Hi all, I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production servers with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the other until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but not what I want). It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" if you choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get called each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated on the fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated on the fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do this when the class/table definition is changed, because those moments are easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course is that notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is non- trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that just did a load for that set of classes as though they were running in development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached normally. Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brad --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hey, Brad. You can do something like:
load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb"
in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if this will do
exactly what you want, but it is something to try.
HTH,
Jamey
On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett
<bradleyjaybennett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production
servers
> with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated
> dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the other
> until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but not
> what I want).
>
> It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" if
you
> choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get
called
> each time the class is referenced. Or something like that.
>
> Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated on the
> fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated on the
> fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is
> referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do this
> when the class/table definition is changed, because those moments are
> easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course is that
> notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is non-
> trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that just
did
> a load for that set of classes as though they were running in
> development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached normally.
>
> Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
> >
>
>
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That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced myself that once you "require"d something, you couldn''t then do a "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later! On Jan 2, 5:47 pm, "Jamey Cribbs" <jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hey, Brad. You can do something like: > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if this will do > exactly what you want, but it is something to try. > > HTH, > > Jamey > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production servers > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the other > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but not > > what I want). > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" if you > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get called > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated on the > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated on the > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do this > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those moments are > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course is that > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is non- > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that just did > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running in > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached normally. > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
More embarrassing is the fact that this doesn''t actually solve my problem... What I really need is a way to force ActiveRecord to reload the columns on a particular class, as though that class were running in dev mode. (I''m on Rails 1.2.3 btw). As I mentioned above, I create the classes on the fly, but simply re-defining them each time doesn''t trigger AR to re-query the DB. I''m digging into the code, but if anyone has any idea of how to force this to happen for a model class, I''d appreciate it. Brad On Jan 2, 8:27 pm, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced > myself that once you "require"d something, you couldn''t then do a > "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later! > On Jan 2, 5:47 pm, "Jamey Cribbs" <jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Hey, Brad. You can do something like: > > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if this will do > > exactly what you want, but it is something to try. > > > HTH, > > > Jamey > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production servers > > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated > > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the other > > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but not > > > what I want). > > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" if you > > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get called > > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. > > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated on the > > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated on the > > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is > > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do this > > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those moments are > > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course is that > > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is non- > > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that just did > > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running in > > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached normally. > > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I remember seeing something similar while googling a few days ago for
another issue.
I wonder if you did something like:
remove_const(''Person'')
load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb"
If that would cause Rails to re-query the db for the table''s columns.
Jamey
On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Brad Bennett
<bradleyjaybennett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> More embarrassing is the fact that this doesn''t actually solve my
> problem...
>
> What I really need is a way to force ActiveRecord to reload the
> columns on a particular class, as though that class were running in
> dev mode. (I''m on Rails 1.2.3 btw). As I mentioned above, I
create
> the classes on the fly, but simply re-defining them each time
doesn''t
> trigger AR to re-query the DB.
>
> I''m digging into the code, but if anyone has any idea of how to
force
> this to happen for a model class, I''d appreciate it.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On Jan 2, 8:27pm, Brad Bennett
<bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced
> > myself that once you "require"d something, you
couldn''t then do a
> > "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later!
> > On Jan 2, 5:47pm, "Jamey Cribbs"
<jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hey, Brad. You can do something like:
> >
> > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb"
> >
> > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if this
will
> do
> > > exactly what you want, but it is something to try.
> >
> > > HTH,
> >
> > > Jamey
> >
> > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett
<bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi all,
> >
> > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two
production servers
> > > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated
> > > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the
other
> > > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior,
but not
> > > > what I want).
> >
> > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a
"require" if you
> > > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise,
and they get called
> > > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that.
> >
> > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated
on the
> > > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated
on the
> > > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class
each time it is
> > > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally
I''d only do this
> > > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those
moments
> are
> > > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of
course is
> that
> > > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is
non-
> > > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a
solution that just
> did
> > > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running
in
> > > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached
normally.
