I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete features for win32. It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing on the screencast hosted on the rails website. http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov Cheers -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote:> > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > features for win32. > > It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing > on the screencast hosted on the rails website. > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov > > Cheers > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060517/5f32b4ac/attachment.html
To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate. There are Ruby word files but you might want to add to it some rails specific actions. But it''s easy to add. On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote:> I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > features for win32. > > It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing > on the screencast hosted on the rails website. > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov > > Cheers > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
If you''re on a budget, check out RadRails (www.radrails.org). I use it, and am very pleased so far. But, if you have the cash to spare, Komodo is very good too. It does have some auto-complete features. ________________________________ From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Brian Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:56 PM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: Re: [Rails] IDE recommendations? Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete features for win32. It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing on the screencast hosted on the rails website. http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov Cheers -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060517/184dd425/attachment.html
Thanks for such quick replies! I am looking at Komodo right now. I have tried radrails but they haven''t done the autocomplete feature yet. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote:> I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > features for win32.RadRails / Eclipse is probably the closest you''re going to get. I expect those projects will include auto-complete in the near future... Some have stated that they like ArachnoRuby. I''m doing very well with RadRails. But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :)
That''s true. Could you let the list know if you find an IDE with auto-complete? That''s a great way to explore the object models... Marcus -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Ken Kam Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:05 PM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] Re: IDE recommendations? Thanks for such quick replies! I am looking at Komodo right now. I have tried radrails but they haven''t done the autocomplete feature yet. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
jEdit (www.jedit.org) is a free, open source editor that''s cross-platform (written in Java). With the addition of a few jEdit plugins, it''s possible to come VERY close to the screencast in terms of text autocompletion and such. This page has a good introduction to making jEdit rails-friendly: http://saimonmoore.net/permalink/jedit-for-ruby-rails-development One handy tip that''s not on that Web page...if you install the Console and ProjectViewer plugins, you can easily run the rails scripts from within jEdit. You can also do the following to link ProjectViewer and Console: 1. From the Plugins menu, pick Plugin Options. 2. In the tree view, expand Project Viewer and click on the Context Menu node. 3. Click on the + below the menu item list to add a new item to the context menu. 4. In the Add to Context Menu dialog, select "Plugin: Console" 5. Click on "cd to ProjectViewer selected node dir" and click OK. 6. Click OK to dismiss the Plugin Options dialog. Then you can right-click on a folder in the Project Viewer and cause the Console shell to cd to that directory. -- Tammy> On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that > has autocomplete > features for win32. > > It would be perfect if it could do something akin to > what DHH is doing > on the screencast hosted on the rails website. > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov > > Cheers > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > >
Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote:> To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has > autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate.In my opinion (as TextMate user) it does not even come close. Probably Komodo is the best option on windows (even if it''s quite different from TM). -- blog: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/blogs | site: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/ | forum: http://www.akropolix.net/forum/ |
Curtis wrote:> But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :)I was going to suggest something similar, too. :) -- blog: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/blogs | site: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/ | forum: http://www.akropolix.net/forum/ |
Cheers guys Perhaps I should just switch to Macs. I was looking into a mac mini anyway :D. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote:> Cheers guys > > Perhaps I should just switch to Macs. > I was looking into a mac mini anyway :D.:: drools :: I feel your pain... I''ve been "looking into one" for a good long time. :) I just need to take the six hundred bucks and buy the blasted thing. However, this thread has been good...Komodo and jEdit look like viable solutions as well. It will come down to try a few and pick what works best for you. :)
J?n Borg??rsson wrote:> To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has > autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate.I think Jedit with Rubyjedit plugin and SuperAbbrev plugin is closest to TextMate. You don''t even have to add Rails specific abbrevs - they are already there. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Radrails takes longer to save a file to the harddrive on my laptop than it takes to ftp the same file to the other end of the world. Radrails also lacks some basic text editing functions such as a function finder or tags and selection of text by column. I started using it and it has a nice look so I''m keeping it for a while. I think that jedit, tho very ugly, is faster and has nice enough features. For straight text editing the scite that comes with ruby is very fast. Radrails is huge. For such a large program it ought to have more features. Emacs is faster and has more features but is ugly and uncomfortable in comparison to a modern gui.. Radrails does have good syntax coloring of rhtml files, though. The ruby/html mix does not confuse it. If you want to see a modern cross-reference facility look at slickedit or source-insight. You put your mouse on a function call and the source code for the function pops up in a sub-panel on the screen. So you can see it. Tags is an ancient wooden machine by comparison. Imagine you put your mouse over a call to a rails method and the ActiveRecord source code pops up in a panel. Warren Seltzer -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Ken Kam Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:32 AM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] Re: IDE recommendations?
