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Rails Community,

We came upon rails about a year ago in our quest for a simple, easy to 
use, open source CRM solution to help manage our core business.  We 
decided to go down our own path after carefully evaluating SugarCRM, 
vTiger and a few other open source CRM platforms.  The result is similar 
to what you will see if you go to the following link:

http://www.crmonrails.com

While this is no competition for SugarCRM, vTiger or any other major CRM 
product out there today we certainly hope that one day it will be.  The 
version you will see on the demo is specialized for the automobile 
transportation business. However, we believe that there are a lot of 
companies out there that need a very basic CRM system and get 
overwhelmed by current offerings.

We will open source a generic version of this product as soon as a few 
more capabilities are added.  These are identified on our forum under 
"Feature Requests."  We would appreciate any help anyone can provide 
(forum URL can be found on demo).

If nothing else, please check out the demo.  It doesn''t have much data 
in it right now, so create some records, navigate through the system and 
let us know what you think.  If you break it - tell me how so I can fix 
it!  We have had a pretty "nice" set of users on this to date so some 
testing from super intelligent linux guru''s is probably a good idea! 
Yikes..please don''t destroy it!  As mentioned previously, it
isn''t going
to win any awards for "Product of the Year", but hopefully we can get 
enough contributors and enhancements to it so that it can be useful for 
a good number of small to medium businesses that don''t need all the 
bells and whistles.

We borrowed a lot of functionality from the open source community and 
want to thank them very much for providing excellent tools to make this 
all possible.  We took the look and feel directly from vTiger (Open 
Source PHP CRM App) but everything else is ruby/rails.

Even if you aren''t interested in a CRM solution, you can check out this
demo to see how other plugins/helpers work.  For example, we use the 
following:

**pdf/writer - To see pdf''s within the demo, go to Orders | Order Forms
| Create Order Forms

**LoginEngine - The very first thing you will see (hopefully)
**enumerations mixin - All list of values/drop down lists in select 
boxes.
**ym4r - Not visible on the demo yet - need gmaps API key.
**acts_as_versioned - Yes, be careful what you type and delete!  :-) 
Only key areas are versioned.

**datebox_engine - Calendar support across all date fields.
**sort_helper - Click on any column heading to sort the data thanks to 
sort_helper

**backgrounDrb - disabled for the demo

A lot of people have questions about ActionMailer as well - and we use 
it in several places within the application.  Please note:  All email 
and fax functionality has been removed to protect the innocent!  We 
import leads via a script/runner routine that you also won''t see
(it''s a
pain creating leads manually).  The only tab that isn''t functional is 
the Home tab (go figure).  All others work - some of them take special 
criteria so if they appear broken they aren''t.

We also use AJAX in a few places (try to fax an order and you will see a 
very simple ajax call).  More AJAX support is coming.

Thanks again to everyone who answered my posts on this forum - from the 
time I got started until recently.

Regards,

Michael

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Hey Micheal,

Congrats on the relase of CMS on Rails. Had a quick peek at the app,
and definately looks like you invested some quality time for this
release.

One thing I noticed about the release announcement was you mentioning
the datebox_engine, which has been renamed, and released as a second
version as the datebocks_engine.

If you want to find some install instructions, check out
http://datebocks.inimit.com

