Hi, I want to add the basic model record create tests for my rails app as in the "Agile Web Development with Rails" example: i.e. (header stuff and boring repitition missed) def test_create assert_kind_of Requirement, requirements(:requirement_1) assert_equal <at>requirements["requirement_1"]["name"], requirements(:requirement_1).name end Now I''m not supposed to use <at>requirements since that''s slow but how do I now "get" to the Fixture values, as opposed to the Requirement class object created from those values? I thought that requirements(:requirement_1)["created_on"] would be the go but it worries me that: requirements(:requirement_1).class is "Requirement" and (when I turn it back on) @requirements["requirement_1"].class is "Fixture" This is probably post Java programming paranoia but I''d hate to write a bunch of tests validating that a=a :-) I''ve had a read of the fixtures questions on the rails list, had a read of the HowtoUnitTest, read MikeClark''s Weblog but no-one seems to do exactly this. I''m afraid my Ruby isn''t yet up to working this out from fixtures.rb (though I''ve had an interesting read) Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Tony