Okay, so I have a laptop now, but I''ve been doing most of my RoR development on my home computer system. Both are Windows XP. Now, I have this crazy idea about using both to develop the same program (*gasp*). Although I''ve been doing programming for a few years, I have NO idea how to do this. I''m using Aptana RadRails right now... is there perhaps something built-in that I can use? I understand that what I''m trying to do is called CVS maybe? Any help? ^_^ Thanks!! -Ryan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Read up on source control. You have a few options, but avoid CVS if you can. :) Subversion is the easiest one to setup and get going. http://subversion.tigris.org/ A lot of cheap web hosts (e.g., Dreamhost) offer Subversion support with their web packages. So basically you''d sync the source to your web account then pull it down on the other computer, push your changes back to the server, pull them down on the other computer, rinse repeat. :) Wikipedia probably has a good article on it and there''s a book about Subversion on their website that''s free. --Jeremy On Jan 14, 2008 3:08 PM, kopf1988 <kopf1988-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Okay, so I have a laptop now, but I''ve been doing most of my RoR > development on my home computer system. Both are Windows XP. Now, I > have this crazy idea about using both to develop the same program > (*gasp*). Although I''ve been doing programming for a few years, I have > NO idea how to do this. I''m using Aptana RadRails right now... is > there perhaps something built-in that I can use? I understand that > what I''m trying to do is called CVS maybe? Any help? ^_^ Thanks!! > > -Ryan > > >-- http://www.jeremymcanally.com/ My books: Ruby in Practice http://www.manning.com/mcanally/ My free Ruby e-book http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/ My blogs: http://www.mrneighborly.com/ http://www.rubyinpractice.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 14, 2008 9:08 PM, kopf1988 <kopf1988-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> there perhaps something built-in that I can use? I understand that > what I''m trying to do is called CVS maybe? Any help? ^_^ Thanks!!not sure what you''ll find built in, but have a look at subversion. It''s more or less the standard in the rails community, and I understand TortoiseSVN is a very good windows client (though I''ve never tried it out, since I''m on another platform). - Martin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Em Seg 14 Jan 2008, kopf1988 escreveu:> Okay, so I have a laptop now, but I''ve been doing most of my RoR > development on my home computer system. Both are Windows XP. Now, I > have this crazy idea about using both to develop the same program > (*gasp*). Although I''ve been doing programming for a few years, I have > NO idea how to do this. I''m using Aptana RadRails right now... is > there perhaps something built-in that I can use? I understand that > what I''m trying to do is called CVS maybe? Any help? ^_^ Thanks!! >Have a look at git. Google for it. For Rails, you could also use Capistrano. Best regards, Davi Vidal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Yup, as everyone else pretty much said: SVN or Git. Pretty much the standard and not so crazy an idea after all :-) On Jan 14, 10:08 am, kopf1988 <kopf1...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Okay, so I have a laptop now, but I''ve been doing most of my RoR > development on my home computer system. Both are Windows XP. Now, I > have this crazy idea about using both to develop the same program > (*gasp*). Although I''ve been doing programming for a few years, I have > NO idea how to do this. I''m using Aptana RadRails right now... is > there perhaps something built-in that I can use? I understand that > what I''m trying to do is called CVS maybe? Any help? ^_^ Thanks!! > > -Ryan--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
TortoiseSVN is the way to go with Windows -- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? For example, I don''t care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the files and update the ones that have been edited. Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard). ^_^ -Ryan On Jan 14, 4:57 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> TortoiseSVN is the way to go with Windows > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Once you''ve got svn installed on WinXP, and once you''ve got Tortoise SVN installed on WinXP, and once you figure out the url for the svn repository on your server, you then can do what you said. You might prefer to skip the windows gui (Tortoise) and write a command line call svn in a .cmd file. You can then set up an icon to run the command .cmd scripts, one to get and one to upload. And then just click on them as needed. But this sounds like more trouble than using the GUI for Tortoise. Just remember that the ''update'' icon in Tortoise means download, and ''commit'' icon means upload to the server. The other gotcha is that you first set up a directory with your stuff, and then put it into the repository. Then you check it out, but to a different directory. Then that second directory is your working directory and the first directory is an orphan, never to be touched again. Why they do this, I don''t know. A completely different