Hi, Is it possible to expire cache items (page, action, or fragment) from within a model? I know that sweepers let you trigger cache expiration on model changes, but they have to be activated in the controller. I want to cache some things that can be potentially modified from many different controllers. It seems like it would be too easy to forget to activate the sweeper from some controller and then end up with a stale cache. Expiring things by using just a plain after_save hook in the model seems like it would be much safer to me, but I haven''t found a way to get to the expire_ calls from within a model. Is this possible? Or am I overlooking a reason why things shouldn''t be done this way? Thanks! Curtis H. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I found a way to do what I''m wanting, but it does seem a little awkward. From within the after_save hook on the model, I do this: ActionController::Base.fragment_cache_store.delete(name, nil) Is there anything wrong with this approach? I don''t see it documented anywhere, but it seems to work just fine. Thanks! Curtis H. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> ActionController::Base.fragment_cache_store.delete(name, nil) > Is there anything wrong with this approach?Yes, many things. You''re breaking MVC priciples that will lead to ugly ugly results down the road. USE SWEEPERS if you think your going to forget them some were stick them all in application_controller in a before filter on everything until you familiarize your self with the code base. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Keynan Pratt wrote:>> ActionController::Base.fragment_cache_store.delete(name, nil) >> Is there anything wrong with this approach? > > Yes, many things. You''re breaking MVC priciples that will lead to ugly > ugly results down the road. > > USE SWEEPERS > > if you think your going to forget them some were stick them all in > application_controller in a before filter on everything until you > familiarize your self with the code base.I understand that it is breaking MVC a bit, but I''m still having trouble seeing why it''s so bad. It''s probably just my inexperience in this particular area, but could you give me a little bit more concrete example of why putting it in the model leads to ugly results? Thanks for the tip on using the sweeper on the application controller. I hadn''t thought of that. But I guess I don''t really see how it''s that different from putting it right in the model. I mean, it will run every time, just as if it were in the model (or a regular observer on the model). It doesn''t seem in keeping with DRY to have to remember to put a call to the sweeper on every new controller that could possibly affect the model that causes my fragments to become stale. Sorry for all these questions, but I really do want to understand the reasoning behind this approach. Thanks! Curtis H. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Its the controllers Job to handle business logic. The model should only be responsible for data going to and from the database. No this doesn''t violate DRY principles. You''re not duplicating the code for clearing the cache and preferably not duplicating the code that initializes the sweeper. You''re only duplicating a before filter because you''re giving it different actions to act before. I am curious however why your model is getting modified by so many controllers? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
To be clear in production code won''t be reloaded so you can just do =======================SomeSweeper.instance class ApplicationController end =======================-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Keynan Pratt wrote:> Its the controllers Job to handle business logic. The model should only > be responsible for data going to and from the database. > > No this doesn''t violate DRY principles. You''re not duplicating the code > for clearing the cache and preferably not duplicating the code that > initializes the sweeper. You''re only duplicating a before filter because > you''re giving it different actions to act before. > > I am curious however why your model is getting modified by so many > controllers?Well, right now it''s only being modified by two controllers. One for normal editing of items and one for a bulk import of items. But in the future, we want to add one for bulk editing existing items, or we might want to expand the functionality of another controller to modify the items as a side effect of another operation. But if the point is that every time the model changes, I know that this particular cache needs to be expired, why not define that behavior at a higher level? Even putting it at the application controller level doesn''t cover the case of modifying something at the console or modifying objects during a migration. Anyway, I think attaching the sweeper to the application controller will do the trick for me for now. Thanks! Curtis H. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 24, 9:19 pm, Keynan Pratt <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Its the controllers Job to handle business logic. The model should only > be responsible for data going to and from the database.is that strictly correct? Tonypm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
tonypm wrote:> On Jan 24, 9:19 pm, Keynan Pratt <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> > wrote: >> Its the controllers Job to handle business logic. The model should only >> be responsible for data going to and from the database. > > > is that strictly correct? > > > TonypmI think the correct way is keeping the business logic in the model and using the controllers to interact with the views/users. Also it is strongly advised to move any ruby code from the views into helpers or controllers. It will help you DRY things up and help designers do their job as well. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---