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Am 03.03.2006 um 01:06 schrieb Conrad Taylor:> Hi, I''m looking at getting some hosting to support RoR > development. Thus, how would you rate Dream Host?I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are very responsive, able and have fair plans. *m
I''d rate it SLOW for rails On 3/2/06, Conrad Taylor <conradwt@gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi, I''m looking at getting some hosting to support RoR development. Thus, > how would you rate Dream Host? > > Thanks in advance, > > > -Conrad > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060303/24a46aeb/attachment.html
Their shared plans are pretty slow - and it used to be worse. I have a client who wanted to skimp on hosting and chose to go with them because they were cheap. The problem I guess is that your application gets paged out of memory if it doesn''t get enough hits and so the first hit back has a startup penalty of paging the data back into ram. There also was a time where FCGI was busted but it seems to be working well these days. You get what you pay for IMHO. -- seth at subimage interactive http://www.subimage.com/sublog/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060303/6092bf4b/attachment.html
I host three sites with them, but I can''t attest to their Rails support since I have not yet used it. However, like the others have pointed out, it can be slow at times, but I''ve never had in outage in over two years. But, others may have a different story to tell. They also, do some strange things with unix users and MySQL DBs that I wish I could change, but alas, I cannot. Overall, I find it reasonable for my own personal use, but I have not yet been in a situation where I''ve needed to do hosting for a business and cannot attest to their quality on that end. But, as shared hosting goes... be wary. Like it has been said, you can get what you pay for. Best, Ryan On 3/2/06, subimage interactive <subimage@gmail.com> wrote:> > Their shared plans are pretty slow - and it used to be worse. I have a > client who wanted to skimp on hosting and chose to go with them because they > were cheap. > > The problem I guess is that your application gets paged out of memory if > it doesn''t get enough hits and so the first hit back has a startup penalty > of paging the data back into ram. > > There also was a time where FCGI was busted but it seems to be working > well these days. > > You get what you pay for IMHO. > -- > seth at subimage interactive > http://www.subimage.com/sublog/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-- Ryan Prins rprins@gmail.com http://www.lazyi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060303/73583d58/attachment.html
Except TextDrive isn''t for testing/development. I just came across this today: http://www.textdrive.com/faqs/16 On 03/03/06, Manuel Holtgrewe <purestorm@ggnore.net> wrote:> I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are > very responsive, able and have fair plans. > > *m-- Cheers, Serdar Kilic http://weblog.kilic.net/
Why would you need to test/develop on your shared host as opposed to =20 doing that on your local box and then deploying to your shared host? -S On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Serdar K=F5l=F5=8D wrote:> Except TextDrive isn''t for testing/development. I just came across =20 > this today: > > http://www.textdrive.com/faqs/16 > > On 03/03/06, Manuel Holtgrewe <purestorm@ggnore.net> wrote: > >> I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are >> very responsive, able and have fair plans. >> >> *m > > -- > Cheers, > Serdar Kilic > http://weblog.kilic.net/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Because replicating the host environment on your local box is often difficult, if not impossible... and, at the very least, would make development a lot slower. On 3/2/06, Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> wrote:> > Why would you need to test/develop on your shared host as opposed to > doing that on your local box and then deploying to your shared host? > > -S > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Serdar K?l?? wrote: > > > Except TextDrive isn''t for testing/development. I just came across > > this today: > > > > http://www.textdrive.com/faqs/16 > > > > On 03/03/06, Manuel Holtgrewe <purestorm@ggnore.net> wrote: > > > >> I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are > >> very responsive, able and have fair plans. > >> > >> *m > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Serdar Kilic > > http://weblog.kilic.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060303/0ad9f486/attachment.html
Yeah, if you''re not developing locally and deploying to your host, TextDrive isn''t the place for you. You need to be somewhere where your mistakes won''t hurt other folks. --Scott On 3/2/06, ben wiseley <wiseleyb@gmail.com> wrote:> Because replicating the host environment on your local box is often > difficult, if not impossible... and, at the very least, would make > development a lot slower.
