Rails - Oct 2006 - has_many sample code for maintaining the child records?

Hi all,

 

I need some guidance as to how to get all of the pieces working for
managing a set of children records.

 

In my case, the parent model is Users.  The child model is Referrer
codes.  One user can create many referrer codes and hand them out.  If
someone signs up to the site with one of their referrer codes, they get
credit for that new user.  So, I need a controller with a set of actions
where they can maintain their referral codes.

 

What is needed is a fairly simple CRUD, just limited to that user:

 

I need to list just the records for the user.

I need the user to be able to add/change/delete their own codes.

 

Anyone have a link to a simple tutorial to show how to manage the
children records?   I''d like it to be plain old html, no AJAX stuff
yet,
as I''d like to get a full understanding of basic rails, and you know,
walk before I run.

 

Many Thanks!

Regards,
Rich

 



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>Hi all,
>I need some guidance as to how to get all of the pieces working for
>managing a set of children records.
 
>In my case, the parent model is Users.  The child model is Referrer codes. 
>One user can create many referrer codes and hand them out.  If someone
>signs up to the site with one of their referrer codes, they get credit for
>that new user.  So, I need a controller with a set of actions where they
>can maintain their referral codes.
>What is needed is a fairly simple CRUD, just limited to that user:
>I need to list just the records for the user.
>I need the user to be able to add/change/delete their own codes.
>Anyone have a link to a simple tutorial to show how to manage the children
>records?   I''d like it to be plain old html, no AJAX stuff yet, as
I''d like >to get a full understanding of basic rails, and you know,
walk before I >run.
>Many Thanks!
>Regards,
>Rich
Am I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many questions here
don''t get answered...

Again, Thanks.

Regards,
Rich

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Hi!

On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >I need some guidance as to how to get all of the pieces working for
>managing a set of children records.
>
> >In my case, the parent model is Users.  The child model is Referrer
codes.  >One user can create many referrer codes and hand them out.  If
someone >signs up to the site with one of their referrer codes, they get
credit for >that new user.  So, I need a controller with a set of actions
where they >can maintain their referral codes.
> >What is needed is a fairly simple CRUD, just limited to that user:
> >I need to list just the records for the user.
> >I need the user to be able to add/change/delete their own codes.
> >Anyone have a link to a simple tutorial to show how to manage the
children >records?   I''d like it to be plain old html, no AJAX stuff
yet, as I''d like >to get a full understanding of basic rails, and
you know, walk before I >run.
> >Many Thanks!
> >Regards,
> >RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many questions here
don''t get answered...
Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of unanswered
questios.

Anyway.  About your question.

If you have the "has_many" relationship in place, you can access the
collection of associated objects, as simple as this:

@collection = object.child_object

In theory, you can even use paginate... but I hasn''t done that.. I just
did this:

In the controller:

	def mostrar
		@persona = Persona.find(params[:id], :include => [:contribuyentes])
		@contribuyentes_asoc = @persona.contribuyentes.find(:all,:order =>
''nombre asc'')
	rescue ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound
		redirect_to :action => ''index''
	end

And in the view:

<h2>Empresas asociadas</h2>
<table celpadding="5" cellspacing="0">
	<tr>
		<th align="left">
			Nombre
		</th>
		<th align="left">
			RIF
		</th>
	</tr>
	<% par_impar = 1
	 for contribuyente in @contribuyentes_asoc
	 	par_impar = 1 - par_impar %>
	<tr valign="top" class="ListLine<%= par_impar
%>">
		<td><%= h contribuyente.nombre  %></td>
		<td><%= h contribuyente.rif %></td>
		<td class="ListActions"><%= link_to ''Ver
detalles'', :controller =>
''contribuyentes'', :action => ''mostrar'',
:id => contribuyente %></td>
	</tr>
	<% end %>
</table>

That''s for listing

As for adding, just read here:

http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ClassMethods.html#M000530

Anyway... the basic idea is to create the "new" object, and then
associate it to the collection of the user you want it to belong.

