I have added the following to my application controller so that rails
sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser
accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise.
<code>
before_filter :adjust_request_format
def adjust_request_format
request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml?
end
def browser_accepts_xhtml?
return
request.env["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/
xhtml+xml")
end
</code>
I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my
actions (and I
don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather
than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific
template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default
template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and
xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code.
However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/
application.erb will be included as expected but if the format
is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone
know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml
format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions?
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Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting the doc type at the top of the page not enough for you? On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I have added the following to my application controller so that rails > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > <code> > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > def adjust_request_format > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > end > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > return request.env["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > xhtml+xml") > end > </code> > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and I > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions? > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML does not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content negotiation" which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by modifying your server settings as well. On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting the doc type > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that rails > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > <code> > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > def adjust_request_format > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > end > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > return request.env["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > xhtml+xml") > > end > > </code> > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and I > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions? > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have added the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML does > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content negotiation" > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by modifying > your server settings as well. > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting the doc type > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that rails > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > <code> > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > end > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > return request.env["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > xhtml+xml") > > > end > > > </code> > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and I > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions? > > > -- > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
But why? On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have added > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML does > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content negotiation" > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by modifying > > your server settings as well. > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting the > doc type > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that > rails > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > > > <code> > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > end > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > return request.env > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > end > > > > </code> > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and > I > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that > default > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html > and > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does > anyone > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my > actions? > > > > > -- > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of HTML? I dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high standard I guess :D On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> But why? > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have added > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML does > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content negotiation" > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by modifying > > > your server settings as well. > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting the > > doc type > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that > > rails > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > > > <code> > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > end > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > return request.env > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > end > > > > > </code> > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and > > I > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that > > default > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html > > and > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does > > anyone > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my > > actions? > > > > > -- > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at
all. Setting
the doctype on the first line in the layout does that!
You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re
trying to get it
to render XHTML.
If you want to do to render XML you''d do:
responds_to |format|
format.xml { @object }
end
in your action and Rails will do the rest.
On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys
<asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of HTML? I
> dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high standard
> I guess :D
>
> On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > But why?
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys
<asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1
and have added
> > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb:
> >
> > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys
<asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to
XHTML does
> > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML
instead of
> > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform
"content
> negotiation"
> > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also
be done by
> modifying
> > > > your server settings as well.
> >
> > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is
setting
> the
> > > doc type
> > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you?
> >
> > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys
<asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > I have added the following to my application
controller so that
> > > rails
> > > > > > sets the content_type header to
application/xhtml+xml if the
> browser
> > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html
otherwise.
> >
> > > > > > <code>
> > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format
> >
> > > > > > def adjust_request_format
> > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if
browser_accepts_xhtml?
> > > > > > end
> >
> > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml?
> > > > > > return request.env
> > >
["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/
> > > > > > xhtml+xml")
> > > > > > end
> > > > > > </code>
> >
> > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to
|format|" blocks for my actions
> (and
> > > I
> > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view
template home.erbrather
> > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a
> format-specific
> > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to
using that
> > > default
> > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template
for both the
> html
> > > and
> > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of
code.
> >
> > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout
template,
> layouts/
> > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but
if the format
> > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some
reason. Does
> > > anyone
> > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included
for the :xhtml
> > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks
in all of my
> > > actions?