approach would use WinSCP and/or ftp to upload and download to the directory structure on your server. f --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? For example, I don''t > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > files and update the ones that have been edited. >Ryan - this is all I use subversion for! It seems really hard at first, but once you have set up your repositroy (preferably online, with your web hosts) all you do is checkout a version to each computer. After doing some updates you ''commit'' these back to the central online subversion repository. A simple ''update'' command will then update all the other copies to take account of the changes. I don''t use any of the stuff about rolling back and branches, but figure that I might use it in the future. DAZ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 15 Jan 2008, at 05:02, kopf1988 wrote:> > Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. > > But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? For example, I don''t > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > files and update the ones that have been edited. > > Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those > extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard).Once you used source control you''ll never want to go back. Have you never been in situations along the lines off ''Damn, this was working fine yesterday, what have I changed?'', or scrummaged through backups to find the code from 6 months ago which has something you need (or because someone running an older version has found a problem etc..) ? At a basically level with subversion you can just do svn commmit to push changes to the repository and svn update to pull them down. There are a number of places which will host your repository (normally for a fee, but it''s not an awful lot) which means you don''t have to setup the server yourself it''s accessible from anywhere in the world and (most importantly as far as I''m concerned) your data is safe in a datacenter, on properly backed up hardware where you don''t have to worry about a toddler feeding its porridge through the vents on the computer hosting your repository. Fred --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi guys I use NetBeans for Ruby as my IDE and it integrates really well with SVN - have Tortoise installed but really only use it when I have to go out into PHP land. NetBeans has a very cool feature once it knows about your repository - you can turn on the diff sidebar and it shows you in the margins where you have made changes, when you mouse over the marks it tells you want the changes were and allows you to undo just that change, rather than the whole file. If you''re using one of the Eclipse based IDE''s it''s probably got very similar functionality. HTH On Jan 15, 9:56 am, Frederick Cheung <frederick.che...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 15 Jan 2008, at 05:02, kopf1988 wrote: > > > > > Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. > > > But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? For example, I don''t > > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > > files and update the ones that have been edited. > > > Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those > > extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard). > > Once you used source control you''ll never want to go back. Have you > never been in situations along the lines off ''Damn, this was working > fine yesterday, what have I changed?'', or scrummaged through backups > to find the code from 6 months ago which has something you need (or > because someone running an older version has found a problem etc..) ? > > At a basically level with subversion you can just do svn commmit to > push changes to the repository and svn update to pull them down. > There are a number of places which will host your repository (normally > for a fee, but it''s not an awful lot) which means you don''t have to > setup the server yourself it''s accessible from anywhere in the world > and (most importantly as far as I''m concerned) your data is safe in a > datacenter, on properly backed up hardware where you don''t have to > worry about a toddler feeding its porridge through the vents on the > computer hosting your repository. > > Fred--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I would definetely use SVN with Tortoise. But if you just want the files synchronized between desktop and laptop, you can always use some sync utility, like GoodSync... Cheers, Sazima On Jan 15, 3:02 am, kopf1988 <kopf1...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. > > But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? For example, I don''t > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > files and update the ones that have been edited. > > Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those > extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard). > > ^_^ > > -Ryan > > On Jan 14, 4:57 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > TortoiseSVN is the way to go with Windows > > > -- > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 1/14/08, kopf1988 <kopf1988-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. > > But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple?Don''t let the Subversion book discourage you. In a normal day you would only use a few of those commands and the online book is always there to help you when you need one of the more exotic commands. Knowing every single Subversion command or command line option is not required to use Subversion.