I can''t explain longer now, got work to do,

Hope this helps,

Ildefonso Camargo


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On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM, soulhunter wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>>> RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many  
>>> questions here don''t get answered...
>
> Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of
unanswered
> questios.
The questions that go unanswered here are either:

   1) Very difficult questions, of which there are very few

or

   2) Questions answered here:
      http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
      of which there are *many*, including yours.

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I am using backgroundrb and getting the following error in the
backgroundrb.log file.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on
what''s happening here?  All seems well on the machine...Postgresql is
running, backgroundrb server running, etc.  The code from the worker is
pretty large, so I didn''t want to put it out unless necessary.

"druby://localhost:42531 - #<Errno::ECONNREFUSED: Connection refused -
connect(2)> - (DRb::DRbConnError)"

Thanks,
Nathan


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On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Nathan Leach wrote:
>
> I am using backgroundrb and getting the following error in the
> backgroundrb.log file.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on
> what''s happening here?  All seems well on the machine...Postgresql
is
> running, backgroundrb server running, etc.  The code from the  
> worker is
> pretty large, so I didn''t want to put it out unless necessary.
>
> "druby://localhost:42531 - #<Errno::ECONNREFUSED: Connection
refused -
> connect(2)> - (DRb::DRbConnError)"
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan
>
	It looks like you are just getting a connection refused error. Are  
you sure the drb server is running on the port you want and that the  
clietn is using the same port? Try restarting the drb server too.  
That error is just because it cannot make a connection to the drb  
server so there is something wrong with your setup.

-Ezra

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> Hi!
> 
> On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >I need some guidance as to how to get all of the pieces working
for
> >managing a set of children records.
> >
> > >In my case, the parent model is Users.  The child model is
Referrer
> codes.  >One user can create many referrer codes and hand them out.
If
> someone >signs up to the site with one of their referrer codes, they
get
> credit for >that new user.  So, I need a controller with a set of
actions
> where they >can maintain their referral codes.
> > >What is needed is a fairly simple CRUD, just limited to that user:
> > >I need to list just the records for the user.
> > >I need the user to be able to add/change/delete their own codes.
> > >Anyone have a link to a simple tutorial to show how to manage the
> children >records?   I''d like it to be plain old html, no AJAX
stuff
yet,
> as I''d like >to get a full understanding of basic rails, and
you know,
> walk before I >run.
> > >Many Thanks!
> > >Regards,
> > >RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many questions
here
> don''t get answered...
> 
> Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of
unanswered
> questios.
> 
> Anyway.  About your question.
> 
> If you have the "has_many" relationship in place, you can access
the
> collection of associated objects, as simple as this:
> 
> @collection = object.child_object
> 
> In theory, you can even use paginate... but I hasn''t done that.. I
just
> did this:
> 
> In the controller:
> 
> 	def mostrar
> 		@persona = Persona.find(params[:id], :include =>
> [:contribuyentes])
> 		@contribuyentes_asoc > @persona.contribuyentes.find(:all,:order =>
> ''nombre asc'')
> 	rescue ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound
> 		redirect_to :action => ''index''
> 	end
> 
> And in the view:
> 
> <h2>Empresas asociadas</h2>
> <table celpadding="5" cellspacing="0">
> 	<tr>
> 		<th align="left">
> 			Nombre
> 		</th>
> 		<th align="left">
> 			RIF
> 		</th>
> 	</tr>
> 	<% par_impar = 1
> 	 for contribuyente in @contribuyentes_asoc
> 	 	par_impar = 1 - par_impar %>
> 	<tr valign="top" class="ListLine<%= par_impar
%>">
> 		<td><%= h contribuyente.nombre  %></td>
> 		<td><%= h contribuyente.rif %></td>
> 		<td class="ListActions"><%= link_to ''Ver
detalles'',
> :controller =>
> ''contribuyentes'', :action =>
''mostrar'', :id => contribuyente %></td>
> 	</tr>
> 	<% end %>
> </table>
> 
> That''s for listing
> 
> As for adding, just read here:
> 
>
http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ClassMethod
s.
> html#M000530
> 
> Anyway... the basic idea is to create the "new" object, and then
> associate it to the collection of the user you want it to belong.
> 
> I can''t explain longer now, got work to do,
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Ildefonso Camargo
> 

Many thanks.  I''ll continue working on this.