-NSHB

On 8/30/06, Michael Modica
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Rails Community,
>
> We came upon rails about a year ago in our quest for a simple, easy to
> use, open source CRM solution to help manage our core business.  We
> decided to go down our own path after carefully evaluating SugarCRM,
> vTiger and a few other open source CRM platforms.  The result is similar
> to what you will see if you go to the following link:
>
> http://www.crmonrails.com
>
> While this is no competition for SugarCRM, vTiger or any other major CRM
> product out there today we certainly hope that one day it will be.  The
> version you will see on the demo is specialized for the automobile
> transportation business. However, we believe that there are a lot of
> companies out there that need a very basic CRM system and get
> overwhelmed by current offerings.
>
> We will open source a generic version of this product as soon as a few
> more capabilities are added.  These are identified on our forum under
> "Feature Requests."  We would appreciate any help anyone can
provide
> (forum URL can be found on demo).
>
> If nothing else, please check out the demo.  It doesn''t have much
data
> in it right now, so create some records, navigate through the system and
> let us know what you think.  If you break it - tell me how so I can fix
> it!  We have had a pretty "nice" set of users on this to date so
some
> testing from super intelligent linux guru''s is probably a good
idea!
> Yikes..please don''t destroy it!  As mentioned previously, it
isn''t going
> to win any awards for "Product of the Year", but hopefully we can
get
> enough contributors and enhancements to it so that it can be useful for
> a good number of small to medium businesses that don''t need all
the
> bells and whistles.
>
> We borrowed a lot of functionality from the open source community and
> want to thank them very much for providing excellent tools to make this
> all possible.  We took the look and feel directly from vTiger (Open
> Source PHP CRM App) but everything else is ruby/rails.
>
> Even if you aren''t interested in a CRM solution, you can check out
this
> demo to see how other plugins/helpers work.  For example, we use the
> following:
>
> **pdf/writer - To see pdf''s within the demo, go to Orders | Order
Forms
> | Create Order Forms
>
> **LoginEngine - The very first thing you will see (hopefully)
> **enumerations mixin - All list of values/drop down lists in select
> boxes.
> **ym4r - Not visible on the demo yet - need gmaps API key.
> **acts_as_versioned - Yes, be careful what you type and delete!  :-)
> Only key areas are versioned.
>
> **datebox_engine - Calendar support across all date fields.
> **sort_helper - Click on any column heading to sort the data thanks to
> sort_helper
>
> **backgrounDrb - disabled for the demo
>
> A lot of people have questions about ActionMailer as well - and we use
> it in several places within the application.  Please note:  All email
> and fax functionality has been removed to protect the innocent!  We
> import leads via a script/runner routine that you also won''t see
(it''s a
> pain creating leads manually).  The only tab that isn''t functional
is
> the Home tab (go figure).  All others work - some of them take special
> criteria so if they appear broken they aren''t.
>
> We also use AJAX in a few places (try to fax an order and you will see a
> very simple ajax call).  More AJAX support is coming.
>
> Thanks again to everyone who answered my posts on this forum - from the
> time I got started until recently.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>

-- 
Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown

Open Source Insight - http://nshb.net
Open Source Development - http://inimit.com
Open Source Training  - http://osevents.com

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Nathaniel,

Off thread topic here but I signed up for the databock maillist and
posted a question, congrats! it''s the first one :)