> For example, I don''t > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > files and update the ones that have been edited. > > Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those > extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard).There are indeed features in Subverion and Capastrano that you will not need, but that''s true with most anything. Dismissing the applications themselves simply because of those extra features is very poor logic in my opinion. Learning Subversion is not a waste of time. I almost want ask who _isn''t_ using it by now? And running `cap deploy` to redeploy any one of my Rails apps, instantly, on a whim, seems about as simple as it gets. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily (although I''ve heard of some free places). Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the two computers are never on the same network. They use two differnt ISPs, always. Pretend my laptop is in florida while my home computer is in california. (or Sydney and New York, lol). I''ve heard of WinSCP... might that work just to keep the folders synchronized? I think the subversion idea is almost giving me a headache... it took me weeks just to get GoDaddy and RoR to work, lol. I don''t want to have to learn something new so soon after that headache. -Ryan On Jan 15, 11:33 am, "Greg Donald" <gdon...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 1/14/08, kopf1988 <kopf1...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Right... subversion, I''ve read about it. > > > But is there a solution that''s... umm... simple? > > Don''t let the Subversion book discourage you. In a normal day you > would only use a few of those commands and the online book is always > there to help you when you need one of the more exotic commands. > Knowing every single Subversion command or command line option is not > required to use Subversion. > > > For example, I don''t > > care much about being able to revert to previous versions and things > > like that. I just want to change it on one system and be able to get > > the changes on the new system. Something like when I''m done at home I > > can click "Update Server" or use a command line prompt like "update > > server /rails/program/path/" and have the files uploaded. Then on my > > laptop I want to click or type "Update Computer" to download all the > > files and update the ones that have been edited. > > > Has anyone done something this simple for me yet? I don''t want those > > extra features if I''m not going to be using them (k.i.s.s. standard). > > There are indeed features in Subverion and Capastrano that you will > not need, but that''s true with most anything. Dismissing the > applications themselves simply because of those extra features is very > poor logic in my opinion. > > Learning Subversion is not a waste of time. I almost want ask who > _isn''t_ using it by now? And running `cap deploy` to redeploy any one > of my Rails apps, instantly, on a whim, seems about as simple as it > gets. > > -- > Greg Donaldhttp://destiney.com/--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:07 PM, kopf1988 wrote:> > Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > (although I''ve heard of some free places). > > Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the > two computers are never on the same network. They use two differnt > ISPs, always. Pretend my laptop is in florida while my home computer > is in california. (or Sydney and New York, lol). > > I''ve heard of WinSCP... might that work just to keep the folders > synchronized? I think the subversion idea is almost giving me a > headache... it took me weeks just to get GoDaddy and RoR to work, lol. > I don''t want to have to learn something new so soon after that > headache. > > -Ryan >Another possibility, though not as good as source control, is a simple ftp server. Run it on your desktop then get or put as the case may be. One question, though: Do you ever expect to have changes on one that you don''t have on the other? If you will need to do any type of merging, you really need to figure out a way to use source control. I''d recommend git or mercurial. They are both distributed source control managers and you can push/pull from your notebook to your desktop. Merging is easy. It''s all pretty fast. And it''s not that hard to learn. Google for them. Peace, Phillip --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 15, 2008 10:07 AM, kopf1988 <kopf1988-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > (although I''ve heard of some free places).Apropos of which, this was just recommended to me: <http://www.beanstalkapp.com/> The price is right (free for <4 users), so it may be worth a look.> Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the > two computers are never on the same network.Irrelevant. I agree with the recommendation to just go ahead and learn subversion, but if you really can''t deal with it, there''s always carrying around a USB drive with your project :-) FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Well, that''s just the thing... I''m never going to be using both for anything different. I have one application, chronorails, which will one day control all my websites (mwahahahah so much to do, so little time). But for now, I don''t even have my own server, just really inexpensive shared hosting. I''ll never edit on one location without wanting the changes in the other place, so no merging required ever. Basically, I''m going to sit at home and code my program. Then, I''m going to get thirsty and tired, so I''ll save it, then take my laptop to Starbucks and continue my work there. Nothing fancy at all... Granted one day I''ll want to learn subversion for all the features and because jobs will want it... but I don''t want to start anything new so soon, lol. -Ryan On Jan 15, 12:28 pm, Phillip Koebbe <phillipkoe...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:07 PM, kopf1988 wrote: > > > Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > > (although I''ve heard of some free places). > > > Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the > > two computers are never on the same network. They use two differnt > > ISPs, always. Pretend my laptop is in florida while my home computer > > is in california. (or Sydney and New York, lol). > > > I''ve heard of WinSCP... might that work just to keep the folders > > synchronized? I think the subversion idea is almost giving me a > > headache... it took me weeks just to get GoDaddy and RoR to work, lol. > > I don''t want to have to learn something new so soon after that > > headache. > > > -Ryan > > Another possibility, though not as good as source control, is a > simple ftp server. Run it on your desktop then get or put as the > case may be. > > One question, though: > > Do you ever expect to have changes on one that you don''t have on the > other? If you will need to do any type of merging, you really need > to figure out a way to use source control. I''d recommend git or > mercurial. They are both distributed source control managers and you > can push/pull from your notebook to your desktop. Merging is easy. > It''s all pretty fast. And it''s not that hard to learn. > > Google for them. > > Peace, > Phillip- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, kopf1988 wrote:> > Well, that''s just the thing... I''m never going to be using both for > anything different. I have one application, chronorails, which will > one day control all my websites (mwahahahah so much to do, so little > time). But for now, I don''t even have my own server, just really > inexpensive shared hosting. > > I''ll never edit on one location without wanting the changes in the > other place, so no merging required ever. Basically, I''m going to sit >I don''t think I phrased my question properly. If there''s a chance that the code will ever get out of sync, you''ll want merge. Think of a scenario in which you do some coding on your home computer, then get thirsty (as you say) and move it all over to your notebook. After a couple of hours at Starbucks, you come home, but for one reason or another, you forget to put the code back on your home computer. A while later, you sit down and make some changes at your home computer. Now you''re out of sync. If you upload your notebook''s copy to your home computer, you''ll lose what you just did. You now need to make the same changes on your notebook before you can upload the source again. Or, if you use mercurial or git, you could so something as easy as pull merge commit push and be done with it. Peace, Phillip --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Still sounds painful. Although I''ve heard of a good free svn host... maybe I''ll try it. *sigh*. I just hope this goes better than my other new things... Everytime I try to get something new working, I run into a years worth of problems. -Ryan On Jan 15, 12:57 pm, Phillip Koebbe <phillipkoe...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM,kopf1988wrote: > > > > > Well, that''s just the thing... I''m never going to be using both for > > anything different. I have one application, chronorails, which will > > one day control all my websites (mwahahahah so much to do, so little > > time). But for now, I don''t even have my own server, just really > > inexpensive shared hosting. > > > I''ll never edit on one location without wanting the changes in the > > other place, so no merging required ever. Basically, I''m going to sit > > I don''t think I phrased my question properly. If there''s a chance > that the code will ever get out of sync, you''ll want merge. Think of > a scenario in which you do some coding on your home computer, then > get thirsty (as you say) and move it all over to your notebook. > After a couple of hours at Starbucks, you come home, but for one > reason or another, you forget to put the code back on your home > computer. A while later, you sit down and make some changes at your > home computer. Now you''re out of sync. If you upload your notebook''s > copy to your home computer, you''ll lose what you just did. You now > need to make the same changes on your notebook before you can upload > the source again. Or, if you use mercurial or git, you could so > something as easy as > > pull > merge > commit > push > > and be done with it. > > Peace, > Phillip--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
