Hi all when you desing .rhtml pages, what tool do you use? I usually create a regular page in dreamweaver and customize it with RoR scripts. Is there any other tool that allows to drag/drop html controls, inside rhtml pages? thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
ive been searching for ways. it would be awesome if i could create a site in iweb and just drop in ruby code blocks. right now, i think the best was is just create my view in dreamweaver and export the css sheet into the styles directory. Jose Pepe wrote:> Hi all > > when you desing .rhtml pages, what tool do you use? > > I usually create a regular page in dreamweaver and customize it with RoR > scripts. Is there any other tool that allows to drag/drop html > controls, inside rhtml pages? > > thanks-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''ve been using TextMate and writing everything by hand... :dunno: On 10/22/06, bbqPlate <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > > > ive been searching for ways. it would be awesome if i could create a > site in iweb and just drop in ruby code blocks. > > right now, i think the best was is just create my view in dreamweaver > and export the css sheet into the styles directory. > > > > Jose Pepe wrote: > > Hi all > > > > when you desing .rhtml pages, what tool do you use? > > > > I usually create a regular page in dreamweaver and customize it with RoR > > scripts. Is there any other tool that allows to drag/drop html > > controls, inside rhtml pages? > > > > thanks > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- Chris Stewart compiledmonkey-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org http://compiledmonkey.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 23 Oct 2006, at 02:48, bbqPlate wrote:> ive been searching for ways. it would be awesome if i could create a > site in iweb and just drop in ruby code blocks.By "awesome" do you mean "great if I could cripple my user''s with hundreds of kilobytes of crufty HTML"?> right now, i think the best was is just create my view in dreamweaver > and export the css sheet into the styles directory.Can I suggest learning HTML and CSS and doing it by hand like some of the rest of us? Just my personal preference mind, but if you care about crafting applications instead of churning them out like you''re a sausage factory, it''s the only way. -- Paul Robinson http://vagueware.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Well, if you invert the question slightly, there''s Markaby, which lets you write plain old Ruby and get html, if that works for you. Ron --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
yea, i know your right. i find that all the time spent learning how to use these editors, it will take less time creating a site after learning the foundation of html and css. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi all If I understand well, there is not any tool that allows to desing rhtml pages. a tool that uses drag and drop capabilities (asp.net/vb.net) , or like in dreamweaver inserting controls with the menu options. Could dreamweaver manage .rhtml pages directly? thanks -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
hi, it''s like asking is there a tool to design php pages and can dreamweaver manage .rhtml pages if you want an editor you could use RadRails On 10/24/06, Jose Pepe <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Hi all > > If I understand well, there is not any tool that allows to desing rhtml > pages. a tool that uses drag and drop capabilities (asp.net/vb.net) , or > like in dreamweaver inserting controls with the menu options. > > Could dreamweaver manage .rhtml pages directly? > > thanks > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Heri, I am looking for more than a simple editor, I would like to know if thre is something similar to ASP.Net/VB.Net available you can desing PHP pages wth dreamweaver, the extension php is available. IS the .rhtnl extension available too? thank you R> wrote:> hi, > it''s like asking is there a tool to design php pages and can dreamweaver > manage .rhtml pages > if you want an editor you could use RadRails > > On 10/24/06, Jose Pepe <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> thanks >> >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> >> > >> > > > -- > Heri R. > http://sprinj.com-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
yes you could design ror pages with dreamweaver. but for me you are mixing 2 things, RoR is a programming framework, it does not involve the design process. the best way to design pages would be your standard favorite way (photoshop, notepad, dreamweaver, fireworks --- whatever...) and when the html and CSS are ready and tested, you send them to the RoR programmer. On 10/25/06, Jose Pepe <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Heri, > > I am looking for more than a simple editor, I would like to know if thre > is something similar to ASP.Net/VB.Net available > > you can desing PHP pages wth dreamweaver, the extension php is > available. IS the .rhtnl extension available too? > > thank you > > > > R> wrote: > > hi, > > it''s like asking is there a tool to design php pages and can dreamweaver > > manage .rhtml pages > > if you want an editor you could use RadRails > > > > On 10/24/06, Jose Pepe <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> thanks > >> > >> -- > >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > Heri R. > > http://sprinj.com > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hello Heri,> yes you could design ror pages with dreamweaver. but for me you > are mixing 2 things, RoR is a programming framework, it does not > involve the design process. > > the best way to design pages would be your standard favorite way > (photoshop, notepad, dreamweaver, fireworks --- whatever...) and > when the html and CSS are ready and tested, you send them to the > RoR programmer.Another possible solution consists in using another template system than ERb. I haven't tried it yet but it looks interesting : MasterView http://masterview.org/ There is also the Liquid templase system, but I don't know if there is a HTML editor that can deal with it. http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/2005/11/06/liquid-templates-announced/ http://blog.leetsoft.com/2005/11/5/introducing-liquid -- Jean-François. -- À la renverse. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
hi j-f what i would really like for a RoR design editor would be a CSS editor on the right side and the rendered webpage to the left that shows DIV ids and code in grey.... or something like that.... On 10/26/06, Jean-François <jf.web3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hello Heri, > > > yes you could design ror pages with dreamweaver. but for me you > > are mixing 2 things, RoR is a programming framework, it does not > > involve the design process. > > > > the best way to design pages would be your standard favorite way > > (photoshop, notepad, dreamweaver, fireworks --- whatever...) and > > when the html and CSS are ready and tested, you send them to the > > RoR programmer. > > Another possible solution consists in using another template system > than ERb. I haven''t tried it yet but it looks interesting : MasterView > http://masterview.org/ > > There is also the Liquid templase system, but I don''t know if there > is a HTML editor that can deal with it. > > http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/2005/11/06/liquid-templates-announced/ > http://blog.leetsoft.com/2005/11/5/introducing-liquid > > -- Jean-François. > > -- > À la renverse. > > > >-- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
