Hi all! Currently I am trying to convince a company to make the switch to RoR as I did a couple of years ago. They are quite willing to do so but as they regularly outsource programming tasks they want to know if they still can when they make the switch. I have no experience in this and was wondering if anyone on the list might have. By outsourcing the company means using rentacoder.com. (Are there other alternatives to rentacoder?) With kind regards, Harm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Yes! there are many ROR projects that are outsourced via Rent a Coder, elance and scriptlance etc On Jul 6, 2:26 pm, harm <harmaa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all! > > Currently I am trying to convince a company to make the switch to RoR > as I did a couple of years ago. They are quite willing to do so but as > they regularly outsource programming tasks they want to know if they > still can when they make the switch. I have no experience in this and > was wondering if anyone on the list might have. > By outsourcing the company means using rentacoder.com. (Are there > other alternatives to rentacoder?) > > With kind regards, > Harm--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
harm wrote:> Currently I am trying to convince a company to make the switch to RoR > as I did a couple of years ago. They are quite willing to do so but as > they regularly outsource programming tasks they want to know if they > still can when they make the switch. I have no experience in this and > was wondering if anyone on the list might have. > By outsourcing the company means using rentacoder.com. (Are there > other alternatives to rentacoder?)The best possible way to develop is with programmers onsite. That way you can continuously review their progress, let them ask stupid questions, and generally prevent them from working too hard on unimportant features. Rails makes that process very easy using unit tests. Your best situation would be to hire a programmer with _any_ web experience, and temporarily hire a Rails consultant to train them (>cough< you) to write unit tests as they write the tested code. All these simple practices generally make a very few onsite programmers much _much_ more efficient than a horde of off-site programmers. -- Phlip http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/ "Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)" assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I agree with Phlip that on-site programmers are best. However there are problems which can be easily framed and sent of elsewhere. For example a database import where the end format is known. And I very much agree with you on the best situation. :) And I am trying to obtian exactly that. Thanks for the comments! Harm On Jul 7, 1:44 am, "Phlip" <phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> harmwrote: > > Currently I am trying to convince a company to make the switch to RoR > > as I did a couple of years ago. They are quite willing to do so but as > > they regularly outsource programming tasks they want to know if they > > still can when they make the switch. I have no experience in this and > > was wondering if anyone on the list might have. > > By outsourcing the company means using rentacoder.com. (Are there > > other alternatives to rentacoder?) > > The best possible way to develop is with programmers onsite. That way you > can continuously review their progress, let them ask stupid questions, and > generally prevent them from working too hard on unimportant features. > > Rails makes that process very easy using unit tests. Your best situation > would be to hire a programmer with _any_ web experience, and temporarily > hire a Rails consultant to train them (>cough< you) to write unit tests as > they write the tested code. > > All these simple practices generally make a very few onsite programmers much > _much_ more efficient than a horde of off-site programmers. > > -- > Phlip > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/ > "Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)" > assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 09 Jul 2007, at 13:43, harm wrote:> I agree with Phlip that on-site programmers are best. However there > are problems which can be easily framed and sent of elsewhere. For > example a database import where the end format is known. > And I very much agree with you on the best situation. :) And I am > trying to obtian exactly that.Although I must say that a good project manager at the company you''re outsourcing to can make offsite outsourcing a real joy. My company has outsourced a Rails project to Lunar Logic Polska and Paul Klipp has done a fantastic job at managing the project, our customer was very happy with the application. On the other hand, some projects demand a closer interaction between the developers and onsite developers can become a necessity (although they tend to be more expensive). Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---