I don''t know about you, but I don''t want my live site running on a shared host where there are others developing/testing. All those others starting/stopping Ruby processes and web servers while my site is trying to serve. No thanks. -S On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, ben wiseley wrote:> Because replicating the host environment on your local box is often > difficult, if not impossible... and, at the very least, would make > development a lot slower. > > On 3/2/06, Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> wrote: > Why would you need to test/develop on your shared host as opposed to > doing that on your local box and then deploying to your shared host? > > -S > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Serdar K?l?? wrote: > > > Except TextDrive isn''t for testing/development. I just came across > > this today: > > > > http://www.textdrive.com/faqs/16 > > > > On 03/03/06, Manuel Holtgrewe <purestorm@ggnore.net > wrote: > > > >> I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are > >> very responsive, able and have fair plans. > >> > >> *m > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Serdar Kilic > > http://weblog.kilic.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060303/17a99b96/attachment-0001.html
You (I) generally wouldn''t, the only testing that I''d probably do is some general usability, or a pre-release (invite only) testing. But at that stage your application will be pretty much stable and hopefully wouldn''t misbehave. On 03/03/06, Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> wrote:> Why would you need to test/develop on your shared host as opposed to > doing that on your local box and then deploying to your shared host? > > -S-- Cheers, Serdar Kilic http://weblog.kilic.net/
Can only echo what others have said. Dreamhost is dead cheap, and I''ve had no problems with outages. The few support questions I''ve posed have been answered quickly enough, and I think they''re a very good deal. OTOH, when my Dreamhost site is idle for a while, the first hit to it takes several seconds to respond (presumably while my stuff is being paged back in on their servers). For the price, it can''t be beat. If the paging-out bothers you, then you might want to consider skipping over all shared hosting servers and looking at one of the Xen-based providers where you get a (virtual) machine all to yourself, with dedicated resources. The cost jumps significantly for this level of service. I''m possibly nearing that point with one app, but haven''t yet made the leap. Regards Dave M. On 03/03/06, Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> wrote:> I don''t know about you, but I don''t want my live site running on a shared > host where there are others developing/testing. All those others > starting/stopping Ruby processes and web servers while my site is trying to > serve. No thanks. > > -S > > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, ben wiseley wrote: > Because replicating the host environment on your local box is often > difficult, if not impossible... and, at the very least, would make > development a lot slower. > > On 3/2/06, Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> wrote: > > Why would you need to test/develop on your shared host as opposed to > > doing that on your local box and then deploying to your shared host? > > > > -S > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Serdar K?l?? wrote: > > > > > Except TextDrive isn''t for testing/development. I just came across > > > this today: > > > > > > http://www.textdrive.com/faqs/16 > > > > > > On 03/03/06, Manuel Holtgrewe <purestorm@ggnore.net > wrote: > > > > > >> I don''t know DreamHost but I can only recommend Textdrive. They are > > >> very responsive, able and have fair plans. > > >> > > >> *m > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > Serdar Kilic > > > http://weblog.kilic.net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Hi, thank you all for getting back to me. I simply wanted to get a host
that supports RoR development for my potential clients to view my portfolio
as well as execute the demos there. If I''m going to sell them on RoR,
then
it simply needs to work and work very well. At this time, I''m doing
local
development and testing on my local box (i.e Mac OS X). In additional to
getting a hosting account, I need the following:
a) Definitive guide to configuring the most efficient RoR + Apache
development environment (i.e. Mac OS 10.4 Client) locally. At this
time, I have seen too many blog posts about this and I''m not sure
which
one to follow. I need this information just in the invent that
they, my client, is with a hosting company that doesn''t have
support
for RoR. This information I will supply to the hosting company.
In short, I need detail steps as to how to achieve this task.
b) Definitive list as to what gems and/or plugins one needs as a
professional developer that one can use in both development and
production.
If anyone needs any additional information, please post a message to the
group and I''ll respond at my earliest convience. Well, I must go and
thanks
in advance.
-Conrad
On 3/2/06, Scott Hill <stmpjmpr@gmail.com> wrote:>
> Yeah, if you''re not developing locally and deploying to your host,
> TextDrive isn''t the place for you. You need to be somewhere where
your
> mistakes won''t hurt other folks.
>
> --Scott
>
> On 3/2/06, ben wiseley <wiseleyb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Because replicating the host environment on your local box is often
> > difficult, if not impossible... and, at the very least, would make
> > development a lot slower.
