hallo, i would heavily like to get some feedback on our rails-based cms: rcms.oopen.de so, if some could find the time an try it i''d be pleased.. greetings rene
On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Rene Paulokat wrote:> > hallo, > i would heavily like to get some feedback on our rails-based cms: > rcms.oopen.de > > so, if some could find the time an try it i''d be pleased.. > > greetings > reneRene- Wow, this looks like a very extensive project. i will install it and give you some feedback. Cheers- -Ezra Zygmuntowicz WebMaster Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org 509-577-7732
Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:> On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Rene Paulokat wrote: > >> >> hallo, >> i would heavily like to get some feedback on our rails-based cms: >> rcms.oopen.de >> >> so, if some could find the time an try it i''d be pleased.. >> >> greetings >> rene > > Rene- > > Wow, this looks like a very extensive project. i will install it and > give you some feedback. > > Cheers- > > -Ezra Zygmuntowicz > WebMaster > Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper > ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org > 509-577-7732Rene, I would like to evaluate this, do you have some screenshots of this application ? Thanks Binu -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:36:49AM +0100, Binu Dasappan wrote:> Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > > On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Rene Paulokat wrote: > >(feedback for)> >> rcms.oopen.de > > Rene, > > I would like to evaluate this, do you have some screenshots of this > application ?right - i''ll arrange some more visible impressions today. thanks rene
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 01:20:46PM +0100, Rene Paulokat wrote:> On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:36:49AM +0100, Binu Dasappan wrote: > > Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > > > On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Rene Paulokat wrote: > > > > (feedback for) > > >> rcms.oopen.de > > > > Rene, > > > > I would like to evaluate this, do you have some screenshots of this > > application ? > > right - i''ll arrange some more visible impressions today.done; see: http://rcms.oopen.de/About/Screenshots greetings rene
On 17-dec-2005, at 5:07, Rene Paulokat wrote:> > hallo, > i would heavily like to get some feedback on our rails-based cms: > rcms.oopen.de > > so, if some could find the time an try it i''d be pleased..Rene. I''m curious - what are the use cases of this CMS? What kind of sites is it designed for? What kind of management interface it provides? For what user groups (or companies) has it been designed? What is the expected format the site should be created in? This is not an attempt to flame anyone, would you just take some care to explain not the "bulleted feature list", but the intentions and the concept of the system? After that you might not only get users, but contributors!
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 07:20:29PM +0100, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote: (...)> Rene. I''m curious - what are the use cases of this CMS? > What kind of sites is it designed for? What kind of management > interface it provides? For what user groups (or companies) has it > been designed? What is the expected format the site should be created > in?well, - the idea behind our attempt to create this application, (others might say *another cms*) was: we (i''m engaged in a non-profit community-oriented small isp ''so36.net'') always wanted a lightweight cms to offer to our users. we often didnt like/trust existing php''ish ones and also didnt have the ressources to run many systems on e.g. java-servlets. these are some pragmatic reasons. furthermore we are mainly involved with, ore coop with environmental-, ngo-like structures, so this makes up the focus of ''rcms'' - a text-oriented publishing system, which empowers unexperienced users/organisations to concentrate on content-production whilest not beeing forced into beefing up their html-skills or buying in professionals they often cant afford. so it seems as if ruby/rails, because of its potential clean structure and redcloth/textile for its ease of use do make up a good base to build up on. hope this short version answeres some of your questions. kind regerds rene
Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote:> > On 17-dec-2005, at 5:07, Rene Paulokat wrote: > >> >> hallo, >> i would heavily like to get some feedback on our rails-based cms: >> rcms.oopen.de >> >> so, if some could find the time an try it i''d be pleased.. > > > > Rene. I''m curious - what are the use cases of this CMS? > What kind of sites is it designed for? What kind of management > interface it provides? For what user groups (or companies) has it > been designed? What is the expected format the site should be created > in? > > This is not an attempt to flame anyone, would you just take some care > to explain not the "bulleted feature list", but the intentions and > the concept of the system? After that you might not only get users, > but contributors!Yes. I''m looking for a CMS that does less modules/files/images and more general pages. Something that can update pages like a blog but, would have far more flexability when it comes to content types. Something between a full-blown CMS like Mambo/PHP-Nuke and something more minimal like a bare framework. I need something that will make writing simple corporate websites easier. Most of the work involved in that would be the Information Architecture; menus, copy approval/corrections, linking and context and easy flexible ways of skinning/templating the pages. My ideal would even be to have a standard way of templating/skinning so that we could train a designer how to do it once and they wouldn''t have to relearn syntax and file management for every project. While I keep looking for things (and I would love if this was all done in Rails) I''m coming closer and closer to just writing it myself. -- Emmanuel Mwangi - Director of Web Development Mustang Networking Ph: (562) 508-3388 Fax: (909) 972-9720 www.mustnet.us _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Just go ahead and write it yourself. :) I was in much the same position as you are when it came to looking for a pseudo CMS. I didn''t need all the bells and whistles a lot of the current solutions offer. I needed something that could: *Edit chunks of code(html) with a WYSIWYG editor (used tiny_mce in my case) *Be able to break things down into pretty urls with what appear to seperate directory when in fact almost all the pages work off the same template *Upload and maintain static assets (pdfs, swfs, etc) *Searchable contents for both assets and the pages themselves. *Have things like news events and such that can be posted/displayed/edit *Be easy to run from non-techy side (marketing folk in charge of all the content). Along with this standard CMS stuff we also have the need for user registration, and will eventually have a more interactive section of the site that will done in rails (currently in java/tapestry). I am the sole developer on this project, and while I''ve had plenty of java web stuff under the belt, was new to rails. Even with that its only taken a little over a month to get the fundation laid, and we are almost ready to go live. Actually waiting more on the content side then the backend side, but I''m still refining and cleaning stuff up as I always will be. -Nick p.s. Performance wise I haven''t done anything with caching yet or the like, I''m going to wait to see if we actually need it as the current site does not come under heavy loads. On 12/19/05, Emmanuel Mwangi <emmanuelm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> While I keep looking for things (and I would love if this was all done > in Rails) I''m coming closer and closer to just writing it myself. > > -- > Emmanuel Mwangi - Director of Web Development > Mustang Networking > > Ph: (562) 508-3388 > Fax: (909) 972-9720 > www.mustnet.us > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > >
What are you using for a search engine? also does anyone know of anything that will index the contents of word & pdf documents? On 12/19/05, Nick Stuart <nicholas.stuart-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Just go ahead and write it yourself. :) I was in much the same > position as you are when it came to looking for a pseudo CMS. I didn''t > need all the bells and whistles a lot of the current solutions offer. > I needed something that could: > *Edit chunks of code(html) with a WYSIWYG editor (used tiny_mce in my > case) > *Be able to break things down into pretty urls with what appear to > seperate directory when in fact almost all the pages work off the same > template > *Upload and maintain static assets (pdfs, swfs, etc) > *Searchable contents for both assets and the pages themselves. > *Have things like news events and such that can be posted/displayed/edit > > *Be easy to run from non-techy side (marketing folk in charge of all > the content). > > Along with this standard CMS stuff we also have the need for user > registration, and will eventually have a more interactive section of > the site that will done in rails (currently in java/tapestry). > > I am the sole developer on this project, and while I''ve had plenty of > java web stuff under the belt, was new to rails. Even with that its > only taken a little over a month to get the fundation laid, and we are > almost ready to go live. Actually waiting more on the content side > then the backend side, but I''m still refining and cleaning stuff up as > I always will be. > > -Nick > > p.s. Performance wise I haven''t done anything with caching yet or the > like, I''m going to wait to see if we actually need it as the current > site does not come under heavy loads. > > On 12/19/05, Emmanuel Mwangi <emmanuelm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > While I keep looking for things (and I would love if this was all done > > in Rails) I''m coming closer and closer to just writing it myself. > > > > -- > > Emmanuel Mwangi - Director of Web Development > > Mustang Networking > > > > Ph: (562) 508-3388 > > Fax: (909) 972-9720 > > www.mustnet.us > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Steven Ross web application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I''m using a combination of ferret and java Lucene (which are like brothers to each other). The reason I have to use java at all is because I need (like you it appears) to have a way to index PDF files. There currently aren''t any good PDF readers out there in Ruby land that I could find, so I used a java library called PDFBox which works fine for my needs. I do use ferret to index all the managed content (pages/etc), while Lucene indexs all the pdfs and other static contents. One problem though is that ferret is having a rough time trying to search my lucene generated index, although it was working before. (already emailed david about this) -Nick On 12/19/05, Steven Ross <nowhiding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What are you using for a search engine? also does anyone know of anything > that will index the contents of word & pdf documents? > > > On 12/19/05, Nick Stuart <nicholas.stuart-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Just go ahead and write it yourself. :) I was in much the same > > position as you are when it came to looking for a pseudo CMS. I didn''t > > need all the bells and whistles a lot of the current solutions offer. > > I needed something that could: > > *Edit chunks of code(html) with a WYSIWYG editor (used tiny_mce in my > case) > > *Be able to break things down into pretty urls with what appear to > > seperate directory when in fact almost all the pages work off the same > > template > > *Upload and maintain static assets (pdfs, swfs, etc) > > *Searchable contents for both assets and the pages themselves. > > *Have things like news events and such that can be posted/displayed/edit > > > > *Be easy to run from non-techy side (marketing folk in charge of all > > the content). > > > > Along