Out of sheer curiosity how is spending $2000+ on a computer the best option for somebody looking for a good IDE? Rob On 5/17/06, Curtis <cuspendlove@gmail.com> wrote:> > On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > > features for win32. > > RadRails / Eclipse is probably the closest you''re going to get. I > expect those projects will include auto-complete in the near future... > Some have stated that they like ArachnoRuby. I''m doing very well > with RadRails. > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060517/0df84c79/attachment.html
I spent $3000+ on a Mac Mini, and a MacBook Pro in search of a good IDE and for every new time-saving shortcut I discover in TextMate I pat myself on the back for having gone through this option. =D Cesar On 5/17/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote:> Out of sheer curiosity how is spending $2000+ on a computer the best option > for somebody looking for a good IDE? > > Rob > > On 5/17/06, Curtis < cuspendlove@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/17/06, Ken Kam < kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > > > features for win32. > > > > RadRails / Eclipse is probably the closest you''re going to get. I > > expect those projects will include auto-complete in the near future... > > Some have stated that they like ArachnoRuby. I''m doing very well > > with RadRails. > > > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > -- > c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade > http://www.migrob.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
You don''t exactly have to spend $2000. :) $599 for a desktop or $1099 if you want a laptop. People have spent more than that searching for a good development enviroment. ;) On 5/17/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote:> Out of sheer curiosity how is spending $2000+ on a computer the best option > for somebody looking for a good IDE? > > Rob > > > On 5/17/06, Curtis < cuspendlove@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/17/06, Ken Kam < kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > > > features for win32. > > > > RadRails / Eclipse is probably the closest you''re going to get. I > > expect those projects will include auto-complete in the near future... > > Some have stated that they like ArachnoRuby. I''m doing very well > > with RadRails. > > > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > -- > c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade > http://www.migrob.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
On 5/17/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote:> Out of sheer curiosity how is spending $2000+ on a computer the best option > for somebody looking for a good IDE?Good Lordy! Where have you been pricing your Mac Minis? You can get a decent one that connects to an existing video monitor for about $599. Personally, I would toss additional RAM into it, but that might just be my World of Warcraft addiction speaking... :: cough :: And everyone knows that WoW is a required plugin for any IDE... Or, well, mebbe that''s just me...
> And everyone knows that WoW is a required plugin for any IDE... Or, > well, mebbe that''s just me... > __Nahh. .... Required..... -- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
> Curtis wrote: > > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > > I was going to suggest something similar, too. :)What that doesn''t give you is autocomplete in the true sense. TextMate looks like it has some very nice macro expansion but not a true autocomplete. My definition of ac is to type an object name a period and then see a list of methods available for that object. As some other poster said it''s a great way to investigate/learn complex class heirarchies without having to constantly refer to the docs. Of course I''m not a Mac or TextMate user so I could be WAY off base here. TextMate looks to have very powerful macro expansion but so do many others (perhaps not as nice tho). Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and without help they could create a text document. This is not really the case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get it". Ross
I find the best way to find those is to use script/console and enable tab completion in ".irbrc". Best way to find stuff if you need info. Save this file as ~/.irbrc and play around in irb or in console. http://woss.name/dist/irbrc.rb> > What that doesn''t give you is autocomplete in the true sense. TextMate looks like it has some very nice macro expansion but not a true autocomplete. My definition of ac is to type an object name a period and then see a list of methods available for that object. As some other poster said it''s a great way to investigate/learn complex class heirarchies without having to constantly refer to the docs. > > Of course I''m not a Mac or TextMate user so I could be WAY off base here. TextMate looks to have very powerful macro expansion but so do many others (perhaps not as nice tho). > > Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and without help they could create a text document. This is not really the case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get it". > > Ross > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