Regards
Rich

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On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:34 -0700, Ezra Zygmuntowicz
wrote:
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Nathan Leach wrote:
>
> >
> > I am using backgroundrb and getting the following error in the
> > backgroundrb.log file.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on
> > what''s happening here?  All seems well on the
machine...Postgresql is
> > running, backgroundrb server running, etc.  The code from the
> > worker is
> > pretty large, so I didn''t want to put it out unless
necessary.
> >
> > "druby://localhost:42531 - #<Errno::ECONNREFUSED: Connection
refused -
> > connect(2)> - (DRb::DRbConnError)"
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nathan
> >
>
> 	It looks like you are just getting a connection refused error. Are
> you sure the drb server is running on the port you want and that the
> clietn is using the same port? Try restarting the drb server too.
> That error is just because it cannot make a connection to the drb
> server so there is something wrong with your setup.
>
> -Ezra
> >
Ezra,

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I will look my setup to see if I
can find something out of place.

I have some logging happening in the worker, so I know the process is
being spawned.  I am also running the background server in a console
window, so I know that it''s running.  Should I be running the
background
server with a port specified?  Is there anything else I should be doing
to track this down?   It seems like the process is dying after it has
already been kicked off.

Nathan


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You could have something within the dowork() method that is killing
backgroundrb, however it doesn''t seem all too likely. I would verify
with
''netstat -anp'' that backgroundrb is listening. I''ve
been using backgroundrb
for 2 months now and I''ve only encountered this if indeed the server is
not
running.

On 10/13/06, Nathan Leach
<nathan.leach-8O96a5ImwvDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:34 -0700, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Nathan Leach wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am using backgroundrb and getting the following error in the
> > > backgroundrb.log file.  Can anyone point me in the right
direction on
> > > what''s happening here?  All seems well on the
machine...Postgresql is
> > > running, backgroundrb server running, etc.  The code from the
> > > worker is
> > > pretty large, so I didn''t want to put it out unless
necessary.
> > >
> > > "druby://localhost:42531 - #<Errno::ECONNREFUSED:
Connection refused -
> > > connect(2)> - (DRb::DRbConnError)"
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nathan
> > >
> >
> >       It looks like you are just getting a connection refused error.
Are
> > you sure the drb server is running on the port you want and that the
> > clietn is using the same port? Try restarting the drb server too.
> > That error is just because it cannot make a connection to the drb
> > server so there is something wrong with your setup.
> >
> > -Ezra
> > >
> Ezra,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to respond, I will look my setup to see if I
> can find something out of place.
>
> I have some logging happening in the worker, so I know the process is
> being spawned.  I am also running the background server in a console
> window, so I know that it''s running.  Should I be running the
background
> server with a port specified?  Is there anything else I should be doing
> to track this down?   It seems like the process is dying after it has
> already been kicked off.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> >
>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
[mailto:rubyonrails-
> talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Tom Mornini
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 2:42 PM
> To: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Subject: [Rails] Re: has_many sample code for maintaining the child
> records?
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM, soulhunter wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many
> >>> questions here don''t get answered...
> >
> > Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of
unanswered
> > questios.
> 
> The questions that go unanswered here are either:
> 
>    1) Very difficult questions, of which there are very few
> 
> or
> 
>    2) Questions answered here:
>       http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
>       of which there are *many*, including yours.

Sigh.  I have a copy of Rails Recipes.  I have a copy of Ruby for Rails.
I have an old v1 copy of AWDWR.  Especially, my AWDWR is well worn.  The
examples and text in these books cover the simplest cases, for example
scaffolding.  They do an excellent job explaining how to build the
model.  They DO NOT, in my opinion, do a good enough job to cover how to
glue things together correctly on a more-than-toy type of scale.
 
I don''t mind digging around in the books.  I don''t mind
digging around
in google.  I have done so.  If you have a particular page number in a
particular book in mind, by all means, tell me, and I''ll go do more
reading.  

Thanks.

Regards,
Rich

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Hi!

