Rails - Aug 2007 - Difficult RoR Project...

Hi,

I''m currently working on a data analysis project that involves
analysing and then injecting to my main database data held on a number
of different remote servers. My main RoR application is basically a
web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going to be used to
configure the data analysis on the remote machines.

I''m currently using the settings plugin found at
http://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
(see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it works nicely.

What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby apps located on
the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin and my
activerecord models to work out what data to analyse and then to
inject the results into my database. The scripts will be run
periodically as cron jobs or something similar.

Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR application in
remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers into the RoR
app and the scripts just call these controllers via xmlrpc, soap or as
http requests to deal with data entry etc.?

I''m quite new to projects of this size and so any advice would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Toby


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Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes sense to use
either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the RESTful
approach.

I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful approach. How do you
call a method on the server when using REST from say a script that
runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more sense just to
use XML-RPC for this?

Thanks,
Toby

On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I''m currently working on a data analysis project that involves
> analysing and then injecting to my main database data held on a number
> of different remote servers. My main RoR application is basically a
> web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going to be used to
> configure the data analysis on the remote machines.
>
> I''m currently using the settings plugin found
athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it works nicely.
>
> What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby apps located on
> the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin and my
> activerecord models to work out what data to analyse and then to
> inject the results into my database. The scripts will be run
> periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
>
> Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR application in
> remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers into the RoR
> app and the scripts just call these controllers via xmlrpc, soap or as
> http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
>
> I''m quite new to projects of this size and so any advice would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Toby

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You mean activeresource ?

On 8/2/07, tobyclemson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclemson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes sense to use
> either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the RESTful
> approach.
>
> I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful approach. How do you
> call a method on the server when using REST from say a script that
> runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more sense just to
> use XML-RPC for this?
>
> Thanks,
> Toby
>
> On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I''m currently working on a data analysis project that
involves
> > analysing and then injecting to my main database data held on a number
> > of different remote servers. My main RoR application is basically a
> > web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going to be used to
> > configure the data analysis on the remote machines.
> >
> > I''m currently using the settings plugin found
athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> > (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it works nicely.
> >
> > What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby apps located on
> > the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin and my
> > activerecord models to work out what data to analyse and then to
> > inject the results into my database. The scripts will be run
> > periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
> >
> > Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR application in
> > remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers into the RoR
> > app and the scripts just call these controllers via xmlrpc, soap or as
> > http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
> >
> > I''m quite new to projects of this size and so any advice
would be
> > greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Toby
>
>
> >
>

-- 
Cheers!
- Pratik
http://m.onkey.org

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Could you elaborate? I haven''t used activeresource before...

Thanks,
Toby

On Aug 2, 11:35 am, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> You mean activeresource ?
>
> On 8/2/07, tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes sense to use
> > either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the RESTful
> > approach.
>
> > I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful approach. How do you
> > call a method on the server when using REST from say a script that
> > runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more sense just to
> > use XML-RPC for this?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Toby
>
> > On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I''m currently working on a data analysis project that
involves
> > > analysing and then injecting to my main database data held on a
number
> > > of different remote servers. My main RoR application is basically
a
> > > web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going to be used
to
> > > configure the data analysis on the remote machines.
>
> > > I''m currently using the settings plugin found
athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> > > (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it works nicely.
>
> > > What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby apps
located on
> > > the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin and my
> > > activerecord models to work out what data to analyse and then to
> > > inject the results into my database. The scripts will be run
> > > periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
>
> > > Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR application in
> > > remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers into the
RoR
> > > app and the scripts just call these controllers via xmlrpc, soap
or as
> > > http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
>
> > > I''m quite new to projects of this size and so any advice
would be
> > > greatly appreciated.
>
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Toby
>
> --
> Cheers!
> - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org

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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=pFY&q=rails+activeresource+tutorial&btnG=Search&metahttp://dev.rubyonrails.org/browser/trunk/activeresource/README

On 8/2/07, tobyclemson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclemson-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Could you elaborate? I haven''t used activeresource before...
>
> Thanks,
> Toby
>
> On Aug 2, 11:35 am, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > You mean activeresource ?
> >
> > On 8/2/07, tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes sense to use
> > > either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the RESTful
> > > approach.
> >
> > > I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful approach. How do
you
> > > call a method on the server when using REST from say a script
that
> > > runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more sense just
to
> > > use XML-RPC for this?
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Toby
> >
> > > On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > I''m currently working on a data analysis project
that involves
> > > > analysing and then injecting to my main database data held
on a number
> > > > of different remote servers. My main RoR application is
basically a
> > > > web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going to be
used to
> > > > configure the data analysis on the remote machines.
> >
> > > > I''m currently using the settings plugin found
athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> > > > (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it works
nicely.
> >
> > > > What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby apps
located on
> > > > the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin and my
> > > > activerecord models to work out what data to analyse and
then to
> > > > inject the results into my database. The scripts will be run
> > > > periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
> >
> > > > Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR
application in
> > > > remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers into
the RoR
> > > > app and the scripts just call these controllers via xmlrpc,
soap or as
> > > > http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
> >
> > > > I''m quite new to projects of this size and so any
advice would be
> > > > greatly appreciated.
> >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Toby
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!
> > - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org
>
>
> >
>

-- 
Cheers!
- Pratik
http://m.onkey.org

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Thanks.

