I dont know about you guys but i find the rails wiki and other online ressources (technoweenie''s website) very hard to find the info i am looking from. I thought they ought to be grouped and categorized. like say you want to know more about models, there sould be a model category and in this model sub categories and then articles/tips/code snippets/error explanations in this subcategory. Take for example wikipedia, imagine if they show their data like they would now in wiki.rubyonrails.org it would be completely unusable. or am i missing something ? how do i guys find the correct info ? say you have an error? i find myself googling page after page and tracking down the error always takes me too much time. -- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I agree with your Heri, There is alot of useful information out there for rails but finding things in the wiki is really quite hard. Heri R> wrote:> I dont know about you guys but i find the rails wiki and other online > ressources (technoweenie''s website) very hard to find the info i am looking > from. > > I thought they ought to be grouped and categorized. like say you want to > know more about models, there sould be a model category and in this model > sub categories and then articles/tips/code snippets/error explanations in > this subcategory. > > Take for example wikipedia, imagine if they show their data like they would > now in wiki.rubyonrails.org it would be completely unusable. > > or am i missing something ? how do i guys find the correct info ? say you > have an error? i find myself googling page after page and tracking down the > error always takes me too much time. > > -- > Heri R. > http://sprinj.com > > ------=_Part_53584_2395350.1162568259514 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > X-Google-AttachSize: 875 > > I dont know about you guys but i find the rails wiki and other online ressources (technoweenie''s website) very hard to find the info i am looking from.<br clear="all"><br>I thought they ought to be grouped and categorized. like say you want to know more about models, there sould be a model category and in this model sub categories and then articles/tips/code snippets/error explanations in this subcategory. > <br><br>Take for example wikipedia, imagine if they show their data like they would now in <a href="http://wiki.rubyonrails.org">wiki.rubyonrails.org</a> it would be completely unusable.<br><br>or am i missing something ? how do i guys find the correct info ? say you have an error? i find myself googling page after page and tracking down the error always takes me too much time. > <br><br>-- <br>Heri R.<br><a href="http://sprinj.com">http://sprinj.com</a> > > ------=_Part_53584_2395350.1162568259514----~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
With all of the rails-related (and mostly valid) hype around efficiency and usability, when I started as a newbee, I chuckled everytime I visited the wiki. That being said, the caboo.se doc project looks pretty hot. Compared with other open source projects, the quantity and quality of rails information on personal blogs is an amazing phenomenon. I mean, it''s not a very DRY way to learn a new language/framework, but every rails newbee by necessity a) improves their google skills, b) knows all the experienced developers by name and blog theme, and c) has become convinced one way or another that they should blog about their experiences. A wonderful thing compared with something like TYPO3 (which I also work with) which has such an (overall) amazing deficiency of available documentation and yet still has such a loyal userbase. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
sudara wrote:> Compared with other open source projects, the quantity and quality of > rails information on personal blogs is an amazing phenomenon. I mean, > it''s not a very DRY way to learn a new language/framework, but every > rails newbee by necessity a) improves their google skills, b) knows all > the experienced developers by name and blog theme, and c) has become > convinced one way or another that they should blog about their > experiences. A wonderful thing compared with something like TYPO3 > (which I also work with) which has such an (overall) amazing deficiency > of available documentation and yet still has such a loyal userbase.The great thing about writing a framework like Rails very rapidly is you save money on professional documentors. The documentation will get scattered into thousands of Web 2.0 forums and stuff. But because the root documentation site is a Wiki, y''all could start fixing it yourself, right? The great thing about naivete is you can add to the parts that you didn''t understand. You can also transfer anything you Google for to the wiki. That arranges topics by theme, and improves the Google pagerank, too. Finally, I have actually beat a tip or two out of this: http://www.google.com/codesearch -- Phlip --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
One problem I have with the rails wiki is that sometime it gets infested with spam. I have to go back in time several revisions to get what I want and then clean it up. Its annoying. I think there should be a way to prevent drive-by spamming On Nov 3, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Heri R> wrote:> I dont know about you guys but i find the rails wiki and other > online ressources (technoweenie''s website) very hard to find the > info i am looking from. > > I thought they ought to be grouped and categorized. like say you > want to know more about models, there sould be a model category and > in this model sub categories and then articles/tips/code snippets/ > error explanations in this subcategory. > > Take for example wikipedia, imagine if they show their data like > they would now in wiki.rubyonrails.org it would be completely > unusable. > > or am i missing something ? how do i guys find the correct info ? > say you have an error? i find myself googling page after page and > tracking down the error always takes me too much time. > > -- > Heri R. > http://sprinj.com > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Sam G wrote:> Its annoying. I think there should be a way > to prevent drive-by spammingI don''t know if it''s ''preventable'' without doing damage to the intended usage. But I have been thinking about the possibility of developing an administrative capability for Rails wikies that makes it easy to identify and remove spam updates. Anybody interested in talking about it? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Phlip wrote:> sudara wrote: >> > But because the root documentation site is a Wiki, y''all could start > fixing it yourself, right? The great thing about naivete is you can add > to the parts that you didn''t understand. You can also transfer anything > you Google for to the wiki. That arranges topics by theme, and improves > the Google pagerank, too. >Which documentation site are you referring to? PS. The decision to move the rails list to Google groups was great, the presentation is so user friendly. Tony --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---