Stuart

On 8/30/06, Nathaniel Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Hey Micheal,
>
> Congrats on the relase of CMS on Rails. Had a quick peek at the app,
> and definately looks like you invested some quality time for this
> release.
>
> One thing I noticed about the release announcement was you mentioning
> the datebox_engine, which has been renamed, and released as a second
> version as the datebocks_engine.
>
> If you want to find some install instructions, check out
> http://datebocks.inimit.com
>
> -NSHB
>
> On 8/30/06, Michael Modica
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > Rails Community,
> >
> > We came upon rails about a year ago in our quest for a simple, easy to
> > use, open source CRM solution to help manage our core business.  We
> > decided to go down our own path after carefully evaluating SugarCRM,
> > vTiger and a few other open source CRM platforms.  The result is
similar
> > to what you will see if you go to the following link:
> >
> > http://www.crmonrails.com
> >
> > While this is no competition for SugarCRM, vTiger or any other major
CRM
> > product out there today we certainly hope that one day it will be. 
The
> > version you will see on the demo is specialized for the automobile
> > transportation business. However, we believe that there are a lot of
> > companies out there that need a very basic CRM system and get
> > overwhelmed by current offerings.
> >
> > We will open source a generic version of this product as soon as a few
> > more capabilities are added.  These are identified on our forum under
> > "Feature Requests."  We would appreciate any help anyone can
provide
> > (forum URL can be found on demo).
> >
> > If nothing else, please check out the demo.  It doesn''t have
much data
> > in it right now, so create some records, navigate through the system
and
> > let us know what you think.  If you break it - tell me how so I can
fix
> > it!  We have had a pretty "nice" set of users on this to
date so some
> > testing from super intelligent linux guru''s is probably a
good idea!
> > Yikes..please don''t destroy it!  As mentioned previously, it
isn''t going
> > to win any awards for "Product of the Year", but hopefully
we can get
> > enough contributors and enhancements to it so that it can be useful
for
> > a good number of small to medium businesses that don''t need
all the
> > bells and whistles.
> >
> > We borrowed a lot of functionality from the open source community and
> > want to thank them very much for providing excellent tools to make
this
> > all possible.  We took the look and feel directly from vTiger (Open
> > Source PHP CRM App) but everything else is ruby/rails.
> >
> > Even if you aren''t interested in a CRM solution, you can
check out this
> > demo to see how other plugins/helpers work.  For example, we use the
> > following:
> >
> > **pdf/writer - To see pdf''s within the demo, go to Orders |
Order Forms
> > | Create Order Forms
> >
> > **LoginEngine - The very first thing you will see (hopefully)
> > **enumerations mixin - All list of values/drop down lists in select
> > boxes.
> > **ym4r - Not visible on the demo yet - need gmaps API key.
> > **acts_as_versioned - Yes, be careful what you type and delete!  :-)
> > Only key areas are versioned.
> >
> > **datebox_engine - Calendar support across all date fields.
> > **sort_helper - Click on any column heading to sort the data thanks to
> > sort_helper
> >
> > **backgrounDrb - disabled for the demo
> >
> > A lot of people have questions about ActionMailer as well - and we use
> > it in several places within the application.  Please note:  All email
> > and fax functionality has been removed to protect the innocent!  We
> > import leads via a script/runner routine that you also won''t
see (it''s a
> > pain creating leads manually).  The only tab that isn''t
functional is
> > the Home tab (go figure).  All others work - some of them take special
> > criteria so if they appear broken they aren''t.
> >
> > We also use AJAX in a few places (try to fax an order and you will see
a
> > very simple ajax call).  More AJAX support is coming.
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who answered my posts on this forum - from
the
> > time I got started until recently.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown
>
> Open Source Insight - http://nshb.net
> Open Source Development - http://inimit.com
> Open Source Training  - http://osevents.com
>
> >
>
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Hey, Michael!

That CRM is looking good. I can tell you that I have installed SugarCRM for
one of my clients and he doesn''t use more than 2% of all the features.
I
think what you have there on the demo should do for a lot of people. It
might need some tweaking to get rid of the automovile industry stuff,
though. Anyway, looking good!

