Received this link from a regular email blast, it may interest some of you. I guess RoR is starting to gain more traction :-) http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0606dumbill/?ca=dnw-723 Cheers Mohit.
On Jul 02, 2006, at 10:01 am, Mohit Sindhwani wrote:> Received this link from a regular email blast, it may interest some > of you. I guess RoR is starting to gain more traction :-) > http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/ > dm-0606dumbill/?ca=dnw-723 > > Cheers > Mohit.Wow! I''m surprised to see something by IBM, I was under the impression they are all java-obsessed there. Apple has a tutorial up too, which surprised me as Rails is an apparent competitor for WebObjects (on further thought, they probably appeal to very different developers). I''m still waiting for a Rails tutorial by Microsoft or Sun though :) Ashley
On 7/2/06, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> > Wow! I''m surprised to see something by IBM, I was under the > impression they are all java-obsessed there. Apple has a tutorial up > too, which surprised me as Rails is an apparent competitor for > WebObjects (on further thought, they probably appeal to very > different developers). I''m still waiting for a Rails tutorial by > Microsoft or Sun though :) >You just might see Sun talk about Rails more as we get closer to full support on JRuby. The upcoming 0.9.0 release can already run simple apps. -- Charles Oliver Nutter @ headius.blogspot.com JRuby Developer @ www.jruby.org Application Architect @ www.ventera.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060702/7d017d4a/attachment.html
On Jul 02, 2006, at 10:05 pm, Charles O Nutter wrote:> You just might see Sun talk about Rails more as we get closer to > full support on JRuby. The upcoming 0.9.0 release can already run > simple apps.Good point. Where do you think this will take Ruby and the JVM? I can see Bruce Tate''s (heavily paraphrased) argument that the JVM will be more relevant in the long run than the Java language. Do you think Sun will like/benefit from other languages extending the usefulness of the JVM, or will it be seen as a hijack to undermine Java? The main advantage I see of JRuby is the integration with legacy code. I''d LOVE to use a business rule engine, amd given the absence of a Ruby implementation, access to JBoss Rules would be fantastic. Ashley
On 7/2/06, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> > Good point. Where do you think this will take Ruby and the JVM? I > can see Bruce Tate''s (heavily paraphrased) argument that the JVM will > be more relevant in the long run than the Java language. Do you > think Sun will like/benefit from other languages extending the > usefulness of the JVM, or will it be seen as a hijack to undermine Java? > > The main advantage I see of JRuby is the integration with legacy > code. I''d LOVE to use a business rule engine, amd given the absence > of a Ruby implementation, access to JBoss Rules would be fantastic. >There are currently two camps within Sun: those who believe Java is the indivisible trinity of language, libraries, and vm; and those who believe the language part of that equation is irrelevant to the other two. Tim Bray, co-author of the XML specification, is the Director of Web Technologies at Sun, a big Rails fan, and a good friend to the JRuby project. He also happens to be a driving force behind the latter camp, which seems to be winning the tug-of-war. Java 6 will have built-in support for integrating scripting languages into the platform. Graham Hamilton, Sun VP and Fellow in the Java Platform team and lead architect of versions 1.3, 1.4, and 5, stated at JavaOne that Sun is committed to making the Java platform "multilingual". And a large number of Java 7 features have been proposed that make alternative languages and easier to implement and integrate...especially dyntyped languages like Ruby. Sun finally "gets it" about alternative languages on the JVM. Integration with legacy code is a huge selling point for JRuby and JRuby on Rails, but there''s also the potential that JRuby could become a serious enterprise-class (don''t flame, it''s a good word in context) deployment platform for Rails and other Ruby apps. Already people are using it with JBoss Rules, Spring, Hibernate, and the other flavors-of-the day. We have a working ActiveRecord-JDBC connector that could lead to complete database independence for Rails apps very soon. There''s a ton of momentum behind JRuby, and Rails will be able to ride on that progress. -- Charles Oliver Nutter @ headius.blogspot.com JRuby Developer @ www.jruby.org Application Architect @ www.ventera.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060702/28f56d2e/attachment.html