google code is a good free svn host! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 1/15/08, kopf1988 <kopf1988-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > (although I''ve heard of some free places).What needs supported? A subversion repository is a just directory with a bunch of files in it. They would have to run one command to make your repo: svnadmin create --fs-type fsfs /home/kopf1988/svn/repo1 Then you would run one command to check it out: svn co kopf1988@somehost:~/svn/repo1 repo1 After that it''s just svn up, svn st, and svn ci which are your update, stat, and commit commands that you would use day to day. You could put those on a post-it until you remember them.> Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the > two computers are never on the same network. They use two differnt > ISPs, always. Pretend my laptop is in florida while my home computer > is in california. (or Sydney and New York, lol).So? Subversion wouldn''t care if you were committing changes from the moon.> I''ve heard of WinSCP... might that work just to keep the folders > synchronized?No idea, I''m M$ free for nearly 5 years now.> I think the subversion idea is almost giving me a > headache... it took me weeks just to get GoDaddy and RoR to work, lol. > > I don''t want to have to learn something new so soon after that > headache.I don''t mean to offend but have you considered a career as a non-programmer? This is what we do, day-in, day-out, everyday.. we learn new stuff. Considering everything you''ve said up to now, I think you''re in for a lot more pain otherwise. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Ouch. No, I''m a programmer at heart... just a programmer with no money. IE i can''t make things work like that... like my host would ever create a subversion repository for me pfft. Sheesh. In the 8 years since 6th grade (i''m young) I''ve transitioned from HTML to javascript to vbscript to vb to java to perl/cgi to ruby/ cgi to RoR. In the meantime I''ve also picked up some CSS and php. There''s probably a few more things that I''ve learned but can''t think of right now. I''d say I deserve a short break from learning new things ^_^. That''s at least 1 new language every year... not to mention IDE changes (or lack of anything more than notepad), getting a good host, and designing several websites in the meantime. Sincerely, Ryan On Jan 15, 3:12 pm, "Greg Donald" <gdon...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 1/15/08, kopf1988 <kopf1...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > > (although I''ve heard of some free places). > What needs supported? A subversion repository is a just directory > with a bunch of files in it. They would have to run one command to > make your repo: > > svnadmin create --fs-type fsfs /home/kopf1988/svn/repo1 > > Then you would run one command to check it out: > > svn co kopf1988@somehost:~/svn/repo1 repo1 > > After that it''s just svn up, svn st, and svn ci which are your update, > stat, and commit commands that you would use day to day. You could > put those on a post-it until you remember them. > > > Also, as for just synchronizing the folders, I should note that the > > two computers are never on the same network. They use two differnt > > ISPs, always. Pretend my laptop is in florida while my home computer > > is in california. (or Sydney and New York, lol). > > So? Subversion wouldn''t care if you were committing changes from the moon. > > > I''ve heard of WinSCP... might that work just to keep the folders > > synchronized? > > No idea, I''m M$ free for nearly 5 years now. > > > I think the subversion idea is almost giving me a > > headache... it took me weeks just to get GoDaddy and RoR to work, lol. > > > I don''t want to have to learn something new so soon after that > > headache. > > I don''t mean to offend but have you considered a career as a > non-programmer? This is what we do, day-in, day-out, everyday.. we > learn new stuff. Considering everything you''ve said up to now, I > think you''re in for a lot more pain otherwise. > > -- > Greg Donaldhttp://destiney.com/--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
For others having a hard time making the plunge to using subversion after initial reads I found a series of web casts that explain it yet again and show someone using it. http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=950000&fromSeriesID=95 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:11:51 -0500, Jeremy McAnally wrote:> Subversion is the easiest one to setup and get going. > http://subversion.tigris.org/ > > A lot of cheap web hosts (e.g., Dreamhost) offer Subversion support with > their web packages. So basically you''d sync the source to your web > account then pull it down on the other computer, push your changes back > to the server, pull them down on the other computer, rinse repeat.I''m came to subversion through http://www.googlecode.com/ and it''s just blown me away with how amazing subversion is and how handy it is that google made it as easy as possible. -Thufir --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:07:21 -0800, kopf1988 wrote:> Right, but I also don''t have a host that supports Subversion easily > (although I''ve heard of some free places).Well, I replied to an earlier post in this thread, but: http://www.googlecode.com/ -Thufir --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---