Zed''s rockin'' away on a new project: http://rfuzz.rubyforge.org/index.html From what I can tell, fuzzing is like unleashing thousands of monkeys with keyboards on your website and seeing if anything breaks. Has anybody tried RFuzz? What''s sorts of things has it found? Thanks, Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 10/23/06, Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> ... like unleashing thousands of monkeys with keyboards on your website ...Do we really need another anti-IE flamefest? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Zed A. Shaw wrote:> Eh? Not sure if you were joking, but I''m pretty sure Joe wasn''t bashing > IE.My impression was that JDL was implying that IE users are monkeys. ;P Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 10/23/06, Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Zed A. Shaw wrote: > > > Eh? Not sure if you were joking, but I''m pretty sure Joe wasn''t bashing > > IE. > > My impression was that JDL was implying that IE users are monkeys. ;P > > JoeAye. It was just lame humor posted during a moment of boredom. Based on this thread, I''ve been checking out fuzz and it looks pretty cool. -- James --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:52:26 +0200 Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Zed''s rockin'' away on a new project: > http://rfuzz.rubyforge.org/index.html > > From what I can tell, fuzzing is like unleashing thousands of monkeys > with keyboards on your website and seeing if anything breaks. Has > anybody tried RFuzz? What''s sorts of things has it found?Hehe, yeah Joe, it''s pretty capable already, but could use some more use in the fuzzing area. Take a look in the examples directory. There''s a Mongrel test suite that uses rspec and rant to fire up a Rails app at ~/projects/testapp and then tries to destroy it and validate certain things. All the tests in that suite came from bugs that were found which I needed fuzzing to prevent in future releases. Next, take a look at the examples dir for various ways it''s used as a client and as a fuzzing lib. Then, try breaking some stuff and let me know what happens. Tons of fun. -- Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu http://www.zedshaw.com/ http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/ http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:50 -0500 JDL <jamesludlow-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On 10/23/06, Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > ... like unleashing thousands of monkeys with keyboards on your website ... > > Do we really need another anti-IE flamefest? >Eh? Not sure if you were joking, but I''m pretty sure Joe wasn''t bashing IE. It''s just a tool for breaking all sorts of stuff. I''ll tell ya, Firefox sure could use some Fuzz as well in the javascript domain. Safari could use some fuzzing tests in how it handles the HTTP protocol as well. Everything is suspect really. Mostly because writing software really sucks (and no, Haskell don''t fix it :-). -- Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu http://www.zedshaw.com/ http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/ http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
>>> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifuok, Joe and Zed Shaw is the same guy and he replies emails by his other half ? is there a transformation involved like in dr jekyll and mr hyde? :-) -- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
What is Rails, is it like a simple case tool? Can I use VB to write the code instead of that other language? Thanks The Grand Master --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:56:39 -0400 "Heri R>" <heri.yamiyama-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> >>> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu > > ok, Joe and Zed Shaw is the same guy and he replies emails by his other half > ? > > is there a transformation involved like in dr jekyll and mr hyde? :-)When you become a MUDCRAP Certified Engineer, you too will be able to pretend to be me so well that others confuse you with me and all my powerful glory. -- Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu http://www.zedshaw.com/ http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/ http://www.lingr.com/room/3yXhqKbfPy8 -- Come get help. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:22, Master Programmer wrote:> What is Rails, is it like a simple case tool? Can I use VB to write > the > code instead of that other language?You shouldn''t be posting this message to this mailing list, but here are some links that might clear things up a bit: • http://www.rubyonrails.org/ • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails ... and no, you can''t use VB to write your code, do your dishes, mow your lawn and make your coffee :-) If you want a VB clone, have a look at REALbasic. Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Heri R> wrote:>>>> Zed A. Shaw, MUDCRAP-CE Master Black Belt Sifu > > ok, Joe and Zed Shaw is the same guy and he replies emails by his other > half > ? > > is there a transformation involved like in dr jekyll and mr hyde? :-)This is FANTASTIC -- it must mean I''m getting closer to the black belt level of MUDCRAP-CE!!! Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Ahh, ok, thats a shame. I wanted to use VB so that it would be robust. Thanks Anyway The Grand Master Peter De Berdt wrote:> On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:22, Master Programmer wrote: > > > What is Rails, is it like a simple case tool? Can I use VB to write > > the > > code instead of that other language? > > You shouldn''t be posting this message to this mailing list, but here > are some links that might clear things up a bit: > > · http://www.rubyonrails.org/ > · http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails > > ... and no, you can''t use VB to write your code, do your dishes, mow > your lawn and make your coffee :-) If you want a VB clone, have a > look at REALbasic. > > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt > > > --Apple-Mail-6--1035526310 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Google-AttachSize: 1621 > > <HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:22, Master Programmer wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What is Rails, is it like a simple case tool? Can I use VB to write the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">code instead of that other language?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>You shouldn''t be posting this message to this mailing list, but here are some links that might clear things up a bit:<BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>· <A href="http://www.rubyonrails.org">http://www.rubyonrails.org</A>/</DIV><DIV>· <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>... and no, you can''t use VB to write your code, do your dishes, mow your lawn and make your coffee :-) If you want a VB clone, have a look at REALbasic.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Best regards</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Peter De Berdt</FONT></P> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML> > --Apple-Mail-6--1035526310----~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---