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net
> >
> > --
> > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net
> >
>
--
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http://www.frozenplague.net
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Are you sure about that? http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html On Dec 17, 10:14 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at all. Setting > the doctype on the first line in the layout does that! > > You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re trying to get it > to render XHTML. > > If you want to do to render XML you''d do: > > responds_to |format| > format.xml { @object } > end > > in your action and Rails will do the rest. > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of HTML? I > > dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high standard > > I guess :D > > > On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > But why? > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have added > > > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML does > > > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > > > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content > > negotiation" > > > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by > > modifying > > > > > your server settings as well. > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is setting > > the > > > > doc type > > > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that > > > > rails > > > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the > > browser > > > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > > > > > <code> > > > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > return request.env > > > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > </code> > > > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions > > (and > > > > I > > > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erbrather > > > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a > > format-specific > > > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that > > > > default > > > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the > > html > > > > and > > > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, > > layouts/ > > > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does > > > > anyone > > > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my > > > > actions? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > -- > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The article was written in 2003! Browsers are probably doing that by now. My point is what you''re doing is pointless. On Dec 18, 2007 4:53 PM, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Are you sure about that? > http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html > > On Dec 17, 10:14 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at all. > Setting > > the doctype on the first line in the layout does that! > > > > You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re trying to get > it > > to render XHTML. > > > > If you want to do to render XML you''d do: > > > > responds_to |format| > > format.xml { @object } > > end > > > > in your action and Rails will do the rest. > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of HTML? I > > > dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high standard > > > I guess :D > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > But why? > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have > added > > > > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > > > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML > does > > > > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > > > > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content > > > negotiation" > > > > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by > > > modifying > > > > > > your server settings as well. > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is > setting > > > the > > > > > doc type > > > > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so > that > > > > > rails > > > > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the > > > browser > > > > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > <code> > > > > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > return request.env > > > > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > </code> > > > > > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my > actions > > > (and > > > > > I > > > > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template > home.erbrather > > > > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a > > > format-specific > > > > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using > that > > > > > default > > > > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the > > > html > > > > > and > > > > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, > > > layouts/ > > > > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the > format > > > > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. > Does > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the > :xhtml > > > > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of > my > > > > > actions? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > -- > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > -- > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Well you''re probably right, I''m just tinkering after all. But whether my motivations are pointless or not I still wouldn''t mind knowing the answer to the original question I posed. That is, why does application.erb only get included for the :html format? This could come up in other situations besides my "pointless" one. On Dec 17, 10:28 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> The article was written in 2003! Browsers are probably doing that by now. My > point is what you''re doing is pointless. > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:53 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Are you sure about that? > >http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html > > > On Dec 17, 10:14 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at all. > > Setting > > > the doctype on the first line in the layout does that! > > > > You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re trying to get > > it > > > to render XHTML. > > > > If you want to do to render XML you''d do: > > > > responds_to |format| > > > format.xml { @object } > > > end > > > > in your action and Rails will do the rest. > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of HTML? I > > > > dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high standard > > > > I guess :D > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > But why? > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and have > > added > > > > > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > > > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to XHTML > > does > > > > > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML instead of > > > > > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content > > > > negotiation" > > > > > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by > > > > modifying > > > > > > > your server settings as well. > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is > > setting > > > > the > > > > > > doc type > > > > > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller so > > that > > > > > > rails > > > > > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > <code> > > > > > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > return request.env > > > > > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > </code> > > > > > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my > > actions > > > > (and > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template > > home.erbrather > > > > > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a > > > > format-specific > > > > > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using > > that > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the > > > > html > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, > > > > layouts/ > > > > > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the > > format > > > > > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. > > Does > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the > > :xhtml > > > > > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of > > my > > > > > > actions? