Rails - Apr 2008 - How to reference view helpers from another controller?

Hi,

I''ve googled around looking for answers to this simple question, with
little success.

How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting everything into
the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
just about everything ends up there, eventually.

Any help much appreciated!

-j
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J Y wrote:
> How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
> putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
> like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
> Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting everything
into
> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
Put it in app-helper.

If you got clutter, make certain you move as much as you can to the Models!

But a big issue with Rails is you can''t plug-and-play controllers with
their
partials. If a partial gets shared into another controller''s view -
boom - the
shared code has to go up that ol'' stairway to heaven.

True MVC ain''t like that!

-- 
   Phlip


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> I''d like to keep the helper function in
> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting everything
into
> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
>
>
Create a module in the lib dir, require that module in your Manufacturers
and Products helpers and then include the module in those helpers.

e.g.  create lib/generic_helper_methods.rb
which may look like:

module GenericHelperMethods
  def some_helper_method
  end
end

now in products_helper.rb

requre "generic_helper_methods"

module ProductsHelper
  include GenericHelperMethods
  # now some_helper_method is available
end



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Gah, that''s what I was afraid of...  What a flaw...  perhaps
there''s
some hope of getting this changed in v3?

On Apr 24, 9:56 pm, Phlip
<phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> J Y wrote:
> > How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
> > putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
> > like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
> > Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
> > products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting
everything into
> > the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
> > just about everything ends up there, eventually.
>
> Put it in app-helper.
>
> If you got clutter, make certain you move as much as you can to the Models!
>
> But a big issue with Rails is you can''t plug-and-play controllers
with their
> partials. If a partial gets shared into another controller''s view
- boom - the
> shared code has to go up that ol'' stairway to heaven.
>
> True MVC ain''t like that!
>
> --
>    Phlip
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J Y wrote:
> Gah, that''s what I was afraid of...  What a flaw...  perhaps
there''s
> some hope of getting this changed in v3?
If you mean Rails 2, no, because as Andrew Stone pointed out you still have the 
full power of Ruby''s native class systems at your fingertip.

I would still go with pushing things into Models first, though...

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Hi

On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 19:04 -0700, J Y wrote:
> Gah, that''s what I was afraid of...  What a flaw...  perhaps
there''s
> some hope of getting this changed in v3?
> 
> On Apr 24, 9:56 pm, Phlip
<phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > J Y wrote:
> > > How do I go about using a view helper from another controller,
without
> > > putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I
would
> > > like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am
in a
> > > Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function
in
> > > products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting
everything into
> > > the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered,
and
> > > just about everything ends up there, eventually.
> >
> > Put it in app-helper.
> >
> > If you got clutter, make certain you move as much as you can to the
Models!
> >
> > But a big issue with Rails is you can''t plug-and-play
controllers with their
> > partials. If a partial gets shared into another controller''s
view - boom - the
> > shared code has to go up that ol'' stairway to heaven.
> >
> > True MVC ain''t like that!
----
you''re obviously not tracking what Phlip is saying here.

Rails v3 is not going to abandon MVC

You need to figure out which code is Model specific and which is
universal and it becomes obvious where the code goes.

It''s been working well for Rails developers and it''s not gonna
change.

Craig


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Hi --

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, J Y wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I''ve googled around looking for answers to this simple question,
with
> little success.
>
> How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
> putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
> like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
> Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting everything
into
> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
I''m not sure what''s not working exactly, which probably means
I''m
misunderstanding the setup. Is this correct?

   The action is in the manufacturer controller.
   The view template is in views/manufacturer.
   The view renders a partial from views/products.
   That partial calls a method from products_helper.rb.

I''d expect that to work fine. Am I describing it wrongly?


David

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Hi --

I should add: make sure that you''ve got:

   helpers :all

in application.rb. It should be there by default in a Rails 2.0 app.


David

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, David A. Black wrote:
>
> Hi --
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, J Y wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I''ve googled around looking for answers to this simple
question, with
>> little success.
>>
>> How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
>> putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
>> like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
>> Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
>> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting
everything into
>> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
>> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
>
> I''m not sure what''s not working exactly, which probably
means I''m
> misunderstanding the setup. Is this correct?
>
>   The action is in the manufacturer controller.
>   The view template is in views/manufacturer.
>   The view renders a partial from views/products.
>   That partial calls a method from products_helper.rb.
>
> I''d expect that to work fine. Am I describing it wrongly?
>
>
> David
>
> -- 
> Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light:
>   INTRO TO RAILS         June 9-12            Berlin
>   ADVANCING WITH RAILS   June 16-19           Berlin
>   INTRO TO RAILS         June 24-27           London (Skills Matter)
> See http://www.rubypal.com for details and updates!
>
> >
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Since you can use the helper macro in your controller (there from the
early days), neither is Rails, Philp.
>
> True MVC ain''t like that!
>
> --
>    Phlip
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I see...  Sorry for my ignorance - I wasn''t familiar with the
''helper''
keyword, although I had investigated ''include'' and
''require''.  This is
exactly what I needed to know.  Thanks!

On Apr 24, 10:29 pm, "David A. Black"
<dbl...-0o/XNnkTkwhBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi --
>
> I should add: make sure that you''ve got:
>
>    helpers :all
>
> in application.rb. It should be there by default in a Rails 2.0 app.
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, David A. Black wrote:
>
> > Hi --
>
> > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, J Y wrote:
>
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I''ve googled around looking for answers to this simple
question, with
> >> little success.
>
> >> How do I go about using a view helper from another controller,
without
> >> putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I
would
> >> like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am
in a
> >> Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function
in
> >> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting
everything into
> >> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
> >> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
>
> > I''m not sure what''s not working exactly, which
probably means I''m
> > misunderstanding the setup. Is this correct?
>
> >   The action is in the manufacturer controller.
> >   The view template is in views/manufacturer.
> >   The view renders a partial from views/products.
> >   That partial calls a method from products_helper.rb.
>
> > I''d expect that to work fine. Am I describing it wrongly?
>
> > David
>
> > --
> > Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light:
> >   INTRO TO RAILS         June 9-12            Berlin
> >   ADVANCING WITH RAILS   June 16-19           Berlin
> >   INTRO TO RAILS         June 24-27           London (Skills Matter)
> > Seehttp://www.rubypal.comfor details and updates!
>
> --
> Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light:
>    INTRO TO RAILS         June 9-12            Berlin
>    ADVANCING WITH RAILS   June 16-19           Berlin
>    INTRO TO RAILS         June 24-27           London (Skills Matter)
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Hi --

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Phlip wrote:
>
> J Y wrote:
>
>> How do I go about using a view helper from another controller, without
>> putting the helper into application_helper.rb?  For example, I would
>> like to render a partial from the Products controller, when I am in a
>> Manufacturer view.  I''d like to keep the helper function in
>> products_helper, but haven''t found a way to.  Putting
everything into
>> the application helper just seems to make it really cluttered, and
>> just about everything ends up there, eventually.
>
> Put it in app-helper.
>
> If you got clutter, make certain you move as much as you can to the Models!
>
> But a big issue with Rails is you can''t plug-and-play controllers
with their
> partials. If a partial gets shared into another controller''s view
- boom - the
> shared code has to go up that ol'' stairway to heaven.
I think the "helper" method solved J Y''s problem, but it
sounds like
you''re talking about a different limitation, involving partials.
I''m
afraid I can''t quite work out what you mean, though (in spite of my
being a LZ fan of long standing :-) What exactly is it you can''t do,
as between a controller and partials in another view directory?


David


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