This has the look of a "just don''t quite get it yet" problem. I am using the ActiveRecord.find_by_id method to identify the parent object (Quiz) to tie to the child object (Question) at create time. Here is the stdout log: 127.0.0.1 - - [31/Mar/2006:22:43:22 CST] "GET /question/new? parent_quiz=ff2d7022-be0a-11da-9f01-00400506faf5 HTTP/1.1" 200 806 http://localhost:3000/questions?parent_quiz=ff2d7022- be0a-11da-9f01-00400506faf5 -> /question/new?parent_quiz=ff2d7022- be0a-11da-9f01-00400506faf5 ------------------------------ Parent = nil ------------------------------ Parent should be = ff2d7022-be0a-11da-9f01-00400506faf5 127.0.0.1 - - [31/Mar/2006:22:43:23 CST] "POST /question/create HTTP/1.1" 500 7042 http://localhost:3000/question/new?parent_quiz=ff2d7022- be0a-11da-9f01-00400506faf5 -> /question/create Here is the code for question: class Question < ActiveRecord::Base require ''presentations'' require ''question'' include UUIDHelper has_many :answers, :order => :seq belongs_to :presentation, :class_name => "Presentations", :foreign_key => :presentation_id belongs_to :parent, :class_name => "Quiz" acts_as_list :scope => :parent_id, :column => :seq end Here is the code for question_controller: def create # changed because we are instantiating the presentations here # may not be needed if we instantiate presentations in the initialize, # but that will require thinking because we already have a use for # the initialize method. @question = Question.new aParent = Quiz.find_by_id(params[:parent_quiz]) STDOUT.print("\r\n------------------------------\r\n") STDOUT.print("Parent = ",aParent,"\r\n") @question.parent = aParent @question.presentation = Presentations.new @question.presentation.textvalue = @params [:question][:presentation][:textvalue] STDOUT.print("\r\n------------------------------\r\n") STDOUT.print("Parent should be = ",params[:parent_quiz],"\r\n") -- *** Blows up here *** STDOUT.print("Parent = ",@question.parent.id.to_str,"\r\n") if @question.presentation.save && @question.save flash[:notice] = ''Question was successfully created.'' redirect_to :action => ''list'', :parent_quiz => params [:parent_quiz], :question => params[:question] else render :action => ''new'' end end