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > -- > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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Because that''s the only place it *needs* to come up in. On Dec 18, 2007 5:05 PM, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Well you''re probably right, I''m just tinkering after all. But whether > my motivations are pointless or not I still wouldn''t mind knowing the > answer to the original question I posed. That is, why does > application.erb only get included for the :html format? This could > come up in other situations besides my "pointless" one. > > On Dec 17, 10:28 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > The article was written in 2003! Browsers are probably doing that by > now. My > > point is what you''re doing is pointless. > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:53 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure about that? > > >http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:14 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at all. > > > Setting > > > > the doctype on the first line in the layout does that! > > > > > > You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re trying to > get > > > it > > > > to render XHTML. > > > > > > If you want to do to render XML you''d do: > > > > > > responds_to |format| > > > > format.xml { @object } > > > > end > > > > > > in your action and Rails will do the rest. > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of > HTML? I > > > > > dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high > standard > > > > > I guess :D > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > But why? > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and > have > > > added > > > > > > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > > > > > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to > XHTML > > > does > > > > > > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML > instead of > > > > > > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content > > > > > negotiation" > > > > > > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by > > > > > modifying > > > > > > > > your server settings as well. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is > > > setting > > > > > the > > > > > > > doc type > > > > > > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller > so > > > that > > > > > > > rails > > > > > > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if > the > > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > <code> > > > > > > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > > return request.env > > > > > > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > </code> > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my > > > actions > > > > > (and > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template > > > home.erbrather > > > > > > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a > > > > > format-specific > > > > > > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using > > > that > > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both > the > > > > > html > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, > > > > > layouts/ > > > > > > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the > > > format > > > > > > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some > reason. > > > Does > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for > the > > > :xhtml > > > > > > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all > of > > > my > > > > > > > actions? > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > -- > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > -- > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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Ah I guess that makes sense, rails assumes that only :html will ever need to include a layout. In my case though it needs to come up in my xhtml template too... so can I turn "include layout" on for :xhtml somehow in a filter or something? On Dec 17, 10:36 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Because that''s the only place it *needs* to come up in. > > On Dec 18, 2007 5:05 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Well you''re probably right, I''m just tinkering after all. But whether > > my motivations are pointless or not I still wouldn''t mind knowing the > > answer to the original question I posed. That is, why does > > application.erb only get included for the :html format? This could > > come up in other situations besides my "pointless" one. > > > On Dec 17, 10:28 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > The article was written in 2003! Browsers are probably doing that by > > now. My > > > point is what you''re doing is pointless. > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:53 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Are you sure about that? > > > >http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:14 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > You''ve over-complicated something that isn''t that complex at all. > > > > Setting > > > > > the doctype on the first line in the layout does that! > > > > > > You''re not trying to get the browser to render XML, you''re trying to > > get > > > > it > > > > > to render XHTML. > > > > > > If you want to do to render XML you''d do: > > > > > > responds_to |format| > > > > > format.xml { @object } > > > > > end > > > > > > in your action and Rails will do the rest. > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:42 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > You mean why do I want the browser to render XHTML instead of > > HTML? I > > > > > > dunno, just thought it would be cool to hold myself to a high > > standard > > > > > > I guess :D > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:07 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > But why? > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Oh I should have also mentioned that I''m on rails 2.0.1 and > > have > > > > added > > > > > > > > the following line to config/initializers/mime_types.rb: > > > > > > > > > Mime::Type.register "application/xhtml+xml", :xhtml > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:03 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Setting the DOCTYPE or even the content-type meta tag to > > XHTML > > > > does > > > > > > > > > not actually get the browser to treat the code as XML > > instead of > > > > > > > > > HTML. To get it to do that you have to perform "content > > > > > > negotiation" > > > > > > > > > which I''m trying to do through rails but can also be done by > > > > > > modifying > > > > > > > > > your server settings as well. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:01 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why would you want to do something this complicated? Is > > > > setting > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > doc type > > > > > > > > > > at the top of the page not enough for you? > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have added the following to my application controller > > so > > > > that > > > > > > > > rails > > > > > > > > > > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if > > the > > > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > <code> > > > > > > > > > > > before_filter :adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > > > def adjust_request_format > > > > > > > > > > > request.format = :xhtml if browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > def browser_accepts_xhtml? > > > > > > > > > > > return request.env > > > > > > > > ["HTTP_ACCEPT"].split('','').include?("application/ > > > > > > > > > > > xhtml+xml") > > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > </code> > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my > > > > actions > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template > > > > home.erbrather > > > > > > > > > > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a > > > > > > format-specific > > > > > > > > > > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using > > > > that > > > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > > > template. This way I can use a single template for both > > the > > > > > > html > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, > > > > > > layouts/ > > > > > > > > > > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the > > > > format > > > > > > > > > > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some > > reason. > > > > Does > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for > > the > > > > :xhtml > > > > > > > > > > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all > > of > > > > my > > > > > > > > actions? > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > > > -- > > > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net > > -- > Ryan Bigghttp://www.frozenplague.net--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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Which part of the fact that XHTML templates ARE HTML templates didn''t you quite understand? They''re the same thing! Yes you put it in a .html.erb extension, but really it''s still an XHTML page if you set that as being the doc type. Please understand this and I will not have to hunt you down. Thanks. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''m sorry I guess my wording is confusing templates with mime-types. In rails 2.0 templates are named according to this pattern: action.format.renderer Now the "format" is important because it determines what mime-type the page is served with. In my case html and xhtml formats serve templates with different mime-types, text/html and application/xhtml +xml respectively. Now you''re right the templates themselves are identical which is exactly the reason why I want to use a common one for both html and xhtml by leaving out the "format" and naming the template as action.erb instead of action.format.erb so that, irregardless of the format, action.erb is the template that gets served. My problem is that I also want action.erb to "show layout" irregardless of the format but it only shows layout when the format is html. However I think I can live with the fact that this is just a rails "assumption" and a good one at that so I''m content with leaving it be for now. No need to be so hostile Ryan. Browsers really do ignore the DOCTYPE and serve HTML... I''m observing it with Firefox 2.0 right now... in the year 2007.... On Dec 17, 10:54 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Which part of the fact that XHTML templates ARE HTML templates didn''t you > quite understand? They''re the same thing! Yes you put it in a .html.erb > extension, but really it''s still an XHTML page if you set that as being the > doc type. > > Please understand this and I will not have to hunt you down. > > Thanks.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Oh and sorry I guess shouldn''t be saying that browsers "serve" html but rather they "parse" or "render" HTML unless you explicitly tell them not to by setting the content_type response header to the appropriate xml mime-type. On Dec 17, 11:01 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''m sorry I guess my wording is confusing templates with mime-types. > In rails 2.0 templates are named according to this pattern: > action.format.renderer > > Now the "format" is important because it determines what mime-type the > page is served with. In my case html and xhtml formats serve > templates with different mime-types, text/html and application/xhtml > +xml respectively. Now you''re right the templates themselves are > identical which is exactly the reason why I want to use a common one > for both html and xhtml by leaving out the "format" and naming the > template as action.erb instead of action.format.erb so that, > irregardless of the format, action.erb is the template that gets > served. > > My problem is that I also want action.erb to "show layout" > irregardless of the format but it only shows layout when the format is > html. However I think I can live with the fact that this is just a > rails "assumption" and a good one at that so I''m content with leaving > it be for now. > > No need to be so hostile Ryan. Browsers really do ignore the DOCTYPE > and serve HTML... I''m observing it with Firefox 2.0 right now... in > the year 2007.... > > On Dec 17, 10:54 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Which part of the fact that XHTML templates ARE HTML templates didn''t you > > quite understand? They''re the same thing! Yes you put it in a .html.erb > > extension, but really it''s still an XHTML page if you set that as being the > > doc type. > > > Please understand this and I will not have to hunt you down. > > > Thanks.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
What part of the page is rendered differently depending on the content-type? afaik, HTML/XHTML is rendered the same regardless of whether or not it''s text/html or text/html+xml On Dec 18, 2007 5:33 PM, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Oh and sorry I guess shouldn''t be saying that browsers "serve" html > but rather they "parse" or "render" HTML unless you explicitly tell > them not to by setting the content_type response header to the > appropriate xml mime-type. > > On Dec 17, 11:01 pm, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I''m sorry I guess my wording is confusing templates with mime-types. > > In rails 2.0 templates are named according to this pattern: > > action.format.renderer > > > > Now the "format" is important because it determines what mime-type the > > page is served with. In my case html and xhtml formats serve > > templates with different mime-types, text/html and application/xhtml > > +xml respectively. Now you''re right the templates themselves are > > identical which is exactly the reason why I want to use a common one > > for both html and xhtml by leaving out the "format" and naming the > > template as action.erb instead of action.format.erb