I agree Ross. I am a Vim junkie, but when you are new to a language/library, having that list of methods/properties can''t be beat. Especially when the function signature is right there too... -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Ross Dawson Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:38 PM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: RE: [Rails] IDE recommendations?> Curtis wrote: > > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization> > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > > I was going to suggest something similar, too. :)What that doesn''t give you is autocomplete in the true sense. TextMate looks like it has some very nice macro expansion but not a true autocomplete. My definition of ac is to type an object name a period and then see a list of methods available for that object. As some other poster said it''s a great way to investigate/learn complex class heirarchies without having to constantly refer to the docs. Of course I''m not a Mac or TextMate user so I could be WAY off base here. TextMate looks to have very powerful macro expansion but so do many others (perhaps not as nice tho). Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and without help they could create a text document. This is not really the case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get it". Ross _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Is there anyone here using Komodo Professional for Rails work? Just curious because I can''t stand it. I tried it for a week''s work and the biggest setback for me is the slow interface. The interface is very unresponsive. The built-in subversion client is a joke, and you can''t even do 2-pane diffs. Adding/removing files to the project is also quite a chore, as the application doesn''t detect new files in the file system. You have to manually add each one through File | Add File. Another thing about is despite the massive amount of bugs in their online tracking system, Activestate only managed to release a 0.0.1 revision in eight months. "Brian Chamberlain" <blchamberlain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:27d16bdf0605171255m393d31abp8e05876c3586220e@mail.gmail.com... Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete features for win32. It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing on the screencast hosted on the rails website. http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov Cheers -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Good to know. I was considering it. Still using RadRails... -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Jake Pugster Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:15 PM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] Re: IDE recommendations? Is there anyone here using Komodo Professional for Rails work? Just curious because I can''t stand it. I tried it for a week''s work and the biggest setback for me is the slow interface. The interface is very unresponsive. The built-in subversion client is a joke, and you can''t even do 2-pane diffs. Adding/removing files to the project is also quite a chore, as the application doesn''t detect new files in the file system. You have to manually add each one through File | Add File. Another thing about is despite the massive amount of bugs in their online tracking system, Activestate only managed to release a 0.0.1 revision in eight months. "Brian Chamberlain" <blchamberlain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:27d16bdf0605171255m393d31abp8e05876c3586220e@mail.gmail.com... Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete features for win32. It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing on the screencast hosted on the rails website. http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov Cheers -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>Emacs is > faster and has more features but is ugly and uncomfortable in comparison > to a modern gui..huh? emacs uses XFT/GTK2, which pretty much defines ''modern gui''. tell me how to disable font hinting on Windows, or _enable_ it on MacOSX (impossible?). you can split a window into multiple panes and dedicate one to log tail, one to firefox, one to bash, one to editing.. do other ''modern gui'' editors allow this? rails.el is great.. of course syntax highlighting for every file on my system ive ever opened is cool too. if it wasnt free i''d pay hmm... $131? theres another rails mode for emacs out there, arorem. anyone tried it? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Hey Cesar, you can get both machines for less that $2000 (i.e. Mac mini and MacBook). If you''re more mobile, then I would simple get a laptop. Peace, -Conrad On 5/17/06, Cesar Ho <cesarho@gmail.com> wrote:> > I spent $3000+ on a Mac Mini, and a MacBook Pro in search of a good > IDE and for every new time-saving shortcut I discover in TextMate I > pat myself on the back for having gone through this option. =D > > Cesar > > On 5/17/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote: > > Out of sheer curiosity how is spending $2000+ on a computer the best > option > > for somebody looking for a good IDE? > > > > Rob > > > > On 5/17/06, Curtis < cuspendlove@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 5/17/06, Ken Kam < kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has > autocomplete > > > > features for win32. > > > > > > RadRails / Eclipse is probably the closest you''re going to get. I > > > expect those projects will include auto-complete in the near future... > > > Some have stated that they like ArachnoRuby. I''m doing very well > > > with RadRails. > > > > > > But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or > > > MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when > > > neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization > > > software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have > > > TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for > > > most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade > > http://www.migrob.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060518/bdb35f71/attachment.html