Sincerely,

Adrian Madrid

On 8/30/06, Nathaniel Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
>
> Hey Micheal,
>
> Congrats on the relase of CMS on Rails. Had a quick peek at the app,
> and definately looks like you invested some quality time for this
> release.
>
> One thing I noticed about the release announcement was you mentioning
> the datebox_engine, which has been renamed, and released as a second
> version as the datebocks_engine.
>
> If you want to find some install instructions, check out
> http://datebocks.inimit.com
>
> -NSHB
>
> On 8/30/06, Michael Modica
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > Rails Community,
> >
> > We came upon rails about a year ago in our quest for a simple, easy to
> > use, open source CRM solution to help manage our core business.  We
> > decided to go down our own path after carefully evaluating SugarCRM,
> > vTiger and a few other open source CRM platforms.  The result is
similar
> > to what you will see if you go to the following link:
> >
> > http://www.crmonrails.com
> >
> > While this is no competition for SugarCRM, vTiger or any other major
CRM
> > product out there today we certainly hope that one day it will be. 
The
> > version you will see on the demo is specialized for the automobile
> > transportation business. However, we believe that there are a lot of
> > companies out there that need a very basic CRM system and get
> > overwhelmed by current offerings.
> >
> > We will open source a generic version of this product as soon as a few
> > more capabilities are added.  These are identified on our forum under
> > "Feature Requests."  We would appreciate any help anyone can
provide
> > (forum URL can be found on demo).
> >
> > If nothing else, please check out the demo.  It doesn''t have
much data
> > in it right now, so create some records, navigate through the system
and
> > let us know what you think.  If you break it - tell me how so I can
fix
> > it!  We have had a pretty "nice" set of users on this to
date so some
> > testing from super intelligent linux guru''s is probably a
good idea!
> > Yikes..please don''t destroy it!  As mentioned previously, it
isn''t going
> > to win any awards for "Product of the Year", but hopefully
we can get
> > enough contributors and enhancements to it so that it can be useful
for
> > a good number of small to medium businesses that don''t need
all the
> > bells and whistles.
> >
> > We borrowed a lot of functionality from the open source community and
> > want to thank them very much for providing excellent tools to make
this
> > all possible.  We took the look and feel directly from vTiger (Open
> > Source PHP CRM App) but everything else is ruby/rails.
> >
> > Even if you aren''t interested in a CRM solution, you can
check out this
> > demo to see how other plugins/helpers work.  For example, we use the
> > following:
> >
> > **pdf/writer - To see pdf''s within the demo, go to Orders |
Order Forms
> > | Create Order Forms
> >
> > **LoginEngine - The very first thing you will see (hopefully)
> > **enumerations mixin - All list of values/drop down lists in select
> > boxes.
> > **ym4r - Not visible on the demo yet - need gmaps API key.
> > **acts_as_versioned - Yes, be careful what you type and delete!  :-)
> > Only key areas are versioned.
> >
> > **datebox_engine - Calendar support across all date fields.
> > **sort_helper - Click on any column heading to sort the data thanks to
> > sort_helper
> >
> > **backgrounDrb - disabled for the demo
> >
> > A lot of people have questions about ActionMailer as well - and we use
> > it in several places within the application.  Please note:  All email
> > and fax functionality has been removed to protect the innocent!  We
> > import leads via a script/runner routine that you also won''t
see (it''s a
> > pain creating leads manually).  The only tab that isn''t
functional is
> > the Home tab (go figure).  All others work - some of them take special
> > criteria so if they appear broken they aren''t.
> >
> > We also use AJAX in a few places (try to fax an order and you will see
a
> > very simple ajax call).  More AJAX support is coming.
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who answered my posts on this forum - from
the
> > time I got started until recently.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown
>
> Open Source Insight - http://nshb.net
> Open Source Development - http://inimit.com
> Open Source Training  - http://osevents.com
>
> >
>

-- 
Adrian Esteban Madrid


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Michael,
One to mention one thing -
you have a button for "Dispatch Forms" and "Order Forms". 
It''s not
that they are not working, but if you hit both they overlap each
other.  I know that it wouldn''t make sense to press both but you know
users.

Stuart

On 8/30/06, Michael Modica
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Rails Community,
>
> We came upon rails about a year ago in our quest for a simple, easy to
> use, open source CRM solution to help manage our core business.  We
> decided to go down our own path after carefully evaluating SugarCRM,
> vTiger and a few other open source CRM platforms.  The result is similar
> to what you will see if you go to the following link:
>
> http://www.crmonrails.com
>
> While this is no competition for SugarCRM, vTiger or any other major CRM
> product out there today we certainly hope that one day it will be.  The
> version you will see on the demo is specialized for the automobile
> transportation business. However, we believe that there are a lot of
> companies out there that need a very basic CRM system and get
> overwhelmed by current offerings.
>
> We will open source a generic version of this product as soon as a few
> more capabilities are added.  These are identified on our forum under
> "Feature Requests."  We would appreciate any help anyone can
provide
> (forum URL can be found on demo).
>
> If nothing else, please check out the demo.  It doesn''t have much
data
> in it right now, so create some records, navigate through the system and
> let us know what you think.  If you break it - tell me how so I can fix
> it!  We have had a pretty "nice" set of users on this to date so
some
> testing from super intelligent linux guru''s is probably a good
idea!
> Yikes..please don''t destroy it!  As mentioned previously, it
isn''t going
> to win any awards for "Product of the Year", but hopefully we can
get
> enough contributors and enhancements to it so that it can be useful for
> a good number of small to medium businesses that don''t need all
the
> bells and whistles.
>
> We borrowed a lot of functionality from the open source community and
> want to thank them very much for providing excellent tools to make this
> all possible.  We took the look and feel directly from vTiger (Open
> Source PHP CRM App) but everything else is ruby/rails.
>
> Even if you aren''t interested in a CRM solution, you can check out
this
> demo to see how other plugins/helpers work.  For example, we use the
> following:
>
> **pdf/writer - To see pdf''s within the demo, go to Orders | Order
Forms
> | Create Order Forms
>
> **LoginEngine - The very first thing you will see (hopefully)
> **enumerations mixin - All list of values/drop down lists in select
> boxes.
> **ym4r - Not visible on the demo yet - need gmaps API key.
> **acts_as_versioned - Yes, be careful what you type and delete!  :-)
> Only key areas are versioned.
>
> **datebox_engine - Calendar support across all date fields.
> **sort_helper - Click on any column heading to sort the data thanks to
> sort_helper
>
> **backgrounDrb - disabled for the demo
>
> A lot of people have questions about ActionMailer as well - and we use
> it in several places within the application.  Please note:  All email
> and fax functionality has been removed to protect the innocent!  We
> import leads via a script/runner routine that you also won''t see
(it''s a
> pain creating leads manually).  The only tab that isn''t functional
is
> the Home tab (go figure).  All others work - some of them take special
> criteria so if they appear broken they aren''t.
>
> We also use AJAX in a few places (try to fax an order and you will see a
> very simple ajax call).  More AJAX support is coming.
>
> Thanks again to everyone who answered my posts on this forum - from the
> time I got started until recently.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
> >
>
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That looks great.  Nice work.

