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David Schwartz

2008-May-28 19:21 UTC

Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE provides.
Searching
around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
there were one or two that stood out above the others?

TIA,
David

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Justin Kozuch

2008-May-28 19:29 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

David,

I use Textmate (http://www.macromates.com), however, I''m on the Mac.
Can''t
speak to Windows based editors.

Has lots of support for Ruby and ROR.

- Justin

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM, David Schwartz
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> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> TIA,
> David
>
> >
>
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Bill Walton

2008-May-28 20:16 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Personally, I''m opposed to IDEs.  They *enable* complexity by making it
easier to avoid facing.  Without one, you''ll avoid it because
it''ll be right
in your face.  I typically use a program called TextMate and have developed
a fairly good sized app using just it.  If you stick to the MVC convention,
you can too.  If you insist on an IDE, NetBeans is pretty good

Best regards
Bill
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> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
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> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> TIA,
> David
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Adam Crossland

2008-May-28 20:17 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

NetBeans 6.1 is my choice.  It has excellent, thorough support for RoR
development.
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John Yerhot

2008-May-28 20:17 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Textmate is pretty much the official editor for Rails, but you might
want to look at Aptana:
http://www.aptana.com/

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> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
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> TIA,
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jason white

2008-May-28 20:21 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

i prefer netbeans over aptana, but that is just a person preference. they
are both very capable IDE''s.

Jason

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM, John Yerhot
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>
> Textmate is pretty much the official editor for Rails, but you might
> want to look at Aptana:
> http://www.aptana.com/
>
> On May 28, 2:21 pm, David Schwartz
<david...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> > around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> > there were one or two that stood out above the others?
> >
> > TIA,
> > David
> >
>
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John Yerhot

2008-May-28 20:28 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Textmate is pretty much the official editor for Rails, but you might
want to look at Aptana:
http://www.aptana.com/

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> TIA,
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Weverton Gomes

2008-May-28 20:32 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I prefer NetBeans too.

2008/5/28 jason white
<stonesoupandboiledfrogs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> i prefer netbeans over aptana, but that is just a person preference. they
> are both very capable IDE''s.
>
> Jason
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM, John Yerhot
<joyerhot-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Textmate is pretty much the official editor for Rails, but you might
>> want to look at Aptana:
>> http://www.aptana.com/
>>
>> On May 28, 2:21 pm, David Schwartz
<david...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an
IDE provides. Searching
>> > around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering
whether
>> > there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > David >>
>>

-- 
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John Yerhot

2008-May-28 20:41 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Textmate is pretty much the official editor for Rails, but you might
want to look at Aptana:
http://www.aptana.com/

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> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
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> TIA,
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James H.

2008-May-28 20:47 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I''m using MacVim (and gVim when at work on my Windows box) these
days.  I like it quite a bit.  I used to use TextMate, but found the
expansive UI got in the way sometimes when on the road.  As I grew
with Vim, I found that I really missed its modal nature when I went
back to TextMate.  So, MacVim it is.

Hopefully TextMate 2 supports modal editing (via a plugin or
otherwise).

James H.

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wrote:> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
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> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> TIA,
> David--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
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Roger Berger

2008-May-28 20:56 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I asked this a few months ago and the result was
about:

Netbeans - 6
Others (I forget which one)- 1


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silkcom

2008-May-28 20:57 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Radrails (if you can get it downloaded and working it''s pretty
awesome).  definetly has it''s drawbacks, but is powerful and very
helpful.

On May 28, 1:21 pm, David Schwartz
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wrote:> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> TIA,
> David
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mel ram

2008-May-28 20:59 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I''m using Aptana RadRails. It could be better but I like it. Overall,
it''s like a text editor with file manager, rails console and server
manager.

On May 28, 1:47 pm, "James H."
<james.herd...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> I''m using MacVim (and gVim when at work on my Windows box) these
> days.  I like it quite a bit.  I used to use TextMate, but found the
> expansive UI got in the way sometimes when on the road.  As I grew
> with Vim, I found that I really missed its modal nature when I went
> back to TextMate.  So, MacVim it is.
>
> Hopefully TextMate 2 supports modal editing (via a plugin or
> otherwise).
>
> James H.
>
> On May 28, 3:21 pm, David Schwartz
<david...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> > around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> > there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> > TIA,
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Ruby Freak

2008-May-29 01:21 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

This is one of those topics that seems to evoke heated arguments. Many
people swear that a real programmer won''t use anything but a terminal
window. I like an IDE and I don''t do "catch and release" fly
fishing
either. So, now that you know that a purist I am not...

