I do ''@item.datetime.to_formatted_s(:rfc822)'' and it outputs: 2003-08-06T04:12:00-0600 '':db'' doesn''t work either, but '':short'' does. How can I output rfc822 without actually putting all that awful % code in my templates? I''ve also tried this in environment.rb, but it still doesn''t work: ActiveSupport::CoreExtensions::Time::Conversions::DATE_FORMATS.merge!(:rfc822 => "%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z") Also, why does strftime() work, but not rfc822()? thanks csn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com