Hi all, i''m using ActiveForm for some validations without a database. the problem is, when i start my application, I get this error: undefined method `save!'' for class `ActiveForm'' but if i refresh my browser, the application starts normally. im guessing it''s because the ActiveForm class uses some things from active record that haven''t been require''d by rails yet? if that is the case, is there any way i can get around this? the line in question seems to be: include ActiveRecord::Validations indeed, if i do: require ''rubygems'' ; require ''active_record'' ; include ActiveRecord::Validations I get the below barf. Any ideas what to do? cheers. NameError: undefined method `save'' for class `Object'' from /usr//lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.14.4/lib/active_record/validations.rb:216:in `alias_method'' from /usr//lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.14.4/lib/active_record/validations.rb:216:in `append_features'' from /usr//lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.14.4/lib/active_record/validations.rb:215:in `class_eval'' from /usr//lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.14.4/lib/active_record/validations.rb:215:in `append_features'' from (irb):4:in `include'' from (irb):4 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---