On Oct 13, 3:41 pm, Tom Mornini
<tmorn...-W/9V78bTXriB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM,soulhunterwrote:
>
> > Hi!
>
> > On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> >>> RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many
> >>> questions here don''t get answered...
>
> > Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of
unanswered
> > questios.The questions that go unanswered here are either:
>
>    1) Very difficult questions, of which there are very few
>
> or
>
>    2) Questions answered here:
>      http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
>       of which there are *many*, including yours.
Including.... mine?, please, give me the page number, or at least the
chapter, I got the v1 book (still hasn''t got the v2):

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_thread/thread/90bfa34beb62beb4/a002279e8a74ad85?lnk=gst&q=soulhunter&rnum=1#a002279e8a74ad85

You can get to it doing a search for: auto_complete_for
reimplementation in this forum.

Please read correctly: I don''t want an custom
"auto_complete_for" for
just one autocomplete,  but for MANY, and thus I don''t want to write
the same code, or copy and paste, and replace, and then maintain 20 or
copies of the function.

If you assure that the answer to *that* question is answered in v2
book, and not in v1... I will go and buy it.

I found the book to be too basic, and too "toy-like"..... for real
apps
you can''t depend on scaffolds and such things... yes, you use them, but
they are not the "whole" app.

I ended up learning a lot more doing everything from "scratch", and
not
using the code generators.

Please, be more carefull when you use the "RTFM" answer to some
question,

c-ya!

Ildefonso Camargo


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Hi!

I just remember that this exists:

http://rorsublist.rubyforge.org/

Looks pretty usefull, I''ll use part of it in a part of my project that
needs to do almost the same you need.

Hope this helps,

Ildefonso Camargo

On Oct 13, 12:03 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need some guidance as to how to get all of the pieces working for
> managing a set of children records.
>
> In my case, the parent model is Users.  The child model is Referrer
> codes.  One user can create many referrer codes and hand them out.  If
> someone signs up to the site with one of their referrer codes, they get
> credit for that new user.  So, I need a controller with a set of actions
> where they can maintain their referral codes.
>
> What is needed is a fairly simple CRUD, just limited to that user:
>
> I need to list just the records for the user.
>
> I need the user to be able to add/change/delete their own codes.
>
> Anyone have a link to a simple tutorial to show how to manage the
> children records?   I''d like it to be plain old html, no AJAX
stuff yet,
> as I''d like to get a full understanding of basic rails, and you
know,
> walk before I run.
> 
> Many Thanks!
> 
> Regards,
> Rich

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Tom Mornini wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM, soulhunter wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like many
> >>> questions here don''t get answered...
> >
> > Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a lot of
unanswered
> > questios.
>
> The questions that go unanswered here are either:
>
>    1) Very difficult questions, of which there are very few
>
> or
>
>    2) Questions answered here:
>       http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
>       of which there are *many*, including yours.
>
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> On Oct 16, 2006, at 4:12 AM, paron wrote:
>
>> Tom Mornini wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM, soulhunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, "Duzenbury, Rich"
<rduzenb...-qLTRsCMXNVoAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> RichAm I asking the wrong questions?  It seems like
many
>>>>>> questions here don''t get answered...
>>>>
>>>> Same here.... I''m not sure on why... but there are a
lot of
>>>> unanswered
>>>> questios.
>>>
>>> The questions that go unanswered here are either:
>>>
>>>    1) Very difficult questions, of which there are very few
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>    2) Questions answered here:
>>>       http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
>>>       of which there are *many*, including yours.
>>
>> So if you are looking for Ruby on Rails hosting whose version of tech
>> support is, "Go read the manual." here''s a good
choice!
I''m really very sorry if that response sounded negative. I was
answering
the question "why are many questions unanswered" as factually as I
knew
how. Rails is a wonderful thing, but it''s very difficult to grok
it''s
subtle beauty without reading the book, as it''s the de-facto manual at
this point in time.

I certainly didn''t mean to imply any negativity in the response, either
toward any previous poster, or the list in general.

After many years on mailing lists I should have recognized that the tone
of that message could be easily misinterpreted.

My most sincere apologies to any and all offended parties. I was really
trying to be helpful and answer the question at hand.

Readers of list will hopefully recognize that Ezra and I both put in  
quite
a bit of time answering questions on this list. Hopefully our history
will speak louder than any misunderstanding over the intent of a single
message.

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