I have both Netbeans and Apatana on my box. I use Aptana just because
it gives good continuity between the file structure and the files you
want to edit. BUT... I also run a terminal at the same time. The
Aptana IDE has a bug where it will not kill the mongrel process, but
it tells you it has. Don''t start or stop your server with Apatana and
don''t try to debug inside Aptana. Use the terminal window.

I wish Textmate would run on Ubuntu, if it did, I would use it, but I
don''t have a mac. (the next reply will tell me that it does and I will
feel stupid)

On May 28, 1:59 pm, mel ram
<mel...-IA9i2KS8NFBpEKysQ+xqfPpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> I''m using Aptana RadRails. It could be better but I like it.
Overall,
> it''s like a text editor with file manager, rails console and
server
> manager.
>
> On May 28, 1:47 pm, "James H."
<james.herd...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I''m using MacVim (and gVim when at work on my Windows box)
these
> > days.  I like it quite a bit.  I used to use TextMate, but found the
> > expansive UI got in the way sometimes when on the road.  As I grew
> > with Vim, I found that I really missed its modal nature when I went
> > back to TextMate.  So, MacVim it is.
>
> > Hopefully TextMate 2 supports modal editing (via a plugin or
> > otherwise).
>
> > James H.
>
> > On May 28, 3:21 pm, David Schwartz
<david...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an
IDE provides. Searching
> > > around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering
whether
> > > there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> > > TIA,
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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa

2008-May-29 01:32 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I don''t have anything againts IDE''s...

My choice is Aptana... I''m on Linux, Ubuntu to be specific :)

Marcelo.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Ruby Freak
<twscannell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> This is one of those topics that seems to evoke heated arguments. Many
> people swear that a real programmer won''t use anything but a
terminal
> window. I like an IDE and I don''t do "catch and release"
fly fishing
> either. So, now that you know that a purist I am not...
>
> I have both Netbeans and Apatana on my box. I use Aptana just because
> it gives good continuity between the file structure and the files you
> want to edit. BUT... I also run a terminal at the same time. The
> Aptana IDE has a bug where it will not kill the mongrel process, but
> it tells you it has. Don''t start or stop your server with Apatana
and
> don''t try to debug inside Aptana. Use the terminal window.
>
> I wish Textmate would run on Ubuntu, if it did, I would use it, but I
> don''t have a mac. (the next reply will tell me that it does and I
will
> feel stupid)
>
> On May 28, 1:59 pm, mel ram
<mel...-IA9i2KS8NFBpEKysQ+xqfPpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > I''m using Aptana RadRails. It could be better but I like it.
Overall,
> > it''s like a text editor with file manager, rails console and
server
> > manager.
> >
> > On May 28, 1:47 pm, "James H."
<james.herd...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I''m using MacVim (and gVim when at work on my Windows
box) these
> > > days.  I like it quite a bit.  I used to use TextMate, but found
the
> > > expansive UI got in the way sometimes when on the road.  As I
grew
> > > with Vim, I found that I really missed its modal nature when I
went
> > > back to TextMate.  So, MacVim it is.
> >
> > > Hopefully TextMate 2 supports modal editing (via a plugin or
> > > otherwise).
> >
> > > James H.
> >
> > > On May 28, 3:21 pm, David Schwartz
<david...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that
an IDE provides. Searching
> > > > around the web reveals a number of options and I was
wondering
> whether
> > > > there were one or two that stood out above the others?
> >
> > > > TIA,
> > > > David
> >
>
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Ryan Bigg (Radar)

2008-May-29 01:55 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Yay. This is "Choose My Editor For Me" Thread #249423497!

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Xie Hanjian

2008-May-29 02:12 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

* David Schwartz <davids58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
[2008-05-28 12:21:30 -0700]:
> 
> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
Vim

Cheers,
Jan
> 
> TIA,
> David
> 
> > 
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Ramon Miguel M. Tayag

2008-May-29 02:56 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Vim!  Aptana''s nice, but it''s slow.  I started with it because
you
don''t have to learn those vim commands.. which took an extra 2 days of
learning, but it was cool.  I use Vim on Windows (if I must) and
Ubuntu.

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trail .

