Paul Larson
2006-Aug-29 00:31 UTC
Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
I''d like my local hosting company to consider Ruby on Rails as a hosting platform that they sell and support. How do I make RoR support "official" to the outside world? If I can get RoR working on my laptop, I shouldn''t have too many problems getting it to work in RedHat Linux, right? Now, this may be a loaded question. However, I''m nerdy enough to get Rails working on a dedicated Redhat machine, and just about anyone reading this forum is as well. That said, if I got Rails working on a dedicated server at this company, when would I be able to convince them that their hardware/software is indeed "certified" for the Rails community? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Bill Walton
2006-Aug-29 01:46 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
Hi Paul, Paul Larson wrote:> How do I make RoR support "official" to the outside world?> if I got Rails working on a dedicated server at this company, > when would I be able to convince them that their hardware/ > software is indeed "certified" for the Rails community?What''s your motivation for wanting to do these things? Just wondering... Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Paul Larson
2006-Aug-29 02:28 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
Bill: This particular ISP server is local - something of keen interest to my app. I''d like the peace of mind knowing that I can drive downtown to fix something should a server go down. Will this happen? Probably not. But if the server is on the other side of the country I''m out of luck. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
James Ludlow
2006-Aug-29 15:25 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
On 8/28/06, Paul Larson <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> This particular ISP server is local - something of keen interest to my > app. I''d like the peace of mind knowing that I can drive downtown to fix > something should a server go down. > > Will this happen? Probably not. But if the server is on the other side > of the country I''m out of luck.If you''re providing your own tech support why does it matter if the ISP is "certified" or not? I think that part of the disconnect here is that I have no idea what you mean by "certified." Certified for what? -- James --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Certified was a bad term to use. End result: "This host plays well with Rails." That''s all. DreamHost, for example, supports Ruby, but I''ve had half a dozen problems that are completely separate from problems with my app. So true Rails "support" is a bit if a misnomer. To rephrase: "What do you need to feel comfortable about moving Rails to a host?" -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Greg Donald
2006-Aug-29 16:33 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
On 8/29/06, Guest <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Certified was a bad term to use. End result: "This host plays well with > Rails." That''s all. > > DreamHost, for example, supports Ruby, but I''ve had half a dozen > problems that are completely separate from problems with my app. So true > Rails "support" is a bit if a misnomer. > > To rephrase: "What do you need to feel comfortable about moving Rails to > a host?"Sounds like you just need a good host. I''m sure there are different levels of service no matter where you go. I have been hosting my Rails apps with OCSSolutions for quite a while now. They have been completely helpful at every turn. They develop Rails apps from what I understand so they know what is required for a good Rails hosting environment. http://ocssolutions.com/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Brian Hogan
2006-Aug-29 17:50 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
Dreamhost''s problems are related to 1. running FastCGI in dynamic mode 2. running FastCGI in develoment mode by default 3. A process watchdog that kills off FastCGI dispatchers when it shouldn''t 4. Developers who use Dreamhost as their own playground I have dealt with 1-3 above. 4 is common on any shared host. All a host needs to do is set up the web server properly and Rails will play quite nicely. Unfortunately, there''s little that can be done about developers on your server who write sloppy code which kills the server. On 8/29/06, Greg Donald <gdonald-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On 8/29/06, Guest <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Certified was a bad term to use. End result: "This host plays well with > > Rails." That''s all. > > > > DreamHost, for example, supports Ruby, but I''ve had half a dozen > > problems that are completely separate from problems with my app. So true > > Rails "support" is a bit if a misnomer. > > > > To rephrase: "What do you need to feel comfortable about moving Rails to > > a host?" > > Sounds like you just need a good host. I''m sure there are different > levels of service no matter where you go. > > I have been hosting my Rails apps with OCSSolutions for quite a while > now. They have been completely helpful at every turn. They develop > Rails apps from what I understand so they know what is required for a > good Rails hosting environment. > > http://ocssolutions.com/ > > > -- > Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/ > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Greg Donald
2006-Aug-29 18:08 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
On 8/29/06, Brian Hogan <bphogan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Unfortunately, there''s little that can be done about > developers on your server who write sloppy code which kills the server.I disagree. At OCSSolutions each Rails app runs under it''s own user-owned Lighttpd proxied under Apache. Process quotas per user do the rest. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Brian Hogan
2006-Aug-29 19:36 UTC
Re: Rails Hosting: How do you ''certify'' a hosting company?
Sounds like a nice host. I could still see Apache being taken down by some php or perl nastiness but at least the process quotas help. On 8/29/06, Greg Donald <gdonald-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On 8/29/06, Brian Hogan <bphogan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Unfortunately, there''s little that can be done about > > developers on your server who write sloppy code which kills the server. > > I disagree. At OCSSolutions each Rails app runs under it''s own > user-owned Lighttpd proxied under Apache. Process quotas per user do > the rest. > > > -- > Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/ > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---