Rails - Jan 2008 - Rails plugins that use other plugins - why is does this seem impossible?

OK, probably the most frustrated I''ve ever been with Rails. If I
don''t
figure this out, I''m going to, um... try again tomorrow.

I''m simply trying to create a plugin. I did the ./script/generate
plugin MY_NEW_PLUGIN and wha-hoo great! Well, not really...

This plugin uses other plugins. For example, acts_as_list,
acts_as_money etc.. How the heck to I get these plugins loaded and
ready to be used? I''ve put them here:

main-app/vendor/plugins/MY_NEW_PLUGIN/vendor/plugins/

I''ve added all of their paths and lib paths to the config.load_paths
variable, I''ve tried loading (require and load) their init.rb files.
And no matter what, it''s pretty obvious that the paths aren''t
setup
correctly. I''ve even tried

$: << ''path/to/acts_as_list''
$: << ''path/to/acts_as_list/lib''

I''d like to be able to specify additional load_paths in init.rb and
then use config.plugins - seems logical.?

Ahhhhhhoar!!!
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perhaps just a require ''acts_as_list'' with a rescue with an
error message
will do it, probably. There''s most likely a better way to go about it,
and
why not ask the #rubyonrails irc channel in irc.freenode.net? Their
responses can be more instantaneous than here most times.

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Hi Ryan,

I tried irc, which is totally foreign to me. What is nickserv? Am I
supposed to signup for membership?

On Jan 14, 10:59 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> perhaps just a require ''acts_as_list'' with a rescue with
an error message
> will do it, probably.
Well, my plugin, will come with acts_as_list. So I just want to be
able to load it correctly. When my plugins init.rb file is loaded, I''m
pretty sure that $LOAD_PATH is already set. So using config.load_paths
doesn''t seem to do anything. And the same with config.plugin_paths.
> There''s most likely a better way to go about it, and
> why not ask the #rubyonrails irc channel in irc.freenode.net? Their
> responses can be more instantaneous than here most times.
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Oh yeah I should''ve mentioned. You have to have a registered name
before you
go into the channel so that random people can''t spam it. Just type /msg
nickserv help register and follow the instructions.

On Jan 15, 2008 2:45 PM, goodieboy
<goodieBoy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I tried irc, which is totally foreign to me. What is nickserv? Am I
> supposed to signup for membership?
>
> On Jan 14, 10:59 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > perhaps just a require ''acts_as_list'' with a rescue
with an error
> message
> > will do it, probably.
>
> Well, my plugin, will come with acts_as_list. So I just want to be
> able to load it correctly. When my plugins init.rb file is loaded,
I''m
> pretty sure that $LOAD_PATH is already set. So using config.load_paths
> doesn''t seem to do anything. And the same with
config.plugin_paths.
>
> > There''s most likely a better way to go about it, and
> > why not ask the #rubyonrails irc channel in irc.freenode.net? Their
> > responses can be more instantaneous than here most times.
> >
>

-- 
Ryan Bigg
http://www.frozenplague.net
Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.

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Cool, thank you :)

On Jan 14, 11:40 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Oh yeah I should''ve mentioned. You have to have a registered name
before you
> go into the channel so that random people can''t spam it. Just type
/msg
> nickserv help register and follow the instructions.
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 2:45 PM, goodieboy
<goodie...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Ryan,
>
> > I tried irc, which is totally foreign to me. What is nickserv? Am I
> > supposed to signup for membership?
>
> > On Jan 14, 10:59 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > perhaps just a require ''acts_as_list'' with a
rescue with an error
> > message
> > > will do it, probably.
>
> > Well, my plugin, will come with acts_as_list. So I just want to be
> > able to load it correctly. When my plugins init.rb file is loaded,
I''m
> > pretty sure that $LOAD_PATH is already set. So using config.load_paths
> > doesn''t seem to do anything. And the same with
config.plugin_paths.
>
> > > There''s most likely a better way to go about it, and
> > > why not ask the #rubyonrails irc channel in irc.freenode.net?
Their
> > > responses can be more instantaneous than here most times.
>
> --
> Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net
> Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.
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Is this rails 1.2 or rails 2.0? Quite a bit changed about plugin  
loading in between.