2008-May-29 03:01 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

When i was working on windows I use  RORED
But now i use Textmate on MacOS X

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> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
>
> TIA,
> David
>
> >
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Nathan Esquenazi

2008-May-29 07:08 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I like textmate but one thing I have to give aptana credit for is the 
unit test runner. The TestRunner is essentially this viewpane that 
allows you to visualize your tests as a bar. As the tests run the bar 
moves forward and stays green until a test fails and it turns red. You 
can see all failed tests and a link to the exact line that failed for 
every test. Re-running tests or running only a specific subset all 
happens in a very nice visual way.

TextMate with Git, RoR, Haml and Shoulda bundles makes development 
pretty awesome too but if I had to pick an IDE it would be Aptana 
because it also supports javascript, php, css, html, etc fully with 
syntax highlighting, auto completion, error markings and more.
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Ryan Bigg (Radar)

2008-May-29 07:13 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I''m sure TextMate could do all those things you listed.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Nathan Esquenazi <
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>
> I like textmate but one thing I have to give aptana credit for is the
> unit test runner. The TestRunner is essentially this viewpane that
> allows you to visualize your tests as a bar. As the tests run the bar
> moves forward and stays green until a test fails and it turns red. You
> can see all failed tests and a link to the exact line that failed for
> every test. Re-running tests or running only a specific subset all
> happens in a very nice visual way.
>
> TextMate with Git, RoR, Haml and Shoulda bundles makes development
> pretty awesome too but if I had to pick an IDE it would be Aptana
> because it also supports javascript, php, css, html, etc fully with
> syntax highlighting, auto completion, error markings and more.
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> >
>

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I usually work on my application from three different places... at
work, on a win box, I use ol''good Notepad++, tortoisesvn and cmd.exe.
At home, both on laptop and desktop (Kubuntu/Win boxes) I have Aptana
with Subclipse installed.
I think it''s just a matter of adapting yourself to the
circumstances ;-)

Regards,

Rey9999

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>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Nathan Esquenazi <
>
>
>
> rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I like textmate but one thing I have to give aptana credit for is the
> > unit test runner. The TestRunner is essentially this viewpane that
> > allows you to visualize your tests as a bar. As the tests run the bar
> > moves forward and stays green until a test fails and it turns red. You
> > can see all failed tests and a link to the exact line that failed for
> > every test. Re-running tests or running only a specific subset all
> > happens in a very nice visual way.
>
> > TextMate with Git, RoR, Haml and Shoulda bundles makes development
> > pretty awesome too but if I had to pick an IDE it would be Aptana
> > because it also supports javascript, php, css, html, etc fully with
> > syntax highlighting, auto completion, error markings and more.
> > --
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2008-May-29 10:20 UTC

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David Schwartz wrote:> I''m a newbie and I''d like the support that an IDE
provides. Searching
> around the web reveals a number of options and I was wondering whether
> there were one or two that stood out above the others?
> 
> TIA,
> David
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2008-May-29 10:26 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

another vote from me for

mac: textmate + terminal (we use this at work)

NetBeans if you want more features (or use Win or Linux)

RadRails or Aptana are another good option I think. I started with this 
a year ago and it was good enough)

under Linux there is KDevelop, which comes with some syntax highlighting 
and a few more options for RoR. But I never used it myself for any 
serious project, so I don''t know...
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On 29 May 2008, at 08:27, Rey9999 wrote:
>
> I usually work on my application from three different places... at
> work, on a win box, I use ol''good Notepad++, tortoisesvn and
cmd.exe.
> At home, both on laptop and desktop (Kubuntu/Win boxes) I have Aptana
> with Subclipse installed.
> I think it''s just a matter of adapting yourself to the
> circumstances ;-)
>It may have changed since I used it (which was a while back, although  
other colleagues have used it until quite recently) but aptana/ 
radrails just used to spaz out every now and again and spend 2 minutes  
''rebuilding the workspace'' whatever that means, sometimes
opening a
file would randomly take 30 seconds and things like that. Was ok when  
it actually worked though (but I like TextMate  a lot more), and  
subclipse is very nice.

