Rails - Dec 2007 - why the size of rails souorce and gem is different ?

Hi ,

I just curious to know, why the source of rails (about +10mb) vs
rails.gem (+200kb) is very different ?

I just want to know how to use the rails from source instead from the
gem ...

Thank you ! :D
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Ok, so the source come up with the dependecy right ... how to install
it from source?
I might be prefer the source than the gem because I cannot download
the package using gem (blocked by proxy and i need to install on
several offline sources)

Tx

Philip Hallstrom wrote:
> > I just curious to know, why the source of rails (about +10mb) vs
> > rails.gem (+200kb) is very different ?
> >
> > I just want to know how to use the rails from source instead from the
> > gem ...
>
> The gem is a small stub that requires other gems such as
> active_record, action_pack, action_mailer, etc...  Look at the
> dependancies for the rails gem to see them all.
>
> -philip
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On Dec 12, 2007 3:53 PM, Adwin Wijaya
<adwin.wijaya-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Ok, so the source come up with the dependecy right ... how to install
> it from source?
> I might be prefer the source than the gem because I cannot download
> the package using gem (blocked by proxy and i need to install on
> several offline sources)
>
> Tx
>
> Philip Hallstrom wrote:
> > > I just curious to know, why the source of rails (about +10mb) vs
> > > rails.gem (+200kb) is very different ?
> > >
> > > I just want to know how to use the rails from source instead from
the
> > > gem ...
> >
> > The gem is a small stub that requires other gems such as
> > active_record, action_pack, action_mailer, etc...  Look at the
> > dependancies for the rails gem to see them all.
> >
> > -philip
> >
>

-- 
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http://www.frozenplague.net

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You are complicating matters that do not need to be complicated!

Just install it via rubygems.

On Dec 12, 2007 4:13 PM, Ryan Bigg
<radarlistener-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 3:53 PM, Adwin Wijaya
<adwin.wijaya-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ok, so the source come up with the dependecy right ... how to install
> > it from source?
> > I might be prefer the source than the gem because I cannot download
> > the package using gem (blocked by proxy and i need to install on
> > several offline sources)
> >
> > Tx
> >
> > Philip Hallstrom wrote:
> > > > I just curious to know, why the source of rails (about
+10mb) vs
> > > > rails.gem (+200kb) is very different ?
> > > >
> > > > I just want to know how to use the rails from source instead
from
> > the
> > > > gem ...
> > >
> > > The gem is a small stub that requires other gems such as
> > > active_record, action_pack, action_mailer, etc...  Look at the
> > > dependancies for the rails gem to see them all.
> > >
> > > -philip
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Ryan Bigg
> http://www.frozenplague.net



-- 
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what if the computer are offline ... :)
i used to open the gem and check for the dependency and then
downloading the other gem (from internet cafe, i have no internet
access at my boarding house)  For each gems i did checking and
downloading manually from gems.sourceforge.net
And i did installation using gems at home, one by one .... so if the
source has everything in one ... i would be helpfull for me :D

while in the office, i can access the internet but the gems must go
thru the proxy (i read the wiki about gems installation, and they
mention to download apsever from sourceforge.net, but i couldnt
download it since the website was gone .. )

so, that was the condition :)

On Dec 12, 12:43 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> You are complicating matters that do not need to be complicated!
>
> Just install it via rubygems.
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http://support.tigertech.net/freeze-rails

"rake rails:freeze:gems

This will copy the Rails files to the "vendor/rails" directory of your
application. When the Rails framework runs, your application will
first check for the presence of this directory. If it exists, Rails
will load the Rails components from the directory instead of using the
main server copy of Rails. As long as you do not delete these files,
your application will continue to use your "frozen" version of
Rails."

Copy the folder from one app to all the other ones that are offline.

Of course, all your applications should be compatible with the version
you are freezing.