I think I agree with you. SuperAbbrev seems like what I''m looking for, plus jedit has a lighter footprint than komodo or radrails. satm wrote:> J?n Borg??rsson wrote: > >> To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has >> autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate. > > I think Jedit with Rubyjedit plugin and SuperAbbrev plugin is closest to > TextMate. You don''t even have to add Rails specific abbrevs - they are > already there.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
ohh guys.... you really don''t know how much I miss my Delphi IDE..... :''-( Ken Kam escribi?:> I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > features for win32. > > It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing > on the screencast hosted on the rails website. > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov > > Cheers >
Ken Kam wrote:> I think I agree with you. SuperAbbrev seems like what I''m looking for, > plus jedit has a lighter footprint than komodo or radrails. > >Yes... I do as well... The more I play with jEdit, the more I like... If that Mac Mini didn''t have those great WoW specs and the evil TextMate... It just looks soooo slick in those movies... I console myself that jEdit is free for the Mac too... So that just brings us back to more WoW for the buck... :: ponders ::
satm wrote:> J?n Borg??rsson wrote: > >> To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has >> autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate. > > I think Jedit with Rubyjedit plugin and SuperAbbrev plugin is closest to > TextMate. You don''t even have to add Rails specific abbrevs - they are > already there.i finally took the jEdit challenge as well. i was previously using radrails which i found a bit buggy and huge. with the aforementioned plugins i am absolutely loving jEdit so far. i''ll give it a good week or so of use as my primary editor and see how it stacks up, but so far it looks like a keeper! thanks for the recommendation. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I''ve been using Komodo and TextMate on OS X. Komodo has the best debugger I can find for a Ruby IDE on OS X. It seems to slow a bit with larger Rails projects though. I go to TextMate occasionally when the usability of Komodo falls short in one or two areas. Nick Marcus Blankenship wrote:> I agree Ross. I am a Vim junkie, but when you are new to a > language/library, having that list of methods/properties can''t be beat. > Especially when the function signature is right there too... > > -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org > [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Ross Dawson > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:38 PM > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > Subject: RE: [Rails] IDE recommendations? > > >> Curtis wrote: >> >> >>> But the best option would be to purchase a dual-core Mac (Mini or >>> MacBook) and develop on OS X...dual-booting into Windows when >>> neccessary (or another nice option mentioned has been virtualization >>> > > >>> software which can run windows *inside* OS X). Then you can have >>> TextMate... :) I realize this is probably not a viable option for >>> most, but it''s the final straw in my Switch. :) >>> >> I was going to suggest something similar, too. :) >> > > What that doesn''t give you is autocomplete in the true sense. TextMate > looks like it has some very nice macro expansion but not a true > autocomplete. My definition of ac is to type an object name a period > and then see a list of methods available for that object. As some other > poster said it''s a great way to investigate/learn complex class > heirarchies without having to constantly refer to the docs. > > Of course I''m not a Mac or TextMate user so I could be WAY off base > here. TextMate looks to have very powerful macro expansion but so do > many others (perhaps not as nice tho). > > Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to > a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. > Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and > without help they could create a text document. This is not really the > case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get > it". > > Ross > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >
satm wrote:> J?n Borg??rsson wrote: > >> To get close to what DHH is doing there I recomend Ultra Edit. It has >> autocomplete and macros so feature wise it''s the closest to TextMate. > > I think Jedit with Rubyjedit plugin and SuperAbbrev plugin is closest to > TextMate. You don''t even have to add Rails specific abbrevs - they are > already there.i don''t mean to hijack this thread but if someone could give me some advice as to how to best use the jEdit SuperAbbrev plugin i''d be extremely grateful, whether it be on this list or via emal arudgick[at]gmail. thanks again! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> i don''t mean to hijack this thread but if someone could give me some > advice as to how to best use the jEdit SuperAbbrev plugin i''d be > extremely grateful, whether it be on this list or via emal > arudgick[at]gmail. > > thanks again!i know i''m breaking the most sacred rule in all of internetland and triple back to back posting but i found an excellent resource in my jEdit journey that i just had to share. http://synthesis.sbecker.net/pages/jedit-snippets-for-ruby-on-rails-docs behold the ruby abbreviations in all of their glory -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
