If anyone can point me in the right direction, I''d appreciate it. I thought I''d recently seen an example of a habtm relationship where the join table used an acts_as_list to keep the ordering of the relationship. Does anyone have a slick way of doing this in 1.0, or was it something in edge rails that I''m thinking of? (The new :through parameter maybe?) Thanks, Duane Johnson (canadaduane)