> >
> > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Brad- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>
>
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On 3 Jan 2008, at 16:22, Jamey Cribbs wrote:> I remember seeing something similar while googling a few days ago > for another issue. > > I wonder if you did something like: > remove_const(''Person'') > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > If that would cause Rails to re-query the db for the table''s > columns. >I think that might screw things up (eg if other things have references to the Person class, eg via associations) You can do Person.reset_column_information after you''ve newly defined person. Fred> Jamey > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Brad Bennett < bradleyjaybennett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > More embarrassing is the fact that this doesn''t actually solve my > problem... > > What I really need is a way to force ActiveRecord to reload the > columns on a particular class, as though that class were running in > dev mode. (I''m on Rails 1.2.3 btw). As I mentioned above, I create > the classes on the fly, but simply re-defining them each time doesn''t > trigger AR to re-query the DB. > > I''m digging into the code, but if anyone has any idea of how to force > this to happen for a model class, I''d appreciate it. > > Brad > > > On Jan 2, 8:27pm, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced > > myself that once you "require"d something, you couldn''t then do a > > "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later! > > On Jan 2, 5:47pm, "Jamey Cribbs" < jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey, Brad. You can do something like: > > > > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if > this will do > > > exactly what you want, but it is something to try. > > > > > HTH, > > > > > Jamey > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett < > bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production > servers > > > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated > > > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the > other > > > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but > not > > > > what I want). > > > > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" > if you > > > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get > called > > > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. > > > > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated > on the > > > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated > on the > > > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is > > > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do > this > > > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those > moments are > > > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course > is that > > > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is > non- > > > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that > just did > > > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running in > > > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached > normally. > > > > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Yeah, that''s definitely better. I was doing things my way because I needed to have some class level macros re-execute, but if Brad just needs the table structure re-queried, reset_column_information looks like just the ticket. On Jan 3, 2008 11:39 AM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On 3 Jan 2008, at 16:22, Jamey Cribbs wrote: > > > I remember seeing something similar while googling a few days ago > > for another issue. > > > > I wonder if you did something like: > > remove_const(''Person'') > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > > If that would cause Rails to re-query the db for the table''s > > columns. > > > I think that might screw things up (eg if other things have references > to the Person class, eg via associations) > You can do Person.reset_column_information after you''ve newly defined > person. > > Fred > > Jamey > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Brad Bennett < bradleyjaybennett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > wrote: > > > > More embarrassing is the fact that this doesn''t actually solve my > > problem... > > > > What I really need is a way to force ActiveRecord to reload the > > columns on a particular class, as though that class were running in > > dev mode. (I''m on Rails 1.2.3 btw). As I mentioned above, I create > > the classes on the fly, but simply re-defining them each time doesn''t > > trigger AR to re-query the DB. > > > > I''m digging into the code, but if anyone has any idea of how to force > > this to happen for a model class, I''d appreciate it. > > > > Brad > > > > > > On Jan 2, 8:27pm, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced > > > myself that once you "require"d something, you couldn''t then do a > > > "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later! > > > On Jan 2, 5:47pm, "Jamey Cribbs" < jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Brad. You can do something like: > > > > > > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > > > > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if > > this will do > > > > exactly what you want, but it is something to try. > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > Jamey > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett < > > bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production > > servers > > > > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated > > > > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the > > other > > > > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but > > not > > > > > what I want). > > > > > > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" > > if you > > > > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get > > called > > > > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated > > on the > > > > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated > > on the > > > > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is > > > > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do > > this > > > > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those > > moments are > > > > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course > > is that > > > > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is > > non- > > > > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that > > just did > > > > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running in > > > > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached > > normally. > > > > > > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Fred, thank you, reset_column_information looks like it''s working. I was scanning base.rb for a solution and apparently I glazed over before I got to that method. I was also trying your approach Jamey, of removing and redefining the constant and was having some issues. Thanks a lot for the responses! Brad On Jan 3, 9:00 am, "Jamey Cribbs" <jamey.cri...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Yeah, that''s definitely better. I was doing things my way because I needed > to have some class level macros re-execute, but if Brad just needs the table > structure re-queried, reset_column_information looks like just the ticket. > > On Jan 3, 2008 11:39 AM, Frederick Cheung <frederick.che...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > On 3 Jan 2008, at 16:22, Jamey Cribbs wrote: > > > > I remember seeing something similar while googling a few days ago > > > for another issue. > > > > I wonder if you did something like: > > > remove_const(''Person'') > > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > > If that would cause Rails to re-query the db for the table''s > > > columns. > > > I think that might screw things up (eg if other things have references > > to the Person class, eg via associations) > > You can do Person.reset_column_information after you''ve newly defined > > person. > > > Fred > > > Jamey > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Brad Bennett < bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > wrote: > > > > More embarrassing is the fact that this doesn''t actually solve my > > > problem... > > > > What I really need is a way to force ActiveRecord to reload the > > > columns on a particular class, as though that class were running in > > > dev mode. (I''m on Rails 1.2.3 btw). As I mentioned above, I create > > > the classes on the fly, but simply re-defining them each time doesn''t > > > trigger AR to re-query the DB. > > > > I''m digging into the code, but if anyone has any idea of how to force > > > this to happen for a model class, I''d appreciate it. > > > > Brad > > > > On Jan 2, 8:27pm, Brad Bennett <bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > That is very embarrassing for me. Thanks Jamey. I had convinced > > > > myself that once you "require"d something, you couldn''t then do a > > > > "load". Next time, test first, ask questions later! > > > > On Jan 2, 5:47pm, "Jamey Cribbs" < jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hey, Brad. You can do something like: > > > > > > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb" > > > > > > in your code when you want to re-load the model. Not sure if > > > this will do > > > > > exactly what you want, but it is something to try. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Jamey > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:37 PM, Brad Bennett < > > > bradleyjaybenn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > I''ve got an issue that came up once I went to two production > > > servers > > > > > > with a class (a set of classes actually) that gets updated > > > > > > dynamically. It only gets updated on one server and not the > > > other > > > > > > until I do a restart (which is the correct rails behavior, but > > > not > > > > > > what I want). > > > > > > > It looks to me like the Dependencies Module does a "require" > > > if you > > > > > > choose to cache_classes, and a "load" otherwise, and they get > > > called > > > > > > each time the class is referenced. Or something like that. > > > > > > > Anyway, I have a set of classes that are created and updated > > > on the > > > > > > fly, for which the underlying tables are created and updated > > > on the > > > > > > fly, and for those I''d like to re-load the class each time it is > > > > > > referenced (or re-require it). Actually, ideally I''d only do > > > this > > > > > > when the class/table definition is changed, because those > > > moments are > > > > > > easily identified in my code. The problem with that of course > > > is that > > > > > > notifying the other server(s) that HEY, UPDATE YOUR MODEL is > > > non- > > > > > > trivial (to me anyway), so I''d be happy with a solution that > > > just did > > > > > > a load for that set of classes as though they were running in > > > > > > development mode, while the rest of my classes were cached > > > normally. > > > > > > > Any help on this is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Brad- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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On Jan 3, 8:22 am, "Jamey Cribbs" <jcri...-5tZyCCM3m2VWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I wonder if you did something like: > remove_const(''Person'') > load "#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/person.rb"I in turn wonder if Person.reset_subclasses would also work. ///ark --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---