just chiming in to agree with you Brian - on all points - it sucks for ror (and that''s coming from a quite frequent user of it for php, where it is actually pretty good (subversion/project management not withstanding - really silly oversights)) it is fast under ''nix as opposed to wndows, for whatever (!) reason had some issues with radrails so i''m now using jEdit, nice, fast & works! On Thursday 18 May 2006 01:14, Jake Pugster wrote:> Is there anyone here using Komodo Professional for Rails work? Just curious > because I can''t stand it. I tried it for a week''s work and the biggest > setback for me is the slow interface. The interface is very unresponsive. > The built-in subversion client is a joke, and you can''t even do 2-pane > diffs. Adding/removing files to the project is also quite a chore, as the > application doesn''t detect new files in the file system. You have to > manually add each one through File | Add File. Another thing about is > despite the massive amount of bugs in their online tracking system, > Activestate only managed to release a 0.0.1 revision in eight months. > > "Brian Chamberlain" <blchamberlain@gmail.com> > wrote in message > news:27d16bdf0605171255m393d31abp8e05876c3586220e@mail.gmail.com... > Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) > It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... > > > > On 5/17/06, Ken Kam <kenkam@gmail.com> wrote: > I was wondering if there are any IDEs out there that has autocomplete > features for win32. > > It would be perfect if it could do something akin to what DHH is doing > on the screencast hosted on the rails website. > http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov > > Cheers > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I have used Komodo since V2.3 or something (for perl/php back then) and have been using it now for about 2 months for rails development. I was also bothered by the issues you described below, but to be honest I think these are the only shortcomings I found (besides some weird (bug?) behaviour with key-sequences from copied snippets, find dialog always going fullscreen... and the price ofcourse, but my employer paid for it) I would also like to see (beside fixes to the below issues) some kind of automatic jumping between controller/view though. I set up my komodo ''toolbox'' (besides a bunch of snippets) with shortcuts to view my controllers/models directory, do a diff (using kdiff) with my latest ''clean'' version (to get side-by-side diff), to open much used files (like .css), top start the rails console or irb,... With function keys I can switch between my different desktops, that have a firefox, tora, komodo ofcourse, webrick output and a tail of the development.log. I''m running it on linux (that is, at work I''m using cygwin/x on wxp to connect to a linux machine, at home I''m running it ''directly'' on linux... both under kde) and have not experienced a slow interface in any way. my 2 cents... Piet. -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Jake Pugster Sent: donderdag 18 mei 2006 2:15 To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] Re: IDE recommendations? Is there anyone here using Komodo Professional for Rails work? Just curious because I can''t stand it. I tried it for a week''s work and the biggest setback for me is the slow interface. The interface is very unresponsive. The built-in subversion client is a joke, and you can''t even do 2-pane diffs. Adding/removing files to the project is also quite a chore, as the application doesn''t detect new files in the file system. You have to manually add each one through File | Add File. Another thing about is despite the massive amount of bugs in their online tracking system, Activestate only managed to release a 0.0.1 revision in eight months. "Brian Chamberlain" <blchamberlain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:27d16bdf0605171255m393d31abp8e05876c3586220e@mail.gmail.com... Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060518/7bea8f85/attachment.html
I''m surprised that nobody has chimed in suggesting vim yet. If you already know vim give the winmanager plugin a try. I''ve found that I''m much faster using (G)Vim, the winmanager plugin and yakuake''s tabs to handle webrick and "tail -f" my log files than when using radrails, komodo or textmate. Plus Vim 7 has intelligent code completion support for ruby, which is pretty sweet. I think that no matter what you use though, as long as you use it long enough you''re going to get really good with it. You know now that I think of it, it would be pretty cool if there was a place on the rails wiki with snapshots and descriptions of people''s development environment to see generally how they have things set up. Could be useful for people looking to try out new setup and/or environment. It would also give us "you-can-pry-my-editor-from-my-cold-dead-fingers" kind of people a place to show off :) My $0.02, Rob On 5/18/06, Piet Hadermann <piet.hadermann@seagha.com> wrote:> > I have used Komodo since V2.3 or something (for perl/php back then) and > have been using it now for about 2 months for rails development. > > I was also bothered by the issues you described below, but to be honest I > think these are the only shortcomings I found (besides some weird (bug?) > behaviour with key-sequences from copied snippets, find dialog always going > fullscreen... and the price ofcourse, but my employer paid for it) > I would also like to see (beside fixes to the below issues) some kind of > automatic jumping between controller/view