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Adrian,
   
  Thank you!  BTW...we are still using the helper library that you created for
us around pdf::writer!  It has been flawless!
   
   
  Nathaniel,
   
  Even though you upgraded to DateBocks, I''m still using date_box so
wanted to put the proper credit in place.  I will update to DateBocks but it is
a low priority.  Thank you for implementing one of my submitted changes into
DateBocks - I''m sure it is very useful to others and I recommend it
every time I see someone on the forum asking questions about a Calendar. 
I''ll upgrade as soon as you put the time functions into it!  :-)  Yeah,
that will be nice to have!
   
  Thanks for the kind words,
   
  Michael
   
  

Adrian Madrid <aemadrid-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
  Hey, Michael!

That CRM is looking good. I can tell you that I have installed SugarCRM for one
of my clients and he doesn''t use more than 2% of all the features. I
think what you have there on the demo should do for a lot of people. It might
need some tweaking to get rid of the automovile industry stuff, though. Anyway,
looking good!

Sincerely,

Adrian Madrid

  On 8/30/06, Nathaniel Brown
<nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hey Micheal,

Congrats on the relase of CMS on Rails. Had a quick peek at the app,
and definately looks like you invested some quality time for this
release.

One thing I noticed about the release announcement was you mentioning 
the datebox_engine, which has been renamed, and released as a second
version as the datebocks_engine.

If you want to find some install instructions, check out
http://datebocks.inimit.com 

-NSHB


 				
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Stuart Fellowes wrote:
> Michael,
> One to mention one thing -
> you have a button for "Dispatch Forms" and "Order
Forms".  It''s not
> that they are not working, but if you hit both they overlap each
> other.  I know that it wouldn''t make sense to press both but you
know
> users.
> 
> Stuart
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the feedback.  That was a quick hack - as I originally had 
buttons on that form and I had to quickly add some fax capability.  When 
I added those options, the UI looked horrible so I separated them into 
div''s like you see.  I was actually a little embarrassed to release it 
looking the way it looks on those divs but I was tired of delaying this. 
You are right! They overlap.  Another inconsistency is if you click on 
the order options it closes the div on submit.  Whereas if you click on 
the Dispatch Forms options, it keeps the div in the way.

On another note, you will see that if you try to fax, you get the nice 
"Progress" feature because it uses AJAX (on the demo it is just a
sleep
within the controller, but in real life we actually do fax those 
documents).  I asked a question on this forum about a month ago that 
went unanswered - but the reason you don''t see that same thing when you
aren''t faxing (i.e. Create XXX) is because those actions send the PDF 
back to the browser for the user to open.  I couldn''t figure out how to
get the browser to open that file (using send_file or send_data) when 
done in an AJAX call.