On Aug 2, 12:01 pm, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla...http://dev.rubyonrails.org/browser/trunk/activeresource/README
>
> On 8/2/07, tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Could you elaborate? I haven''t used activeresource before...
>
> > Thanks,
> > Toby
>
> > On Aug 2, 11:35 am, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > You mean activeresource ?
>
> > > On 8/2/07, tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > > Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes sense to
use
> > > > either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the
RESTful
> > > > approach.
>
> > > > I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful approach. How
do you
> > > > call a method on the server when using REST from say a
script that
> > > > runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more sense
just to
> > > > use XML-RPC for this?
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Toby
>
> > > > On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > I''m currently working on a data analysis
project that involves
> > > > > analysing and then injecting to my main database data
held on a number
> > > > > of different remote servers. My main RoR application is
basically a
> > > > > web viewer for the analysed data but it is also going
to be used to
> > > > > configure the data analysis on the remote machines.
>
> > > > > I''m currently using the settings plugin found
athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> > > > > (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it
works nicely.
>
> > > > > What I would like to be able to do is have small ruby
apps located on
> > > > > the remote machines that utilise this settings plugin
and my
> > > > > activerecord models to work out what data to analyse
and then to
> > > > > inject the results into my database. The scripts will
be run
> > > > > periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
>
> > > > > Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR
application in
> > > > > remote scripts? Would it be better to build controllers
into the RoR
> > > > > app and the scripts just call these controllers via
xmlrpc, soap or as
> > > > > http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
>
> > > > > I''m quite new to projects of this size and so
any advice would be
> > > > > greatly appreciated.
>
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Toby
>
> > > --
> > > Cheers!
> > > - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org
>
> --
> Cheers!
> - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org

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I''m using rails 1.2. How do I get hold of activeresource? Is there a
plugin? Or do I have to go on edge?

On Aug 2, 12:21 pm,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> On Aug 2, 12:01 pm, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla...
>
> > On 8/2/07, tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > Could you elaborate? I haven''t used activeresource
before...
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Toby
>
> > > On Aug 2, 11:35 am, Pratik
<pratikn...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > You mean activeresource ?
>
> > > > On 8/2/07,
tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > > > Ok, after thinking about it a little more, it makes
sense to use
> > > > > either a web service like XML-RPC or SOAP or take the
RESTful
> > > > > approach.
>
> > > > > I have used XML-RPC before but not the RESTful
approach. How do you
> > > > > call a method on the server when using REST from say a
script that
> > > > > runs on a linux box? Is it possible? Does it make more
sense just to
> > > > > use XML-RPC for this?
>
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Toby
>
> > > > > On Aug 2, 10:47 am,
"tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
<tobyclem...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > I''m currently working on a data analysis
project that involves
> > > > > > analysing and then injecting to my main database
data held on a number
> > > > > > of different remote servers. My main RoR
application is basically a
> > > > > > web viewer for the analysed data but it is also
going to be used to
> > > > > > configure the data analysis on the remote
machines.
>
> > > > > > I''m currently using the settings plugin
found athttp://beautifulpixel.com/search?q=Settings
> > > > > > (see the 4 posts about the settings plugin) and it
works nicely.
>
> > > > > > What I would like to be able to do is have small
ruby apps located on
> > > > > > the remote machines that utilise this settings
plugin and my
> > > > > > activerecord models to work out what data to
analyse and then to
> > > > > > inject the results into my database. The scripts
will be run
> > > > > > periodically as cron jobs or something similar.
>
> > > > > > Is it possible to utilise these aspects of my RoR
application in
> > > > > > remote scripts? Would it be better to build
controllers into the RoR
> > > > > > app and the scripts just call these controllers
via xmlrpc, soap or as
> > > > > > http requests to deal with data entry etc.?
>
> > > > > > I''m quite new to projects of this size
and so any advice would be
> > > > > > greatly appreciated.
>
> > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > > Toby
>
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org
>
> > --
> > Cheers!
> > - Pratikhttp://m.onkey.org

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