though. > > I set up my komodo ''toolbox'' (besides a bunch of snippets) with shortcuts > to view my controllers/models directory, do a diff (using kdiff) with my > latest ''clean'' version (to get side-by-side diff), to open much used files > (like .css), top start the rails console or irb,... With function keys I can > switch between my different desktops, that have a firefox, tora, komodo > ofcourse, webrick output and a tail of the development.log. > > I''m running it on linux (that is, at work I''m using cygwin/x on wxp to > connect to a linux machine, at home I''m running it ''directly'' on linux... > both under kde) and have not experienced a slow interface in any way. > > my 2 cents... > > Piet. > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto: > rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] *On Behalf Of *Jake Pugster > *Sent:* donderdag 18 mei 2006 2:15 > *To:* rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > *Subject:* [Rails] Re: IDE recommendations? > > Is there anyone here using Komodo Professional for Rails work? Just > curious > because I can''t stand it. I tried it for a week''s work and the biggest > setback for me is the slow interface. The interface is very unresponsive. > The built-in subversion client is a joke, and you can''t even do 2-pane > diffs. Adding/removing files to the project is also quite a chore, as the > application doesn''t detect new files in the file system. You have to > manually add each one through File | Add File. Another thing about is > despite the massive amount of bugs in their online tracking system, > Activestate only managed to release a 0.0.1 revision in eight months. > > "Brian Chamberlain" <blchamberlain@gmail.com> > wrote in message > news:27d16bdf0605171255m393d31abp8e05876c3586220e@mail.gmail.com... > Have you checked out Komodo? (http://www.activestate.com/) > It''s pretty nice...not sure about auto complete though... > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060518/f21ec338/attachment.html
Marcus Blankenship wrote:> I agree Ross. I am a Vim junkie, but when you are new to a > language/library, having that list of methods/properties can''t be beat. > Especially when the function signature is right there too... > >Currently available in Vim7, in addition there is a snippet (TextMate macro) plugin which allows you to use textmate macros in vim. Vim''s omni-completion operates on the current buffer and uses ruby to interrogate the classes and variables, it gets its info from the interpreter not a static list. Check it out, vim tends to grow on you. I''ll see about packaging up my win32 bins w/ ruby support as the main distro does not seem to have ruby support compiled in. Screenshots of completion: http://blog.hasno.info/blog/segfault/dev/2006/04/10/vim-7-ruby-omni-completion.html SnippetMagic link: http://blog.rosejn.net/articles/2006/02/28/snippetmagic-0-02 --mark> What that doesn''t give you is autocomplete in the true sense. TextMate > looks like it has some very nice macro expansion but not a true > autocomplete. My definition of ac is to type an object name a period > and then see a list of methods available for that object. As some other > poster said it''s a great way to investigate/learn complex class > heirarchies without having to constantly refer to the docs. > > Of course I''m not a Mac or TextMate user so I could be WAY off base > here. TextMate looks to have very powerful macro expansion but so do > many others (perhaps not as nice tho). > > Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to > a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. > Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and > without help they could create a text document. This is not really the > case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get > it". > > Ross > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Mark Guzman wrote:> Vim 7 compiled with Ruby apparently can have autocomplete but I''m yet to > a) compile it on Win32 or b) find a compiled version with Ruby embedded. > Vim is not for the timid though. Throw a novice at most editors and > without help they could create a text document. This is not really the > case with Vim it has an almost vertical learning curve until you "get > it". > > Ross >Done. I''ve built vim7 for w32 w/ ruby, python, multibyte, ime and HUGE. Its optimized for i686 SSE2. Available at http://blog.hasno.info/blog/segfault/dev/2006/05/18/vim-7-with-ruby-and-python.html --mark -- sic transit gloria et adulescentia blog | http://blog.hasno.info/blog wiki | http://wiki.hasno.info
Just to throw in my two cents: 1. Jedit can look good: http://www.bdcsoftware.com/development/rubyonrails/jedit2.png http://www.bdcsoftware.com/dev_rubyonrails_dreamweaver_codehints.php 2. SuperAbbrv for Jedit are in my opinion better then text mate 3. Jedit does have ruby class completion But, the one IDE I am holding my breath for is: http://www.sapphiresteel.com/
Rob Chimed in with>I''m surprised that nobody has chimed in suggesting vim yet.Did a couple of days ago ;-D. Only downside of Vim is the steep learning curve. It''s a little harder that most modern editors to get going but Vim would have to be one of the most powerful editors on the planet (no cat calls from the TextMate or Emacs crowds). Does anyone have a handle on a binary of Vim 7 for Win32 native with Ruby support plugged in? Ross
Mark Guzman you are a legend. Thanks> I''ve built vim7 for w32 w/ ruby, python, multibyte, ime > and HUGE. > Its optimized for i686 SSE2. > Available at > http://blog.hasno.info/blog/segfault/dev/2006/05/18/vim-7-with-ruby-and-python.html --mark