getting out > there and coding and getting your feet wet but, unlike PHP where there > are no conventions and "rules", sometimes just "experimenting" with > Rails instead of reading [_instead of_ not _along with_] instructional > materials can often lead one down the wrong paths, reinforcing > non-Rails-way methodology, and creating Frankencode monstrosities. For > example, how would one ever stumble on the core idea of MVC just > playing with code? Books, guides, tutorials all have good places in my > opinion. YMMV > > RSLI must admit you are correct, I do realise I could write bad PHP style code in Rails. But somebody had to come up with MVC idea before it was in the books, so there is hope that my desire to experiment might one day give some interesting results. You are correct about the book and tutorials, but experimenting and trying new things is also important. After all this is one of the reasons why i am trying to learn Rails.> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Russell Norris <rsl-ftMzyaTR+bHNyFkoKTPOtdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > My two cents. There''s a whole hell of a lot to be said for getting out > there and coding and getting your feet wet but, unlike PHP where there > are no conventions and "rules", sometimes just "experimenting" with > Rails instead of reading [_instead of_ not _along with_] instructional > materials can often lead one down the wrong paths, reinforcing > non-Rails-way methodology, and creating Frankencode monstrosities. For > example, how would one ever stumble on the core idea of MVC just > playing with code? Books, guides, tutorials all have good places in my > opinion. YMMV > > RSLYes, I think is very important to understand the concepts by reading the relevant book(s) and reinforce those concepts by coding. Thus, you''ll do some reading, do some coding, and do some more reading, and so on. This is pretty much how my computer science course work did it and it has been very effective in learning the material or anything for that matter. Good luck, -Conrad --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2008/8/29 Conrad Taylor <conradwt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Jacek Podkanski > <ruby.object-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> I have learned Ruby few years ago. But when I tried to learn Rails at >> first I stumbled over meta-programming syntax, and I couldn''t even >> understand how to make on my own very simple dynamic page that would >> also use data from database. > > If have truly learned Ruby, then you would have learned meta-programming.Well, I do not have a "black belt" in Ruby yet. but I am in the process of exploring meta-programming. Hope that I will get more advice from people on this forum, but I will never renounce playing and experimenting, even if I will study seriously as I was advised before.> >> >> Now I got past this point so I feel I will be inspired by the Rails in >> 4 Days book to make further progress. As I have used old documentation >> and experimenting to get so far. > > Good luck, > -ConradThank you> > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---