Fred
On 15 Jan 2008, at 03:14, goodieboy wrote:
>
> OK, probably the most frustrated I''ve ever been with Rails. If I
don''t
> figure this out, I''m going to, um... try again tomorrow.
>
> I''m simply trying to create a plugin. I did the ./script/generate
> plugin MY_NEW_PLUGIN and wha-hoo great! Well, not really...
>
> This plugin uses other plugins. For example, acts_as_list,
> acts_as_money etc.. How the heck to I get these plugins loaded and
> ready to be used? I''ve put them here:
>
> main-app/vendor/plugins/MY_NEW_PLUGIN/vendor/plugins/
>
> I''ve added all of their paths and lib paths to the
config.load_paths
> variable, I''ve tried loading (require and load) their init.rb
files.
> And no matter what, it''s pretty obvious that the paths
aren''t setup
> correctly. I''ve even tried
>
> $: << ''path/to/acts_as_list''
> $: << ''path/to/acts_as_list/lib''
>
> I''d like to be able to specify additional load_paths in init.rb
and
> then use config.plugins - seems logical.?
>
> Ahhhhhhoar!!!
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Rails 2.0.2

I found a way to make it all work - not the correct, Rails way though.
It''s not what I would have expected. I thought I could do everything I
needed inside of the init.rb file. But from the way it seems, at that
point it''s too late to add to the $LOAD_PATH so adding plugins to
config.plugins inside of init.rb doesn''t work. Or am I wrong? I tried
many different things.

I''ll come clean now; this plugin is really another Rails app. it has
controllers, models, views, routes etc.. I wanted to be able to reuse
this inside of client apps. And maintain only one code base for the
"plugin" (updatable via svn etc.) I wanted it to work like Django apps
do. And I achieved a lot of that by initializing my plugin inside of
the Rails::Initialize.run block:

Rails::Initialize.run do |config|
  MySuperPluginThatsReallyAnApp::init(config)
end

Basically, I add a bunch of paths (load_paths and load_once_paths),
include my plugins etc.. Now I can use that one line in my main apps''
environment.rb file, and without doing anything have a full blown app
running without doing any extra coding. And thanks to the load paths,
I can override any view, model etc.. just by creating the file in the
app that''s using the "plugin". Very handy. I have to manually
copy
routes, and public folder items, but that''s OK. I want to be able to
override those aspects anyway.

The big downside is that I can''t do cool, builtin things with Rake,
and testing. So I''m going to keep trying to get this to work the
correct, Rails 2.0 plugin way.

Feedback anyone?

On Jan 15, 3:48 am, Frederick Cheung
<frederick.che...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Is this rails 1.2 or rails 2.0? Quite a bit changed about plugin
> loading in between.
>
> Fred
> On 15 Jan 2008, at 03:14, goodieboy wrote:
>
>
>
> > OK, probably the most frustrated I''ve ever been with Rails.
If I don''t
> > figure this out, I''m going to, um... try again tomorrow.
>
> > I''m simply trying to create a plugin. I did the
./script/generate
> > plugin MY_NEW_PLUGIN and wha-hoo great! Well, not really...
>
> > This plugin uses other plugins. For example, acts_as_list,
> > acts_as_money etc.. How the heck to I get these plugins loaded and
> > ready to be used? I''ve put them here:
>
> > main-app/vendor/plugins/MY_NEW_PLUGIN/vendor/plugins/
>
> > I''ve added all of their paths and lib paths to the
config.load_paths
> > variable, I''ve tried loading (require and load) their init.rb
files.
> > And no matter what, it''s pretty obvious that the paths
aren''t setup
> > correctly. I''ve even tried
>
> > $: << ''path/to/acts_as_list''
> > $: << ''path/to/acts_as_list/lib''
>
> > I''d like to be able to specify additional load_paths in
init.rb and
> > then use config.plugins - seems logical.?
>
> > Ahhhhhhoar!!!
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