Fred> Regards,
>
> Rey9999
>
> On 29 Mag, 09:13, "Ryan Bigg (Radar)"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> I''m sure TextMate could do all those things you listed.
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Nathan Esquenazi <
>>
>>
>>
>> rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I like textmate but one thing I have to give aptana credit for is  
>>> the
>>> unit test runner. The TestRunner is essentially this viewpane that
>>> allows you to visualize your tests as a bar. As the tests run the  
>>> bar
>>> moves forward and stays green until a test fails and it turns red.
>>> You
>>> can see all failed tests and a link to the exact line that failed  
>>> for
>>> every test. Re-running tests or running only a specific subset all
>>> happens in a very nice visual way.
>>
>>> TextMate with Git, RoR, Haml and Shoulda bundles makes development
>>> pretty awesome too but if I had to pick an IDE it would be Aptana
>>> because it also supports javascript, php, css, html, etc fully with
>>> syntax highlighting, auto completion, error markings and more.
>>> --
>>> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>>
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Nathan Esquenazi

2008-May-29 10:56 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Yea, Aptana still has those "rebuilding" moments last time I used it 
where it just takes a break and has you sitting there frustrated. The 
Git bundle for textmate is actually pretty amazing. I barely miss 
subclipse with the Git bundle in textmate + Gitnub.
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2008-May-29 12:35 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

On Windows, NetBean IDE 6.1 is working well.  Very rich set of
features.  While developing, allows me to focus on the code and not
have to deal so much with enviroment.

Jim

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2008-May-29 13:46 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

In my particular setup I work directly on a linux development server.
Although, I''ve used the same setup when working locally.

Vim + Screen = The best setup I have ever had.

I''ve used lots of IDE''s from Visual Studio to Eclipse to
Netbeans.
I''ve also used enhanced text editors like Jedit, TextPad, and
UltraEdit. They are pretty good, but I found that I''ve developed
faster using console based apps.

If you do plan to use vim, I would highly recommend memorizing and
learning as many shortcuts as you can. The shortcuts are what really
make vim and screen shine.

The best thing about screen is if you close your ssh connection, you
can open it back up again later with all your files open and programs
still running. Very useful if you use switch computers often.

Regards,

Roel
(PS. Mouse sucks, keyboard rocks!)

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Clever Neologism

2008-May-29 14:11 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Aptana/RadRails, emacs, sed/grep for mass renaming/refactoring/
searching, and even nano here and there when I want to make quick
changes.  This is on Gentoo, btw.

I use Aptana because I really like it, despite the fact that it still
has that "I''m going to wait 10 seconds before opening your file
for
you" problem.  But I am also constantly opening files in tons of
command-line routines as well.  I could get by with just command line
tools, though, without much problem.  I have a very scatter-brained
(in terms of with what and where I actually do the work) approach to
development. ;)

However, a necessity for me is FireBug... nothing in the past year has
made me a more productive coder and problem solver than that tool, and
it pretty much approaches an IDE in it''s complexity and power.  You
can pretty much develop your template''s skeletons directly in the web
browser, and see exactly what you will get.  Not to mention that on-
the-fly javascript/CSS/XHTML editing and inspection is about the only
way to diagnose problems effectively in a modern heavily AJAXed and
CSSed site.  I don''t know what I would do without it now.

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it
> where it just takes a break and has you sitting there frustrated. The
> Git bundle for textmate is actually pretty amazing. I barely miss
> subclipse with the Git bundle in textmate + Gitnub.
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Shandy Nantz

2008-May-29 14:11 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I''m using Aptana on Windows I have to say that it lacks a lot - A LOT.
I
have two rather big controllers that whenever I go to save it freezes up 
for about a solid minute - minute and half, the editing envirnment often 
gets confused about how code should line up. Also, I closed the 
"Outline" side bar one day and it took me forever to find the 
appropriate drop down to get it re-loaded. And lastely, I think - I''m 
not sure - that Aptana is a memory hog.

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Alfredo

2008-May-29 23:36 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

If you''re starting with rails the autocomplete and documentation
features from netbeans will help a LOT, showing the order of the
paramteres for the view helper methods goes a loong way, also netbeans
debugging is really helpful and simple.

That said, I use textmate and rarely use netbeans, netbeans is very
very solid though, and the price is right, free :)


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it
> where it just takes a break and has you sitting there frustrated. The
> Git bundle for textmate is actually pretty amazing. I barely miss
> subclipse with the Git bundle in textmate + Gitnub.
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David Schwartz

2008-Jun-02 19:12 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

So, I notice that no one''s mentioned XCode as an editor. Not up to the
task?

David


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Fredrik

2008-Jun-02 19:55 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Aptana Studio, but I check out netbeans every so often. Both suck up a
lot of resources on your box. Btw, I used to see those freeze ups in
Aptana, but I don''t any more now when I think about it. We work over
NFS too, so that made it even worse I think.

For fun I just started up aptana, netbeans, and TextMate and let them
idle for 5 minutes.