with this standard CMS stuff we also have the need for user > > registration, and will eventually have a more interactive section of > > the site that will done in rails (currently in java/tapestry). > > > > I am the sole developer on this project, and while I''ve had plenty of > > java web stuff under the belt, was new to rails. Even with that its > > only taken a little over a month to get the fundation laid, and we are > > almost ready to go live. Actually waiting more on the content side > > then the backend side, but I''m still refining and cleaning stuff up as > > I always will be. > > > > -Nick > > > > p.s. Performance wise I haven''t done anything with caching yet or the > > like, I''m going to wait to see if we actually need it as the current > > site does not come under heavy loads. > > > > On 12/19/05, Emmanuel Mwangi <emmanuelm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > While I keep looking for things (and I would love if this was all done > > > in Rails) I''m coming closer and closer to just writing it myself. > > > > > > -- > > > Emmanuel Mwangi - Director of Web Development > > > Mustang Networking > > > > > > Ph: (562) 508-3388 > > > Fax: (909) 972-9720 > > > www.mustnet.us > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > -- > Steven Ross > web application & interface developer > http://www.zerium.com > [phone] 404-488-4364 > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Hm, since we have a license of coldfusion (verity under the covers) I''m thinking of just using it and maybe use a webservice to run queries against it). On 12/19/05, Nick Stuart <nicholas.stuart-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I''m using a combination of ferret and java Lucene (which are like > brothers to each other). The reason I have to use java at all is > because I need (like you it appears) to have a way to index PDF files. > > There currently aren''t any good PDF readers out there in Ruby land > that I could find, so I used a java library called PDFBox which works > fine for my needs. > > I do use ferret to index all the managed content (pages/etc), while > Lucene indexs all the pdfs and other static contents. One problem > though is that ferret is having a rough time trying to search my > lucene generated index, although it was working before. (already > emailed david about this) > > -Nick > > On 12/19/05, Steven Ross <nowhiding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > What are you using for a search engine? also does anyone know of > anything > > that will index the contents of word & pdf documents? > > > > > > On 12/19/05, Nick Stuart <nicholas.stuart-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > Just go ahead and write it yourself. :) I was in much the same > > > position as you are when it came to looking for a pseudo CMS. I didn''t > > > need all the bells and whistles a lot of the current solutions offer. > > > I needed something that could: > > > *Edit chunks of code(html) with a WYSIWYG editor (used tiny_mce in my > > case) > > > *Be able to break things down into pretty urls with what appear to > > > seperate directory when in fact almost all the pages work off the same > > > template > > > *Upload and maintain static assets (pdfs, swfs, etc) > > > *Searchable contents for both assets and the pages themselves. > > > *Have things like news events and such that can be > posted/displayed/edit > > > > > > *Be easy to run from non-techy side (marketing folk in charge of all > > > the content). > > > > > > Along with this standard CMS stuff we also have the need for user > > > registration, and will eventually have a more interactive section of > > > the site that will done in rails (currently in java/tapestry). > > > > > > I am the sole developer on this project, and while I''ve had plenty of > > > java web stuff under the belt, was new to rails. Even with that its > > > only taken a little over a month to get the fundation laid, and we are > > > almost ready to go live. Actually waiting more on the content side > > > then the backend side, but I''m still refining and cleaning stuff up as > > > I always will be. > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > p.s. Performance wise I haven''t done anything with caching yet or the > > > like, I''m going to wait to see if we actually need it as the current > > > site does not come under heavy loads. > > > > > > On 12/19/05, Emmanuel Mwangi <emmanuelm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > > While I keep looking for things (and I would love if this was all > done > > > > in Rails) I''m coming closer and closer to just writing it myself. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Emmanuel Mwangi - Director of Web Development > > > > Mustang Networking > > > > > > > > Ph: (562) 508-3388 > > > > Fax: (909) 972-9720 > > > > www.mustnet.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails mailing list > > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Steven Ross > > web application & interface developer > > http://www.zerium.com > > [phone] 404-488-4364 > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Steven Ross web application & interface developer http://www.zerium.com [phone] 404-488-4364 _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Hi, I am new here and also new to rails. Looks VERY promising and I hope I can get quickly deeper into it! Thank all you for this great work!>What are you using for a search engine? also does anyone know of anything >that will index the contents of word & pdf documents?As an rails-newbie I can not tell you what would be the best search engine for rails, but I have made VERY good experiences with swish-e [1] - interfacing via perl API or PHP exec calls. I have not seen a swish-e on rails yet, but if you are investigating a really fast and feature-rich search engine, you should really check it out! Searches seperate tags in xml-files too! Of course I would be more than pleased too see a ruby module for swish-e, as I love to use this totally under-estimated search engine for any web stuff. [1] http://www.swish-e.org/ Have anice day, Rubena