http://gears.google.com/ A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local server, a database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with Rails do you think? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
YES! we just need a Ruby finding of google gears as we have for prototype in rails. Who will need Joyents Slingshot. Everything is here available in browser offline and with syncing capabilities. Soon we will be using Basecamp offline :) Thanks Google :) On May 31, 6:00 am, Hugh Evans <hughro...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> http://gears.google.com/ > > A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local server, a > database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with Rails > do you think?--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Funny, I''ve been investigating Slingshot all day. I was interested in the Gears annoucement as well, but all that garbage with the data layer looks like a maaaajor pain in the ass. Have you all read this? http://code.google.com/apis/gears/architecture.html ...I have a headache. On 5/31/07, Shan <shanlalit-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > YES! we just need a Ruby finding of google gears as we have for > prototype in rails. > Who will need Joyents Slingshot. Everything is here available in > browser offline and with syncing capabilities. > > Soon we will be using Basecamp offline :) > > Thanks Google :) > > On May 31, 6:00 am, Hugh Evans <hughro...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > http://gears.google.com/ > > > > A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local server, a > > database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with Rails > > do you think? > > > > >-- -------------------- seth at subimage interactive ----- http://www.subimage.com http://sublog.subimage.com ----- http://www.getcashboard.com http://dev.subimage.com/projects/substruct --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Slingshot includes your Rails application, Google Gears doesn''t, so there''s quite an intrinsic difference. Google Gears might hold up for the Google apps (which rely mostly on clientside code, except for the data itself), but for a web app with lots of serverside logic it''s probably not going to be sufficient. On 31 May 2007, at 09:42, Shan wrote:> YES! we just need a Ruby finding of google gears as we have for > prototype in rails. > Who will need Joyents Slingshot. Everything is here available in > browser offline and with syncing capabilities. > > Soon we will be using Basecamp offline :) > > Thanks Google :) > > On May 31, 6:00 am, Hugh Evans <hughro...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> http://gears.google.com/ >> >> A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local >> server, a >> database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with >> Rails >> do you think?Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Exxxxxactly. But is anyone even using Slingshot in production, or at all? It looks half-baked at the moment. I''m investigating it''s use for inclusion in some of our offerings. On 5/31/07, Peter De Berdt <peter.de.berdt-LPO8gxj9N8aZIoH1IeqzKA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Slingshot includes your Rails application, Google Gears doesn''t, so > there''s quite an intrinsic difference. Google Gears might hold up for the > Google apps (which rely mostly on clientside code, except for the data > itself), but for a web app with lots of serverside logic it''s probably not > going to be sufficient. > > On 31 May 2007, at 09:42, Shan wrote: > > YES! we just need a Ruby finding of google gears as we have for > > prototype in rails. > > Who will need Joyents Slingshot. Everything is here available in > > browser offline and with syncing capabilities. > > > Soon we will be using Basecamp offline :) > > > Thanks Google :) > > > On May 31, 6:00 am, Hugh Evans <hughro...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > http://gears.google.com/ > > > A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local server, a > > database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with Rails > > do you think? > > > Best regards > > > Peter De Berdt > > > > >-- -------------------- seth at subimage interactive ----- http://sublog.subimage.com ----- Cashboard - Estimates, invoices, and time tracking software - for free! http://www.getcashboard.com ----- Substruct - Open source RoR e-commerce software. http://dev.subimage.com/projects/substruct --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The Google Gears concept feels like a way to get "client/server" like functionality by distributing data and/or logic between the client and server. Because you can''t have a reliable network connection (as in a pure C/S app.), you do the next best thing which is to copy the business/data layers and then have good sync. technology. Does that make sense? What I don''t understand is: 1) Is this just a scheme for distributing the data and they''re not addressing how to handle the business logic? 2) If the logic distribution is somehow implied, then does this mean that you have one or two copies of the "data layer"/"smart business logic"/whatever you want to call it? Like is it Javascript on the server and then you download/sync. it to get equivalent offline functionality? I need to take a look at the sample apps. and see what they''ve done. Wes -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
what about the concept of including Gears support within the prototype layer? Would this be the ultimate way to get support for Rails? On 6/1/07, Wes Gamble <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > The Google Gears concept feels like a way to get "client/server" like > functionality by distributing data and/or logic between the client and > server. Because you can''t have a reliable network connection (as in a > pure C/S app.), you do the next best thing which is to copy the > business/data layers and then have good sync. technology. Does that > make sense? > > What I don''t understand is: > > 1) Is this just a scheme for distributing the data and they''re not > addressing how to handle the business logic? > > 2) If the logic distribution is somehow implied, then does this mean > that you have one or two copies of the "data layer"/"smart business > logic"/whatever you want to call it? Like is it Javascript on the > server and then you download/sync. it to get equivalent offline > functionality? > > I need to take a look at the sample apps. and see what they''ve done. > > Wes > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
This sort of thing is going to be very very useful. If I remember correctly, Joyent (www.joyent.com)has already developed something like this specific for Rails apps. No affiliation - I just remember spotting it in passing and thinking that would be cool on an iPhone... Cheers, Erik Le 31 mai 07 à 03:00, Hugh Evans a écrit :> > http://gears.google.com/ > > A cross platform IE and Firefox plugin that includes a local server, a > database (sqlite) and a synchroniser. Does it have a future with Rails > do you think?--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On May 31, 4:22 pm, Wes Gamble <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: [...]> 2) If the logic distribution is somehow implied, then does this mean > that you have one or two copies of the "data layer"/"smart business > logic"/whatever you want to call it? Like is it Javascript on the > server and then you download/sync. it to get equivalent offline > functionality?[...] If you''re using google gears, why have any server side business logic? Seems advantageous to let the client deal with that. -Thufir --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---