Netbeans: 320MB
Aptana: 228MB
TextMate: 27MB

I''ve seen netbeans at 700+ MB. That''s just insane and the
number one
reason i don''t use it much. I like it otherwise. Both of those are
nice.

Currently giving textmate a trial again. With a cheat sheet for common
tasks until I can remember them, I really like it. It''s nice and light
and might very well be what I''ll use down the road once I get the hang
of it. As far as calling it the official editor. I''m partial to that
since it only runs on a Mac but I''ve seen that word circle around with
it a lot.

Fredrik

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Pardee, Roy

2008-Jun-03 00:37 UTC

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I like ''e'' on windows--it''s a textmate clone. 

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I''m using Aptana on Windows I have to say that it lacks a lot - A LOT.
I
have two rather big controllers that whenever I go to save it freezes up
for about a solid minute - minute and half, the editing envirnment often
gets confused about how code should line up. Also, I closed the
"Outline" side bar one day and it took me forever to find the
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Erno Mononen

2008-Jun-13 14:35 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

On 02/06/2008, Fredrik
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wrote:>
>  Aptana Studio, but I check out netbeans every so often. Both suck up a
>  lot of resources on your box. Btw, I used to see those freeze ups in
>  Aptana, but I don''t any more now when I think about it. We work
over
>  NFS too, so that made it even worse I think.
>
>  For fun I just started up aptana, netbeans, and TextMate and let them
>  idle for 5 minutes.
>
>  Netbeans: 320MB
It is probably worth noting that by default NetBeans will use at
maximum 1/4th of the available RAM, if that seems like too much you
can always adjust it by specifying the -Xmx switch in the [netbeans
installation dir]/etc/netbeans.conf file. Just add e.g. "-J-Xmx384m"
to the netbeans_default_options line (that would set the max heap size
to 384m). More details at
http://performance.netbeans.org/howto/jvmswitches/index.html.

Cheers,
Erno

>  Aptana: 228MB
>  TextMate: 27MB
>
>  I''ve seen netbeans at 700+ MB. That''s just insane and
the number one
>  reason i don''t use it much. I like it otherwise. Both of those
are
>  nice.
>
>  Currently giving textmate a trial again. With a cheat sheet for common
>  tasks until I can remember them, I really like it. It''s nice and
light
>  and might very well be what I''ll use down the road once I get the
hang
>  of it. As far as calling it the official editor. I''m partial to
that
>  since it only runs on a Mac but I''ve seen that word circle around
with
>  it a lot.
>
>
>  Fredrik
>
>
>  >
>
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Max Williams

2008-Jun-13 15:05 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I used to use radrails in eclipse, then switched to netbeans when it got 
the fast debugging for rails (which was really good).  Now though i do 
everything in linux and don''t bother with IDEs at all - i just use a 
simple text editor and the command line, which i think is better, as 
well as forcing you to have a better understanding of what you''re
doing.

If you''re on mac, as many have said, textmate is the
professional''s
choice.
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César

2008-Jun-13 15:22 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

I use Emacs on Linux to write Rails source code. Emacs is very good.
You only need write code and know how do this, it''s all. Althougth
NetBeans is maybe a good IDE, it need more hardware(memory and micro)
than Emacs. I prefer a editor how Emacs and  not an IDE how NetBeans
or Eclipse.

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Marcelo de Moraes Serpa

2008-Jun-14 00:25 UTC

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Re: Which free RoR IDE would you recommend?

Emacs is great, but the learning curve is too steep, you need to graduate in
it before reaching a viable state of production.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM, César
<cesare.diaz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> I use Emacs on Linux to write Rails source code. Emacs is very good.
> You only need write code and know how do this, it''s all. Althougth
> NetBeans is maybe a good IDE, it need more hardware(memory and micro)
> than Emacs. I prefer a editor how Emacs and  not an IDE how NetBeans
> or Eclipse.
>
> Cesar
>
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> >
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2008-Jun-14 00:49 UTC

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
<celoserpa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> Emacs is great, but the learning curve is too steep, you need to graduate
in
> it before reaching a viable state of production.
1-2 days is about the worst of it.  Then over the next two weeks or so
you learn more of the obscure stuff.  Inside of a month you realize
you''re over the hump and more productive than ever before. 
It''s well
worth the effort in my opinion.  I even use Emacs on my Mac.

Add this:

http://dima-exe.ru/rails-on-emacs

and this:

http://ecb.sourceforge.net/

and you''ve got yourself a complete Rails IDE that runs on any OS.


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