On Dec 11, 10:28 pm, Adwin  Wijaya
<adwin.wij...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> what if the computer are offline ... :)
> i used to open the gem and check for the dependency and then
> downloading the other gem (from internet cafe, i have no internet
> access at my boarding house)  For each gems i did checking and
> downloading manually from gems.sourceforge.net
> And i did installation using gems at home, one by one .... so if the
> source has everything in one ... i would be helpfull for me :D
>
> while in the office, i can access the internet but the gems must go
> thru the proxy (i read the wiki about gems installation, and they
> mention to download apsever from sourceforge.net, but i couldnt
> download it since the website was gone .. )
>
> so, that was the condition :)
>
> On Dec 12, 12:43 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > You are complicating matters that do not need to be complicated!
>
> > Just install it via rubygems.
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i dont think this will solve the problem. because it just freeze the
rails version not installing new one using source :)

On Dec 12, 1:32 pm, "felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> http://support.tigertech.net/freeze-rails
>
> "rake rails:freeze:gems
>
> This will copy the Rails files to the "vendor/rails" directory of
your
> application. When the Rails framework runs, your application will
> first check for the presence of this directory. If it exists, Rails
> will load the Rails components from the directory instead of using the
> main server copy of Rails. As long as you do not delete these files,
> your application will continue to use your "frozen" version of
Rails."
>
> Copy the folder from one app to all the other ones that are offline.
>
> Of course, all your applications should be compatible with the version
> you are freezing.
>
> On Dec 11, 10:28 pm, Adwin  Wijaya
<adwin.wij...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > what if the computer are offline ... :)
> > i used to open the gem and check for the dependency and then
> > downloading the other gem (from internet cafe, i have no internet
> > access at my boarding house)  For each gems i did checking and
> > downloading manually from gems.sourceforge.net
> > And i did installation using gems at home, one by one .... so if the
> > source has everything in one ... i would be helpfull for me :D
>
> > while in the office, i can access the internet but the gems must go
> > thru the proxy (i read the wiki about gems installation, and they
> > mention to download apsever from sourceforge.net, but i couldnt
> > download it since the website was gone .. )
>
> > so, that was the condition :)
>
> > On Dec 12, 12:43 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > You are complicating matters that do not need to be complicated!
>
> > > Just install it via rubygems.
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> I just curious to know, why the source of rails (about +10mb) vs
> rails.gem (+200kb) is very different ?
>
> I just want to know how to use the rails from source instead from the
> gem ...
The gem is a small stub that requires other gems such as 
active_record, action_pack, action_mailer, etc...  Look at the 
dependancies for the rails gem to see them all.

-philip

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I would do slightly different.

Instead of zipping everything, I would zip only the vendor folder, because
thats what he needs.

Then on a "offline" machine, just copy the vendor folder over, check
environment.rb about RAILS_VERSION. If environment.rb requires a version
that is different than the one in the vendor folder I dont think its going
to work.

On Dec 12, 2007 10:58 AM, Philip Hallstrom
<rails-SUcgGwS4C16SUMMaM/qcSw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > i dont think this will solve the problem. because it just freeze the
> > rails version not installing new one using source :)
>
> Yes, it will.
>
> At the internet cafe, create a bare bones rails application (ie. rails
> barebones).  Then run the rake rails:freeze:gems task below.  That will
> copy all of the "source" into vendor/rails.
>
> Now, zip that up and keep it somewhere you can access it.  Copy that to
> all your other machines and rename "barebones" to the name of
your
> application (as well as tweaking config/database.yml, etc.).
>
> Now each rails app will have it''s *own* copy of the
"source".
>
> -philip
>
> >
> > On Dec 12, 1:32 pm,
"felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> http://support.tigertech.net/freeze-rails
> >>
> >> "rake rails:freeze:gems
> >>
> >> This will copy the Rails files to the "vendor/rails"
directory of your
> >> application. When the Rails framework runs, your application will
> >> first check for the presence of this directory. If it exists,
Rails
> >> will load the Rails components from the directory instead of using
the
> >> main server copy of Rails. As long as you do not delete these
files,
> >> your application will continue to use your "frozen"
version of Rails."
> >>
> >> Copy the folder from one app to all the other ones that are
offline.
> >>
> >> Of course, all your applications should be compatible with the
version
> >> you are freezing.
> >>
> >> On Dec 11, 10:28 pm, Adwin  Wijaya
<adwin.wij...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> what if the computer are offline ... :)
> >>> i used to open the gem and check for the dependency and then
> >>> downloading the other gem (from internet cafe, i have no
internet
> >>> access at my boarding house)  For each gems i did checking and
> >>> downloading manually from gems.sourceforge.net
> >>> And i did installation using gems at home, one by one .... so
if the
> >>> source has everything in one ... i would be helpfull for me :D
> >>
> >>> while in the office, i can access the internet but the gems
must go
> >>> thru the proxy (i read the wiki about gems installation, and
they
> >>> mention to download apsever from sourceforge.net, but i
couldnt
> >>> download it since the website was gone .. )
> >>
> >>> so, that was the condition :)
> >>
> >>> On Dec 12, 12:43 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You are complicating matters that do not need to be
complicated!
> >>
> >>>> Just install it via rubygems.
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

