Hi All, needed some direction for a newbie to RoR. I have done work in Java, .net and perl, and really prefer perl and java over .net, now we are we are looking to start building a financial trading application, most of the team wants to go with .net while I am trying to build the case with Ruby. Some of our classes have been developed in delphi7. Would I be able to use RoR on the front end of this application? and pass the information back to say a soap-enabled web services server... so the idea is: ruby on the front --> web services --> deplhi classes --> DB or should I just do this: RoR --> Db also, is RoR n-tiered? from what i have read so far, it is much like PHP..ie 2 tiered unless we do some extra work? thanks all, appreciate the help! Moti -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Mohtashim Ahmed wrote:> Hi All, > > needed some direction for a newbie to RoR. I have done work in Java, > .net and perl, and really prefer perl and java over .net, now we are we > are looking to start building a financial trading application, most of > the team wants to go with .net while I am trying to build the case with > Ruby. Some of our classes have been developed in delphi7. Would I be > able to use RoR on the front end of this application? and pass the > information back to say a soap-enabled web services server... so the > idea is: > > ruby on the front --> web services --> deplhi classes --> DB > > or should I just do this: > > RoR --> Db > > also, is RoR n-tiered? from what i have read so far, it is much like > PHP..ie 2 tiered unless we do some extra work? > > thanks all, appreciate the help! > MotiIt would be much easy to do it RoR --> Db I don''t know about how to use it with web services :) No, RoR is not the same like PHP, or I had kept myself coding PHP if they were :D -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
RoR is very simple to set up as n-tiered... it has things built in out of the box for doing so, and for the few things that can''t be done easily with out of the box Rails, there are plugins for. And, yes, it is extremely simple to do what you said with RoR -> web service -> Delphi -> DB. A lot of people at larger companies who can''t afford to go RoR wholeheartedly to begin with do it via this step... set up web service front ends to all of your current code, and put an RoR face on it... then, as your other developers become more and more familiary with RoR, and as you begin to see the obvious advantages of using it, you can refactor your code to become more of a Ror -> DB situation. On 4/6/07, Jamal Soueidan <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Mohtashim Ahmed wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > needed some direction for a newbie to RoR. I have done work in Java, > > .net and perl, and really prefer perl and java over .net, now we are we > > are looking to start building a financial trading application, most of > > the team wants to go with .net while I am trying to build the case with > > Ruby. Some of our classes have been developed in delphi7. Would I be > > able to use RoR on the front end of this application? and pass the > > information back to say a soap-enabled web services server... so the > > idea is: > > > > ruby on the front --> web services --> deplhi classes --> DB > > > > or should I just do this: > > > > RoR --> Db > > > > also, is RoR n-tiered? from what i have read so far, it is much like > > PHP..ie 2 tiered unless we do some extra work? > > > > thanks all, appreciate the help! > > Moti > > It would be much easy to do it > > RoR --> Db > > I don''t know about how to use it with web services :) > > No, RoR is not the same like PHP, or I had kept myself coding PHP if > they were :D > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Luke Ivers wrote:> RoR is very simple to set up as n-tiered... it has things built in out > of > the box for doing so, and for the few things that can''t be done easily > with > out of the box Rails, there are plugins for. > > And, yes, it is extremely simple to do what you said with RoR -> web > service > -> Delphi -> DB. > A lot of people at larger companies who can''t afford to go RoR > wholeheartedly to begin with do it via this step... set up web service > front > ends to all of your current code, and put an RoR face on it... then, as > your > other developers become more and more familiary with RoR, and as you > begin > to see the obvious advantages of using it, you can refactor your code to > become more of a Ror -> DB situation.thanks for the help guys.... any idea where i can find information on making RoR ntiered? but if i make it 3 tiered say, then i cannot use activerecord..or can I? thanks! M -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Mohtashim Ahmed wrote:> thanks for the help guys.... any idea where i can find information on > making RoR ntiered? but if i make it 3 tiered say, then i cannot use > activerecord..or can I? > thanks! > MRails *IS* n-tiered already. ActiveRecord is the data access layer. The model classes you created are the business objects, and the controllers and views are the interface (with some cross over into the business objects). -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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