What I am looking for is a tool that allows me to create views with .rhtml extension, simply by draging and droping controls and when I double click on the control it goes to the code behind to add RoR code. ASP.Net is also base on a develoment framework, and it allows to drag/drop controls, and enter code behind code. Heri R> wrote:> hi j-f > > what i would really like for a RoR design editor would be a CSS editor > on > the right side and the rendered webpage to the left that shows DIV ids > and > code in grey.... or something like that.... > > On 10/26/06, Jean-François <jf.web3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> > RoR programmer. >> >> -- Jean-François. >> >> -- >> À la renverse. >> >> > >> > > > -- > Heri R. > http://sprinj.com-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
ah ok jose, controls are called helpers in RoR. code behind is called controllers also RoR has a very different philosophy from .NET .NET has a very wide array of libraries for programmers but RoR on the other hand wants to be as lean possible. but i agree a drag and drop RoR editor might be handy On 10/26/06, Jose Pepe <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > > What I am looking for is a tool that allows me to create views with > .rhtml extension, simply by draging and droping controls and when I > double click on the control it goes to the code behind to add RoR code. > > ASP.Net is also base on a develoment framework, and it allows to > drag/drop controls, and enter code behind code. > > > Heri R> wrote: > > hi j-f > > > > what i would really like for a RoR design editor would be a CSS editor > > on > > the right side and the rendered webpage to the left that shows DIV ids > > and > > code in grey.... or something like that.... > > > > On 10/26/06, Jean-François <jf.web3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> > RoR programmer. > >> > >> -- Jean-François. > >> > >> -- > >> À la renverse. > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > Heri R. > > http://sprinj.com > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- Heri R. http://sprinj.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Jose Pepe wrote:> Hi all > > when you desing .rhtml pages, what tool do you use? > > I usually create a regular page in dreamweaver and customize it with RoR > scripts. Is there any other tool that allows to drag/drop html > controls, inside rhtml pages? > > thanksJose, I know html and CSS and I love the speed I get with dreamweaver. It''s SO much faster to simply drag in a table, tweak it with the pref panel and then save and go back to TextMate. Same with CSS. I can edit CSS styles/properties much faster in DW and then copy/paste the code into its own .css file. (yes, I know DW can create CSS in its own file, but I think it''s a pain to set up) I love the speed that TM bundles give me, and can''t think of trying to work with rails without ''em, but they''re no way near as fast as doing certain things in DW. As for whether DW can read/work with .rhtml files, yes. There''s a DW extenstion called RubyWeaver from http://www.ridingtheclutch.com that can recognize ruby code. It can color code it much like it color codes php code. It''s not as pretty or as functional as TM, but it''s nice to be able to open an .rhtml file in DW , drag stuff into it, edit quickly, then get out. Prior to the RubyWeaver extension, I couldn''t really work on any ruby files in DW. It all boils down to "do you understand the code and can you do it by hand?" If yes, then finding tools that make dif aspects of the job easier/faster is a plus in my book. Yes, I can create a site strictly in notepad. Would I ever want to? Hell no. Thinking that someone has to use one tool (or just the tools that you use) to create a site is like saying you have to build a house with only a hammer. Find the right tool(s) for the job that allows you to be the most creative, productive and agile. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Randy, I am currently using Eclipse and RADRails! I hope that some day Eclipse Visual Editor will be available also in the RADRails area. Like that I will be able to build forms as if I was creating a java SWT form. thanks Walker wrote:> Jose Pepe wrote: >> Hi all >> >> when you desing .rhtml pages, what tool do you use? >> >> I usually create a regular page in dreamweaver and customize it with RoR >> scripts. Is there any other tool that allows to drag/drop html >> controls, inside rhtml pages? >> >> thanks > > Jose, > > I know html and CSS and I love the speed I get with dreamweaver. It''s > SO much faster to simply drag in a table, tweak it with the pref panel > and then save and go back to TextMate. Same with CSS. I can edit CSS > styles/properties much faster in DW and then copy/paste the code into > its own .css file. (yes, I know DW can create CSS in its own file, but > I think it''s a pain to set up) I love the speed that TM bundles give > me, and can''t think of trying to work with rails without ''em, but > they''re no way near as fast as doing certain things in DW. > > As for whether DW can read/work with .rhtml files, yes. There''s a DW > extenstion called RubyWeaver from http://www.ridingtheclutch.com that > can recognize ruby code. It can color code it much like it color codes > php code. It''s not as pretty or as functional as TM, but it''s nice to > be able to open an .rhtml file in DW , drag stuff into it, edit quickly, > then get out. Prior to the RubyWeaver extension, I couldn''t really work > on any ruby files in DW. > > It all boils down to "do you understand the code and can you do it by > hand?" If yes, then finding tools that make dif aspects of the job > easier/faster is a plus in my book. Yes, I can create a site strictly > in notepad. Would I ever want to? Hell no. Thinking that someone has > to use one tool (or just the tools that you use) to create a site is > like saying you have to build a house with only a hammer. Find the > right tool(s) for the job that allows you to be the most creative, > productive and agile.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I''m no master coder, but I just keep Firefox and Radrails open at the same time. Then I edit the CSS and hit refresh. Then once I like it, I open IE and see how its broken! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Taylor Strait wrote:>Then once I like it, I open IE and see how its broken!SO TRUE! I''ve never seen radrails. I''ll have to check it out. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---