Rails - Jul 2006 - So what is REST? I don''t get how it fits in Rails

Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s slides where
he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on REST and
CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually shows me what
it all is.  There''s simply_restful, which apparently makes things
easier...I don''t know what though.  I''ve done a lot of
reading, so I
know what REST is, I just don''t know how people use it in Rails.  If
anyone has some examples and explanations, I''d really appreciate it.

Pat

Hi Pat,

I''m not going to be much help for you, but I did come across a link to
Mat
Griffith''s site that might be helpful:
http://mattgriffith.net/PermaLink.aspx?guid=c8e38fa3-1b07-4d3d-ba1e-f8fb7a2846dc
(Do you want to play with the latest REST stuff in
Rails?<http://mattgriffith.net/PermaLink.aspx?guid=c8e38fa3-1b07-4d3d-ba1e-f8fb7a2846dc>
)

HTH

JY


On 7/12/06, Pat Maddox <pergesu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s slides
where
> he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
> XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on REST
and
> CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually shows me
what
> it all is.  There''s simply_restful, which apparently makes things
> easier...I don''t know what though.  I''ve done a lot of
reading, so I
> know what REST is, I just don''t know how people use it in Rails. 
If
> anyone has some examples and explanations, I''d really appreciate
it.
>
> Pat
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> Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s slides
where
> he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
> XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on REST
and
> CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually shows me
what
> it all is.
<...>

Well, if you saw DHH slides, then you should have seen what it all is about.
Maybe DHH''s talk will help? URL is here: http://tinyurl.com/opl7c


Regards,
Rimantas
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Sounds like you''re wondering about REST in general, not just in rails.
If so, here''s a few
links:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/top.htm
(that''s the dissertation that started it all)

http://www.xfront.com/REST-Web-Services.html

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/08/11/rest.html

and there''s lots more out there!

b


Pat Maddox wrote:
> Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s slides
where
> he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
> XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on REST
and
> CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually shows me
what
> it all is.  There''s simply_restful, which apparently makes things
> easier...I don''t know what though.  I''ve done a lot of
reading, so I
> know what REST is, I just don''t know how people use it in Rails. 
If
> anyone has some examples and explanations, I''d really appreciate
it.
> 
> Pat
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails

On 7/12/06, Rimantas Liubertas <rimantas@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s
slides where
> > he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
> > XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on
REST and
> > CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually
shows me what
> > it all is.
> <...>
>
> Well, if you saw DHH slides, then you should have seen what it all is
about.
> Maybe DHH''s talk will help? URL is here: http://tinyurl.com/opl7c
Not really...I read the slides and watched his talk.  Read a bunch of
articles as well.  I''d really just like to see some actual example
code.  Maybe someone could take the 15 minute blog and make it
restful.  I attempted to in order to learn this for myself, but
couldn''t figure it out.

Pat

I have a question about REST security.

Let''s say I have a URL like this
http://www.mycompany.com/clients/statements/show  This URL shows the
stament for a particular client. The client logs in, I know who the
client is, I show them their statement.

Let''s say I want to expose this as a REST service so the client can
pull the statement in XML. How should the client identify themselves?
Should it be http://username:password@mycompany.com/...   Or should be
in the form of GET params? Some other way?

REST is a protocol like SOAP or XML-RPC.

A good source on REST with a few examples is on
http://ajaxpatterns.org/RESTful_Service

Doesn''t explain how Rails is going to make it easyer to make REST but
shoud explain the protocol.

On 7/12/06, Pat Maddox <pergesu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does someone have an actual example of this?  I saw DHH''s slides
where
> he said that you could have your app automatically respond with HTML,
> XML, atom, whatever.  So far I''ve found tons of discussion on REST
and
> CRUD in Rails, but I haven''t seen anything that actually shows me
what
> it all is.  There''s simply_restful, which apparently makes things
> easier...I don''t know what though.  I''ve done a lot of
reading, so I
> know what REST is, I just don''t know how people use it in Rails. 
If
> anyone has some examples and explanations, I''d really appreciate
it.
>
> Pat
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>

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