so that, > > irregardless of the format, action.erb is the template that gets > > served. > > > > My problem is that I also want action.erb to "show layout" > > irregardless of the format but it only shows layout when the format is > > html. However I think I can live with the fact that this is just a > > rails "assumption" and a good one at that so I''m content with leaving > > it be for now. > > > > No need to be so hostile Ryan. Browsers really do ignore the DOCTYPE > > and serve HTML... I''m observing it with Firefox 2.0 right now... in > > the year 2007.... > > > > On Dec 17, 10:54 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Which part of the fact that XHTML templates ARE HTML templates didn''t > you > > > quite understand? They''re the same thing! Yes you put it in a > .html.erb > > > extension, but really it''s still an XHTML page if you set that as > being the > > > doc type. > > > > > Please understand this and I will not have to hunt you down. > > > > > Thanks. > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Dec 18, 2007 3:01 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What part of the page is rendered differently depending on the content-type? > afaik, HTML/XHTML is rendered the same regardless of whether or not it''s > text/html or text/html+xmlgoogle "application/xhtml+xml versus text/html" for enlightenment :-) A fairly concise summary can be found here, BTW: <http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393445> HTH! -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''m sure if you wrote up a whole valid XHTML page and put it on your Ruby On Rails site and ran it through the same validator, it would still be valid. I have nothing more to say about the matter. I believe it''s an attempt at doing something irrelevant, or a very good attempt at trolling. On Dec 19, 2007 11:27 AM, Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On Dec 18, 2007 3:01 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > What part of the page is rendered differently depending on the > content-type? > > afaik, HTML/XHTML is rendered the same regardless of whether or not it''s > > text/html or text/html+xml > > google "application/xhtml+xml versus text/html" for enlightenment :-) > > A fairly concise summary can be found here, BTW: > <http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393445> > > HTH! > -- > Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > > >-- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
2007/12/19, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com>:> I'm sure if you wrote up a whole valid XHTML page and put it on your Ruby On > Rails site and ran it through the same validator, it would still be valid.Except XHTML is not supposed to be served as text/html, but that's another story.> I have nothing more to say about the matter. I believe it's an attempt at > doing something irrelevant, or a very good attempt at trolling.Well, sorry to disappoint, but your believes need some adjustment. While DOCTYPE does not do much more than prompting browsers to use particular rendering mode (standards, quirks, etc.) and informing validators which standard to check code against, MIME types prompt browsers to use different parser. For a starter that means that Internet Explorer will not render the page, but will offer you to download it. Yes, IE does not support proper XHTML (by proper I mean XHTML code served as application/xhtml+xml), even in IE7. The next important point is, that if you have any error in your code your users are likely to get "Yellow page of death" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Screen_of_Death#Yellow ) instead of the page content. And there is more: CSS is interpreted differently (selectors are case sensitive, so if you have uppercase selectors in CSS they will be ignored; html/body is treated differently), comments are interpreted differently, only five entities allowed (so © will give you nice yellow page of death), Javascript may cause more errors, document.write no longer works, you should use different methods for DOM manipulation (e.g. createElementNS vs. createElement), etc. You can learn more here: http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml (old classic) http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/12/xhtml-beginners http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200501/the_perils_of_using_xhtml_properly/ http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/HTML_vs._XHTML http://annevankesteren.nl/2004/07/mime I prefer HTML 4.01 Strict, but if someone chooses to use XHTML then it is good to know trade offs, gotchas and things Zeldmand did not tell youÂ… Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 12/18/07, Adam Soltys <asoltys-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I have added the following to my application controller so that rails > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. >*snipped example code*> > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and I > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions?Hi Adam, did you make any progress on these issues? I prefer xhtml too, especially during development. Browser errors on malformed markup is a great way to catch errors quickly. Regards, Isak --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Isak, I ended up cheating a bit and omitting the format from my view names but specifying it for my layouts and then getting the layouts to render a common partial. So my views are named "home.erb", "about.erb", and my layout is in "layouts/_application.erb". I have "layouts/application.html.erb" and "layouts/application.xhtml.erb" but those both contain this single line: <%= render partial => ''layouts/application'' %> It''s a bit of a workaround, I know, but my controller is very clean as a result of my being able to rely on rails'' conventions rather than coding everything explicitly. Rimantas thanks for clearing things up in your post and linking to those articles. I found them very enlightening. Hopefully Ryan did too ;) Adam On Jan 2, 1:22 am, "Isak Hansen" <isak.han...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 12/18/07, Adam Soltys <asol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > I have added the following to my application controller so that rails > > sets the content_type header to application/xhtml+xml if the browser > > accepts that mime-type and defaults to text/html otherwise. > > *snipped example code* > > > > > I haven''t added any "respond_to |format|" blocks for my actions (and I > > don''t want to) but instead I name my view template home.erb rather > > than home.xhtml.erb and rely on the fact that if a format-specific > > template cannot be found then rails will resort to using that default > > template. This way I can use a single template for both the html and > > xhtml formats without having to write a lick of code. > > > However, if the format is :html then my layout template, layouts/ > > application.erb will be included as expected but if the format > > is :xhtml then the layout is not included for some reason. Does anyone > > know why not and what I can do to get it included for the :xhtml > > format without having to write respond_to blocks in all of my actions? > > Hi Adam, > did you make any progress on these issues? > > I prefer xhtml too, especially during development. Browser errors on > malformed markup is a great way to catch errors quickly. > > Regards, > Isak--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---