So, RoR is better at grammer than I. Well so is my nine year old. If I have a table named "people_type" will Rails see this as singular because of the _type or will it consider it the plural of "person_type" ? Is there a link to Rails that lists what words it knows, or what words not to use in table design etc. Kindest regards. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Jan 2, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Andy Park wrote:> So, RoR is better at grammer than I. Well so is my nine year old. > > If I have a table named "people_type" will Rails see this as singular > because of the _type or will it consider it the plural of > "person_type" > ? > > Is there a link to Rails that lists what words it knows, or what words > not to use in table design etc. > > Kindest regards. > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >Andy- Topfunky has put up an excellent tool for figuring out what rails thinks the plural of a word is. You can find it here: http://nubyonrails.com/tools/pluralize Cheers- -Ezra Zygmuntowicz WebMaster Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper ezra@yakima-herald.com 509-577-7732
Hi Andy, On 1/2/06, Andy Park <celtichuddle@mac.com> wrote:> So, RoR is better at grammer than I. Well so is my nine year old. > > If I have a table named "people_type" will Rails see this as singular > because of the _type or will it consider it the plural of "person_type" > ? > > Is there a link to Rails that lists what words it knows, or what words > not to use in table design etc.You can use Ruby to find out how Rails'' naming conventions work: | % script/console | Loading development environment. What table name should be used for the PersonType model? | >> "PersonType".tableize | => "person_types" What model does the table named "people_type" map to? | >> "people_type".classify | => "PeopleType" Does this match what Rails expects for the PeopleType model? | >> "PeopleType".tableize | => "people_types" No -- if the model is called PeopleType, we need to use "people_types" for the table name instead. You can make a method which automates this check for you: | >> class String | >> def canonical_table_name? | >> self == classify.tableize | >> end | >> end | => nil | >> "person_types".canonical_table_name? | => true | >> "people_type".canonical_table_name? | => false -- sam
Sam, Ezra Outstanding! thankyou both, great information. Regards. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Which now leads me to... If I have two tables "people" - id - name & "person_types" - id - kind Am I right in thinking that the row in "person" linking too "person_types" should be ; "people" - id - name - PersonType_id (as opposed to "person_types_id") Again, many thanks for your time. Kindest reagrds. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Jan 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Park wrote:> Which now leads me to... > > If I have two tables > > "people" > - id > - name > > & > > "person_types" > - id > - kind > > Am I right in thinking that the row in "person" linking too > "person_types" should be ; > > "people" > - id > - name > - PersonType_id (as opposed to "person_types_id")Stranger yet. :-) person_type_id, because it only points to one type. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini
Thanks Tom. I think I need to watch The Life of Brian again. Remember the bit with the Centurian, when Brian is writing graffiti on the palace wall? The Centurion catches him in the act. Centurion: What''s this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house? Brian: It says, "Romans go home. " Centurion: No it doesn''t ! What''s the latin for "Roman"? Come on, come on ! Brian: Er, "Romanus" ! Centurion: Vocative plural of "Romanus" is? and on it goes .... -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
:-) -- -- Tom Mornini On Jan 2, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Andy Park wrote:> Thanks Tom. > > I think I need to watch The Life of Brian again. Remember the bit with > the Centurian, when Brian is writing graffiti on the palace wall? The > Centurion catches him in the act. > > Centurion: What''s this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called > Romanes, they go, the house? > > Brian: It says, "Romans go home. " > > Centurion: No it doesn''t ! What''s the latin for "Roman"? Come on, come > on ! > > Brian: Er, "Romanus" ! > > Centurion: Vocative plural of "Romanus" is? > > and on it goes ....
For my first RoR test app I tried to use the table "books". The singular form I wanted was invoice, credit report, payment, etc. Happily I realized the futulity of this before I even got started. I still plan to do something real along the lines of the above. Maybe "records"? On 1/2/06, Andy Park <celtichuddle@mac.com> wrote:> So, RoR is better at grammer than I. Well so is my nine year old. > > If I have a table named "people_type" will Rails see this as singular > because of the _type or will it consider it the plural of "person_type" > ? > > Is there a link to Rails that lists what words it knows, or what words > not to use in table design etc. > > Kindest regards. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century
Andy Park wrote:> If I have a table named "people_type" will Rails see this as singular > because of the _type or will it consider it the plural of "person_type"?If your terminology is awkward to use, it may indicate a poor choice for the term. Why don''t you consider a term that more naturally reflects the concept, such as "role", "officer_grade" or "job_description"? In a journalism class I was told to avoid using the word "people" as it is usually too generic, and I find that advice serves me well in model terminology as well. By the way, someone should let the Rails pluralizer know that the plural of mother_in_law is mothers_in_law :-) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
joshua wrote:> If your terminology is awkward to use, it may indicate a poor choice for > the term. Why don''t you consider a term that more naturally reflects the > concept, such as "role", "officer_grade" or "job_description"? In a > journalism class I was told to avoid using the word "people" as it is > usually too generic, and I find that advice serves me well in model > terminology as well.Noted, and I agree, but..... A "person" may be or have a -- role --- officer_grade ---- job_description I understand what you are saying and I like the way Rails makes you really think "Naming" something rather seriously. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Hi Everyone, I''m having problem with naming conventions. I''ve 2 tables (states and steps), states has id, name, message, and step_id but when I go to http://127.0.0.1:3000/state it only pulls up the first 3 columns. If I change step_id to stepid, it will show up but I want to be able to show db info with names with underscore. How can this be dones? Thanks, Nika random at tangaz dot net Andy Park wrote:> Which now leads me to... > > If I have two tables > > "people" > - id > - name > > & > > "person_types" > - id > - kind > > Am I right in thinking that the row in "person" linking too > "person_types" should be ; > > "people" > - id > - name > - PersonType_id (as opposed to "person_types_id") > > Again, many thanks for your time. > > Kindest reagrds.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
That''s not related to naming conventions. That is related to how scaffolding works. Please make a new post for this if you require more help. On 6/14/06, Nika Ta <tangaz@gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi Everyone, > > I''m having problem with naming conventions. > I''ve 2 tables (states and steps), states has id, name, message, and > step_id > but when I go to http://127.0.0.1:3000/state it only pulls up the first > 3 columns. > If I change step_id to stepid, it will show up but I want to be able to > show db info with names with underscore. How can this be dones? > Thanks, > Nika > > random at tangaz dot net > > > Andy Park wrote: > > Which now leads me to... > > > > If I have two tables > > > > "people" > > - id > > - name > > > > & > > > > "person_types" > > - id > > - kind > > > > Am I right in thinking that the row in "person" linking too > > "person_types" should be ; > > > > "people" > > - id > > - name > > - PersonType_id (as opposed to "person_types_id") > > > > Again, many thanks for your time. > > > > Kindest reagrds. > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060614/53072220/attachment.html
Nika Ta wrote:> I''m having problem with naming conventions. > I''ve 2 tables (states and steps), states has id, name, message, and > step_id > but when I go to http://127.0.0.1:3000/state it only pulls up the first > 3 columns. > If I change step_id to stepid, it will show up but I want to be able to > show db info with names with underscore. How can this be dones?This is just a guess, but it may be that RoR is interpreting step_id as a reference (i.e., a foreign key) to the steps table. What do your state_controller.rb index method and state/index.rhtml file look like? hth, Bill