If anyone has any input on that then it would be great.

Interestingly, only one person has created a record so far!  Based on 
the data they put in, I''m sure they are trying to find a key constraint
that doesn''t exist.  The primary reason is because we often get lead 
requests from the same person (bidding on ebay auctions and lose for 
example) and need to allow them to request multiple quotes.  I will 
eventually put in an "Accounts" feature so we can track their orders 
more efficiently, but for our business model, it is "okay" the way it 
is.

Regards,

Michael

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>From: Michael Modica
<rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
>Reply-To: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>To: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>Subject: [Rails] Re: [ANN] CRMonRails.com - Open Source CRM built on ROR...
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:37:38 +0200
>
>
>Stuart Fellowes wrote:
> > Michael,
> > One to mention one thing -
> > you have a button for "Dispatch Forms" and "Order
Forms".  It''s not
> > that they are not working, but if you hit both they overlap each
> > other.  I know that it wouldn''t make sense to press both but
you know
> > users.
> >
> > Stuart
>
>Hi Stuart,
>
>Thanks for the feedback.  That was a quick hack - as I originally had
>buttons on that form and I had to quickly add some fax capability.  When
>I added those options, the UI looked horrible so I separated them into
>div''s like you see.  I was actually a little embarrassed to release
it
>looking the way it looks on those divs but I was tired of delaying this.
>You are right! They overlap.  Another inconsistency is if you click on
>the order options it closes the div on submit.  Whereas if you click on
>the Dispatch Forms options, it keeps the div in the way.
>
>On another note, you will see that if you try to fax, you get the nice
>"Progress" feature because it uses AJAX (on the demo it is just a
sleep
>within the controller, but in real life we actually do fax those
>documents).  I asked a question on this forum about a month ago that
>went unanswered - but the reason you don''t see that same thing when
you
>aren''t faxing (i.e. Create XXX) is because those actions send the
PDF
>back to the browser for the user to open.  I couldn''t figure out
how to
>get the browser to open that file (using send_file or send_data) when
>done in an AJAX call.
>
>If anyone has any input on that then it would be great.
>
>Interestingly, only one person has created a record so far!  Based on
>the data they put in, I''m sure they are trying to find a key
constraint
>that doesn''t exist.  The primary reason is because we often get
lead
>requests from the same person (bidding on ebay auctions and lose for
>example) and need to allow them to request multiple quotes.  I will
>eventually put in an "Accounts" feature so we can track their
orders
>more efficiently, but for our business model, it is "okay" the way
it
>is.
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael
>
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>
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I would love to work on this project....is the source code in subversion 
somewhere?

Jim

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I would love to work on this project....is the source code in subversion 
somewhere?

Jim

_________________________________________________________________

   
  Jim - go to the forum (http://forum.crmonrails.railsplayground.net/forum/) and
register as a user in the Contributors forum and I''ll email you
privately.
   
  Quick Answer to your question:  Not yet - at least not publicly.  I need a few
key features implemented before we open source it.  They can be found in the
"Feature Requests" section.  Once we get those in place then this will
be open sourced.  We are looking for contributors to help with those areas.
   
  The reason for this is simple:  Once those key areas are integrated then we
have something that can truly be generic.  I don''t want to open source
prematurely and end up with a bunch of forks.
   
  If I''m wrong in my logic then I''m open to critique. 
   
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On 8/30/06, Michael <codeslush-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Adrian,
>
> Thank you!  BTW...we are still using the helper library that you created
> for us around pdf::writer!  It has been flawless!
>
>
Great to know it works as expected. Lately I''ve been working on
figuring out
Ruport because it supposedly gives you PDF|CSV|HTML from the same data but
so far I haven gotten too far. I''ll let you know if I found it better
and
maybe I can work out something better from there.

Anyway, good luck with that project!

-- 
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> Quick Answer to your question:  Not yet - at least not publicly.  I need a
> few key features implemented before we open source it.
Michael, what license are you planning to use?

Thanks

Rafael

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