I have to put together a quick proposal for a site that, for now, is set to be PHP. Hopefully we can change that, but I could use some help with PHP best practices. Are their PHP equivalents for Test:Unit, autotest, capistrano...? basically I just need some buzzwords for this meeting before we make them drink the rails Kool Aide. Thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:19 , blinking bear wrote:> I have to put together a quick proposal for a site that, for now, > is set to be PHP. Hopefully we can change that, but I could use > some help with PHP best practices. Are their PHP equivalents for > Test:Unit, autotest, capistrano...? basically I just need some > buzzwords for this meeting before we make them drink the rails Kool > Aide.PHP has PHPUnit and Phing - and as noted on other threads the Symfony framework has some rails flavor to it as well. The difference from my experience as a PHP->Rails convert, is that you can do a lot of the same things in PHP but you have to take a build-it-yourself attitude; whereas Rails, RSpec and Capistrano give you so much more right out of the box. Here''s a funny story for you guys - I''m working on a huge PHP project right now, and I''m using Rails on my macbook (on the sly, of course) to manage changes to the datamodel with migrations. I hope none of those guys read this list. * mitch holds a pinkie up to the corner of his mouth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Aug 2, 1:11 pm, Mitch Pirtle <mi...-FYK0AvAIAVJIdMtHoxk3LkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote:> PHP has PHPUnit and Phing - and as noted on other threads the Symfony > framework has some rails flavor to it as well.Symfony is very Rails-ish but (like you) I wish it had migrations... Its also had its own testing framework (Lime) for some time. There is some built-in support for deployment and syncing to production servers. But Im now looking at using Capistrano to deploy our PHP apps ;-)> Here''s a funny story for you guys - I''m working on a huge PHP project > right now, and I''m using Rails on my macbook (on the sly, of course) > to manage changes to the datamodel with migrations. I hope none of > those guys read this list.Damn, wish I had done that from day one! -- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Capistrano is definitely not a Rails-only solution. You definitely should use it for PHP deployment. Heck, I use it for day-to-day administrative tasks! Rake is the same way. Migrations rock, and you can set Rails to output as schema.sql so no-one''s the wiser :P. Otherwise, good luck. Hope you can at least use Ruby tools if not all of Rails. Jason On 8/2/07, Eno < symbiat-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Aug 2, 1:11 pm, Mitch Pirtle < mi...-FYK0AvAIAVJIdMtHoxk3LkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > PHP has PHPUnit and Phing - and as noted on other threads the Symfony > > framework has some rails flavor to it as well. > > Symfony is very Rails-ish but (like you) I wish it had migrations... > > Its also had its own testing framework (Lime) for some time. > > There is some built-in support for deployment and syncing to > production servers. > > But Im now looking at using Capistrano to deploy our PHP apps ;-) > > > Here''s a funny story for you guys - I''m working on a huge PHP project > > right now, and I''m using Rails on my macbook (on the sly, of course) > > to manage changes to the datamodel with migrations. I hope none of > > those guys read this list. > > Damn, wish I had done that from day one! > > > -- > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thanks for the feedback... we got the project. Now...wanna build it? On 8/2/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskilton-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:> > Capistrano is definitely not a Rails-only solution. You definitely should > use it for PHP deployment. Heck, I use it for day-to-day administrative > tasks! > > Rake is the same way. > > Migrations rock, and you can set Rails to output as schema.sql so no-one''s > the wiser :P. > > Otherwise, good luck. Hope you can at least use Ruby tools if not all of > Rails. > > Jason > > On 8/2/07, Eno < symbiat-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 2, 1:11 pm, Mitch Pirtle < mi...-FYK0AvAIAVJIdMtHoxk3LkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > PHP has PHPUnit and Phing - and as noted on other threads the Symfony > > > framework has some rails flavor to it as well. > > > > Symfony is very Rails-ish but (like you) I wish it had migrations... > > > > Its also had its own testing framework (Lime) for some time. > > > > There is some built-in support for deployment and syncing to > > production servers. > > > > But Im now looking at using Capistrano to deploy our PHP apps ;-) > > > > > Here''s a funny story for you guys - I''m working on a huge PHP project > > > right now, and I''m using Rails on my macbook (on the sly, of course) > > > to manage changes to the datamodel with migrations. I hope none of > > > those guys read this list. > > > > Damn, wish I had done that from day one! > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Just for interest sake. There is PHP on Trax, it is syntacticly equivalent to RoR but using php code.. http://www.phpontrax.com I don''t know how active its dev is? On Aug 8, 7:03 am, "blinking bear" <blinkingb...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Thanks for the feedback... we got the project. Now...wanna build it? > > On 8/2/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskil...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > > > > Capistrano is definitely not a Rails-only solution. You definitely should > > use it for PHP deployment. Heck, I use it for day-to-day administrative > > tasks! > > > Rake is the same way. > > > Migrations rock, and you can set Rails to output as schema.sql so no-one''s > > the wiser :P. > > > Otherwise, good luck. Hope you can at least use Ruby tools if not all of > > Rails. > > > Jason > > > On 8/2/07, Eno < symb...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > On Aug 2, 1:11 pm, Mitch Pirtle < mi...-FYK0AvAIAVJIdMtHoxk3LkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > PHP has PHPUnit and Phing - and as noted on other threads the Symfony > > > > framework has some rails flavor to it as well. > > > > Symfony is very Rails-ish but (like you) I wish it had migrations... > > > > Its also had its own testing framework (Lime) for some time. > > > > There is some built-in support for deployment and syncing to > > > production servers. > > > > But Im now looking at using Capistrano to deploy our PHP apps ;-) > > > > > Here''s a funny story for you guys - I''m working on a huge PHP project > > > > right now, and I''m using Rails on my macbook (on the sly, of course) > > > > to manage changes to the datamodel with migrations. I hope none of > > > > those guys read this list. > > > > Damn, wish I had done that from day one! > > > > ----~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---