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Conrad Taylor wrote:> If anyone needs any additional information, please post a message to the > group and I''ll respond at my earliest convience. Well, I must go and > thanks > in advance. >I would be interested in knowing how your Dreamhost experience goes. I''m on dreamhost and have really liked their tech support, but their rails support seems a bit lacking. My site (www.hawksnews.com) does not get much traffic and once in a while (once a day, perhaps) I get a 500 error. Simply refreshing the browser solves the problem. I haven''t been able to figure out why and some other Rails developers have complained of the same problem. I suspect it has something to do with the MySQL setup but I''m not expert enough to figure it out. Thanks Jeff -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I get this too with a site I run - www.ssscr.org - mysterious occasional 500 error. Sucks! So does the 200-emails-an-hour limit. Everything else about Dreamhost rules though. I would recommend them. But I too am about to make the switch to VPS. -- Scott Becker Web Developer Electro Interactive www.ElectroInteractive.com On 3/2/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff@gmail.com> wrote:> Conrad Taylor wrote: > > If anyone needs any additional information, please post a message to the > > group and I''ll respond at my earliest convience. Well, I must go and > > thanks > > in advance. > > > > I would be interested in knowing how your Dreamhost experience goes. > > I''m on dreamhost and have really liked their tech support, but their > rails support seems a bit lacking. My site (www.hawksnews.com) does not > get much traffic and once in a while (once a day, perhaps) I get a 500 > error. Simply refreshing the browser solves the problem. I haven''t > been able to figure out why and some other Rails developers have > complained of the same problem. I suspect it has something to do with > the MySQL setup but I''m not expert enough to figure it out. > > Thanks > Jeff > > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I like http://railsplayground.com/ ... haven''t used for production, but I don''t plan on hosting any heavy traffic sites. On 3/2/06, Scott Becker <becker.scott@gmail.com> wrote:> I get this too with a site I run - www.ssscr.org - mysterious > occasional 500 error. Sucks! So does the 200-emails-an-hour limit. > Everything else about Dreamhost rules though. I would recommend them. > But I too am about to make the switch to VPS. > > -- > Scott Becker > Web Developer > > Electro Interactive > www.ElectroInteractive.com > > > > On 3/2/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff@gmail.com> wrote: > > Conrad Taylor wrote: > > > If anyone needs any additional information, please post a message to the > > > group and I''ll respond at my earliest convience. Well, I must go and > > > thanks > > > in advance. > > > > > > > I would be interested in knowing how your Dreamhost experience goes. > > > > I''m on dreamhost and have really liked their tech support, but their > > rails support seems a bit lacking. My site (www.hawksnews.com) does not > > get much traffic and once in a while (once a day, perhaps) I get a 500 > > error. Simply refreshing the browser solves the problem. I haven''t > > been able to figure out why and some other Rails developers have > > complained of the same problem. I suspect it has something to do with > > the MySQL setup but I''m not expert enough to figure it out. > > > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- http://PhpGirl.blogger.com http://CodeSnipers.com
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Scott Becker wrote:> But I too am about to make the switch to VPS.What we did was buy a Mac mini and get it colocated -- $500 for the box (the older PowerPC model) and a $50 colocation per month at a local ISP is way, way better than paying $90 a month to be a share on a system. Ubuntu "server" runs on it. I realize a Mac mini is not "data center grade" but really, it doesn''t matter. We do backups off it to a disk on site. I''d call around -- many local ISPs will do simple colocation for great prices. --Jim
Jim Zajkowski wrote:> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Scott Becker wrote: > >> But I too am about to make the switch to VPS. > > What we did was buy a Mac mini and get it colocated -- $500 for the box > (the older PowerPC model) and a $50 colocation per month at a local ISP > is way, way better than paying $90 a month to be a share on a system. > Ubuntu "server" runs on it. > > I realize a Mac mini is not "data center grade" but really, it doesn''t > matter. We do backups off it to a disk on site. > > I''d call around -- many local ISPs will do simple colocation for great > prices.Jim - if you don''t mind me asking, what bandwidth are you getting at that price? TIA Justin
i''ve been looking at server4you which gives you a dedicated box for 40/mo. On 3/4/06, Justin Forder <justin@justinforder.me.uk> wrote:> > Jim Zajkowski wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Scott Becker wrote: > > > >> But I too am about to make the switch to VPS. > > > > What we did was buy a Mac mini and get it colocated -- $500 for the box > > (the older PowerPC model) and a $50 colocation per month at a local ISP > > is way, way better than paying $90 a month to be a share on a system. > > Ubuntu "server" runs on it. > > > > I realize a Mac mini is not "data center grade" but really, it doesn''t > > matter. We do backups off it to a disk on site. > > > > I''d call around -- many local ISPs will do simple colocation for great > > prices. > > Jim - if you don''t mind me asking, what bandwidth are you getting at > that price? > > TIA > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060305/2998a3b1/attachment-0001.html
Ryan Prins wrote:> but I''ve never had in outage in over two years.with DreamHost? Do you mind if I ask what server you''re on? I think DH is a great first step for most developers. Yes DH has a keen watchdog for runaway fastcgi processes, but as they aren''t leaking I don''t believe they get killed (how are you keeping track of this?). Cheers, ~William http://www.railshosting.org ...helping Rails developers find hosting and deploy their apps -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.