-- 
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You can freeze gems or you can freeze edge and specify a tag

rake rails:freeze:edge TAG=''rel_1-2-6''

This is really the appropriate thing to do on a server because it''s
safer.
Your apps are unaffected should you update a gem.


However, I''ve found that the simplest solution is to do this:

On your machine with Internet access:


mkdir /rails
svn co http://dev.rubyonrails.org/svn/rails/tags/rel_2-0-1/ /rails/201
svn co http://dev.rubyonrails.org/svn/rails/tags/rel_1-2-6/ /rails/126
svn co http://dev.rubyonrails.org/svn/rails/tags/rel_1-1-6/ /rails/116

Copy the /rails folder out to your server.

Whenever you deploy a new app, either
1. copy the version of Rails  to your app''s vendor/rails folder

or better,

2. synmlink  /rails/210   to your_app/vendor/rails

Do this in your after_update step in Capistrano and you''re all set :)

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> i dont think this will solve the problem. because it just freeze the
> rails version not installing new one using source :)
Yes, it will.

At the internet cafe, create a bare bones rails application (ie. rails 
barebones).  Then run the rake rails:freeze:gems task below.  That will 
copy all of the "source" into vendor/rails.

Now, zip that up and keep it somewhere you can access it.  Copy that to 
all your other machines and rename "barebones" to the name of your 
application (as well as tweaking config/database.yml, etc.).

Now each rails app will have it''s *own* copy of the "source".

-philip
>
> On Dec 12, 1:32 pm,
"felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<felip...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> http://support.tigertech.net/freeze-rails
>>
>> "rake rails:freeze:gems
>>
>> This will copy the Rails files to the "vendor/rails"
directory of your
>> application. When the Rails framework runs, your application will
>> first check for the presence of this directory. If it exists, Rails
>> will load the Rails components from the directory instead of using the
>> main server copy of Rails. As long as you do not delete these files,
>> your application will continue to use your "frozen" version
of Rails."
>>
>> Copy the folder from one app to all the other ones that are offline.
>>
>> Of course, all your applications should be compatible with the version
>> you are freezing.
>>
>> On Dec 11, 10:28 pm, Adwin  Wijaya
<adwin.wij...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> what if the computer are offline ... :)
>>> i used to open the gem and check for the dependency and then
>>> downloading the other gem (from internet cafe, i have no internet
>>> access at my boarding house)  For each gems i did checking and
>>> downloading manually from gems.sourceforge.net
>>> And i did installation using gems at home, one by one .... so if
the
>>> source has everything in one ... i would be helpfull for me :D
>>
>>> while in the office, i can access the internet but the gems must go
>>> thru the proxy (i read the wiki about gems installation, and they
>>> mention to download apsever from sourceforge.net, but i couldnt
>>> download it since the website was gone .. )
>>
>>> so, that was the condition :)
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 12:43 pm, "Ryan Bigg"
<radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> You are complicating matters that do not need to be
complicated!
>>
>>>> Just install it via rubygems.
> >
>
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