As I, like many people, are coming to ruby in the rails era, I''m curious about how Ruby Web Dev was done prior to rails. Any veterans want to share their insights? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060518/20cde24d/attachment.html
On 5/18/06, Nathan P. Verni <nverni@blenderbox.com> wrote:> As I, like many people, are coming to ruby in the rails era, I''m curious > about how Ruby Web Dev was done prior to rails. Any veterans want to share > their insights?A variety of different ways. Often CGI (cgi.rb), but there are other web frameworks that existed before Rails. -austin -- Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
On May 18, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Nathan P. Verni wrote:> As I, like many people, are coming to ruby in the rails era, I?m > curious about how Ruby Web Dev was done prior to rails. Any > veterans want to share their insights? >Probably much like: perl + cgi python + cgi php + cgi etc... ;-) -- Robby Russell Founder & Executive Director PLANET ARGON, LLC Ruby on Rails Development, Consulting & Hosting www.planetargon.com www.robbyonrails.com +1 503 445 2457 +1 877 55 ARGON [toll free] +1 815 642 4968 [fax]
Nathan P. Verni wrote:> As I, like many people, are coming to ruby in the rails era, > I''m curious about how Ruby Web Dev was done prior to rails. > Any veterans want to share their insights?http://cerise.rubyforge.org/ -Drew
On 5/18/06, Robby Russell <robby.lists@planetargon.com> wrote:> > On May 18, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Nathan P. Verni wrote: > > > As I, like many people, are coming to ruby in the rails era, I''m > > curious about how Ruby Web Dev was done prior to rails. Any > > veterans want to share their insights? > > > > Probably much like: > > perl + cgi > python + cgi > php + cgi > etc... ;-) > > > > -- > Robby Russell > Founder & Executive Director > > PLANET ARGON, LLC > Ruby on Rails Development, Consulting & Hosting > > www.planetargon.com > www.robbyonrails.com > > +1 503 445 2457 > +1 877 55 ARGON [toll free] > +1 815 642 4968 [fax] > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >Actually, there were a lot of interesting ideas and implementations (frameworks) floating around. In a sense, it''s natural that Rails emerged from Ruby. Knowing the languages you mentioned, none of them had the variety and audacity of the toys people played with on the Ruby web arena even prior to Rails. [1] should give some perspective. Something like Borges or Wee is most definitely not likely to pop up in PHP, and afaik it doesn''t have equivalents in Python or Perl (despite both having much more time and larger communities). -- -Alder [1] http://raa.ruby-lang.org/search.rhtml?search=web+framework
"Alder Green" <alder.green@gmail.com> writes:> [1] should give some perspective. Something like Borges or Wee isYou might find this interesting http://common-lisp.net/project/ucw/ Cheers, -- Surendra Singhi http://ssinghi.kreeti.com, http://www.kreeti.com Read my blog at: http://cuttingtheredtape.blogspot.com/ ,---- | Great wits are sure to madness near allied, | And thin partitions do their bounds divide. | | (John Dryden, Absalom and Achitophel, 1681) `----
On 5/19/06, Surendra Singhi <efuzzyone@netscape.net> wrote:> "Alder Green" <alder.green@gmail.com> writes: > > > [1] should give some perspective. Something like Borges or Wee is > > You might find this interesting > > http://common-lisp.net/project/ucw/ > > Cheers, > -- > Surendra Singhi > http://ssinghi.kreeti.com, http://www.kreeti.com > Read my blog at: http://cuttingtheredtape.blogspot.com/ > ,---- > | Great wits are sure to madness near allied, > | And thin partitions do their bounds divide. > | > | (John Dryden, Absalom and Achitophel, 1681) > `---- > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >Yup. So the languages where Seaside(-like) frameworks evolved are: Smalltalk, Ruby and Lisp. Kind of telling, don''t you think? ;) -- -Alder
"Alder Green" <alder.green@gmail.com> writes:> On 5/19/06, Surendra Singhi <efuzzyone@netscape.net> wrote: >> "Alder Green" <alder.green@gmail.com> writes: >> > Yup. So the languages where Seaside(-like) frameworks evolved are: > > Smalltalk, Ruby and Lisp. > > Kind of telling, don''t you think? ;) >LOL. There are more. There is one for Java as well: http://cocoon.apache.org/ There might be few in Scheme, and Haskell as well. I don''t know if they are really Seaside-like but they all are based on the idea of continuations(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation). Cheers. -- Surendra Singhi http://ssinghi.kreeti.com, http://www.kreeti.com Read my blog at: http://cuttingtheredtape.blogspot.com/ ,---- | "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." | -- Orwell, Animal Farm, 1945 `----