Rails - Dec 2005 - what is the ideal dev enviroment on os x?

hello everyone, i''m just starting out my adventure on rails with mac
osx
and have so far done both the rolling on rails tutorials from onLamp, 
and have tinkered around a bit myself playing with scaffold etc.

I downloaded and printed the excellent four days on rails tutorials pdf 
and as excited to see that i got to have a play around with the code 
that the scaffold generates (as in the onLamp tutorials you don''t get
to
see this, you just re-define aspects of it) i was also however, scared 
to see that it requires a different version of rails to the version i am 
using and wasnt sure how well it would all fare up.

When i first started to get into the idea of developing ror i looke 
around for a nice solution to develop in, i concluded that a combination 
on textmate / locomotive & terminal was best.

Since starting the four days on rails tutorial however, i have had 
nothing but problems, and am starting to think that it is in fact down 
to my development enviroment...

So ruby on rails experts (on mac) i''m asking you this:

What is the best set of tools for developing / learning ruby on rails on 
mac os x 10.4???

my current list:

locomotive (chose for 1 click set-up)
manual ruby / rails install
textmate
mysql 5 (point something)
cocoa mysql (beta) for mysql gui
safari

what do you guys use? what was you learning toolset? why can''t i do
this
bloody four days on rails tutorial? (it just wont do script/generate 
scaffold category on page 9)

please help.

Many Thanks,

Craig

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Looks like your set of tools is fine.

What specific error do you get when trying to run the script/generate?

On Dec 4, 2005, at 9:37 AM, craigtmackenzie wrote:
> hello everyone, i''m just starting out my adventure on rails with  
> mac osx
> and have so far done both the rolling on rails tutorials from onLamp,
> and have tinkered around a bit myself playing with scaffold etc.
>
> I downloaded and printed the excellent four days on rails tutorials  
> pdf
> and as excited to see that i got to have a play around with the code
> that the scaffold generates (as in the onLamp tutorials you don''t
> get to
> see this, you just re-define aspects of it) i was also however, scared
> to see that it requires a different version of rails to the version  
> i am
> using and wasnt sure how well it would all fare up.
>
> When i first started to get into the idea of developing ror i looke
> around for a nice solution to develop in, i concluded that a  
> combination
> on textmate / locomotive & terminal was best.
>
> Since starting the four days on rails tutorial however, i have had
> nothing but problems, and am starting to think that it is in fact down
> to my development enviroment...
>
> So ruby on rails experts (on mac) i''m asking you this:
>
> What is the best set of tools for developing / learning ruby on  
> rails on
> mac os x 10.4???
>
> my current list:
>
> locomotive (chose for 1 click set-up)
> manual ruby / rails install
> textmate
> mysql 5 (point something)
> cocoa mysql (beta) for mysql gui
> safari
>
> what do you guys use? what was you learning toolset? why can''t i
do
> this
> bloody four days on rails tutorial? (it just wont do script/generate
> scaffold category on page 9)
>
> please help.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
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> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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ssmith wrote:
> Looks like your set of tools is fine.
> 
> What specific error do you get when trying to run the script/generate?
well it all sort of stems from when i''m asked to force it to use the 
version of rails used in the manual, as far as i can tell the download 
of rails 0.12.1 (the version recommended in the pdf) happens fine, and i 
get no specific error messages when i edit the enviroment.rb

So when i do that none of the model / controller generates work....

if i skip that bit the model / controller generates work fine but the 
generate scaffold (which acording to the pdf will reveal all of the gode 
generated so wew can have a play around) dosen''t work at all i type the
command at the terminal i''m just returned back to the command promt 
thing [$ruby - the account username ;) ]

if my toolset and the way i''ve got it all set up is fine, then why
can''t
i get this to work???

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Your choice of tools is not really causing the problem you''re  
seeing.  I suspect you''re correct in that it has something to do with  
the version of rails (can''t recall if you already had another version  
installed or not but it''s possible there''s some sort of
conflict /
incompatibility if you did).

You may want to reinstall rails (clean) and try the tutorial you  
mentioned with it.  If the tutorial doesn''t work with this version of  
rails, then that would be an excellent way of learning what''s  
changed, etc.  Here''s a good article that goes into the setup step-by- 
step (it even includes instructions on how to set up lightTPD):

http://www.hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ 
ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger


On Dec 4, 2005, at 9:58 AM, craigtmackenzie wrote:
> ssmith wrote:
>> Looks like your set of tools is fine.
>>
>> What specific error do you get when trying to run the script/ 
>> generate?
>
> well it all sort of stems from when i''m asked to force it to use
the
> version of rails used in the manual, as far as i can tell the download
> of rails 0.12.1 (the version recommended in the pdf) happens fine,  
> and i
> get no specific error messages when i edit the enviroment.rb
>
> So when i do that none of the model / controller generates work....
>
> if i skip that bit the model / controller generates work fine but the
> generate scaffold (which acording to the pdf will reveal all of the  
> gode
> generated so wew can have a play around) dosen''t work at all i
type
> the
> command at the terminal i''m just returned back to the command
promt
> thing [$ruby - the account username ;) ]
>
> if my toolset and the way i''ve got it all set up is fine, then why
> can''t
> i get this to work???
>
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On Dec 4, 2005, at 7:37 AM, craigtmackenzie wrote:
> locomotive (chose for 1 click set-up)
> manual ruby / rails install
These are mutually exclusive.  You''re actually running one or the  
other.  To get a Terminal window with all of the Locomotive paths  
setup, you need to launch the Terminal from within Locomotive itself.

HTH..

--Steve

so i''ve followed all the instructions in the link that ssmith provided 
and have done that, presumbaley i no should be able to run through the 
tutorial without any problems, one quick question how do i get the 
results into safari? with locomotive i could define servers/ports etc. 
to view projects on how would i using this method? is there some 
terminal command or something? or do i have to create all my rails 
projects in a special directory?

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When you create your rails project "rails my_project", you run
script/server from the my_project dir.  That will start up a server at
port 3000.

Pat


On 12/4/05, craigtmackenzie
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wrote:
> so i''ve followed all the instructions in the link that ssmith
provided
> and have done that, presumbaley i no should be able to run through the
> tutorial without any problems, one quick question how do i get the
> results into safari? with locomotive i could define servers/ports etc.
> to view projects on how would i using this method? is there some
> terminal command or something? or do i have to create all my rails
> projects in a special directory?
>
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so i would get to it from:

http://localhost:3000/my_project

is that right? and the script/server thing does that run webrick? what 
is lightTPD???

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No, you''d get to it from http://localhost:3000

Yes, script/server runs webrick unless you have lighttpd installed, I
think.  lighttpd is a web server, like apache.  www.lighttpd.net

Pat


On 12/4/05, craigtmackenzie
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wrote:
> so i would get to it from:
>
> http://localhost:3000/my_project
>
> is that right? and the script/server thing does that run webrick? what
> is lightTPD???
>
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ok brilliant i''m thinking i can get on with the four days on rails
thing
ok now, just out of curiosity; the four days on rails tutorial uses 
rails 0.12.1, and i''m using 1.14.3

in the tutorial the guy runs the following

rails ToDo
cd ~/ToDo
script/generate model category
script/generate controller category
[writes scaffold code into category_controller.rb]
script/generate scaffold category

he says that this generates his scaffold code and he can see it all and 
play around with it, using the same code on rails 1.14.3 results in the 
shell reoprting that i should set up a table in the databse or 
something??? anybody know how to achieve the same result (ie. revelaing 
all of the scaffold code so i can have a play around in it??) in 
1.14.3??? many thanks

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in the tutorial should be a schema for the database, go ahead and set 
that up and change your database.yml to match

On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:23 AM, craigtmackenzie 
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<craigtmackenzie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> ok brilliant i''m thinking i can get on with the four days on rails
> thing
> ok now, just out of curiosity; the four days on rails tutorial uses
> rails 0.12.1, and i''m using 1.14.3
>
> in the tutorial the guy runs the following
>
> rails ToDo
> cd ~/ToDo
> script/generate model category
> script/generate controller category
> [writes scaffold code into category_controller.rb]
> script/generate scaffold category
>
> he says that this generates his scaffold code and he can see it all and
> play around with it, using the same code on rails 1.14.3 results in the
> shell reoprting that i should set up a table in the databse or
> something??? anybody know how to achieve the same result (ie. revelaing
> all of the scaffold code so i can have a play around in it??) in
> 1.14.3??? many thanks
>
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oh yeah i''ve done that, but under 1.14.3

rails ToDo
cd ~/ToDo
script/generate model category
script/generate controller category
[writes scaffold code into category_controller.rb]
script/generate scaffold category

doesn''t work, it just produces that error i mentioned before... where
as
the tutorial states it works under 1.12.1 so for my personal rail apps 
that i''m gonna write in 1.14.3 how am i going to get past the invisible
scaffold to see the code underneath?

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On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:23 AM, craigtmackenzie wrote:
> ok brilliant i''m thinking i can get on with the four days on rails
> thing
> ok now, just out of curiosity; the four days on rails tutorial uses
> rails 0.12.1, and i''m using 1.14.3
>
> in the tutorial the guy runs the following
>
> rails ToDo
> cd ~/ToDo
> script/generate model category
> script/generate controller category
> [writes scaffold code into category_controller.rb]
> script/generate scaffold category
>
> he says that this generates his scaffold code and he can see it all  
> and
> play around with it, using the same code on rails 1.14.3 results in  
> the
> shell reoprting that i should set up a table in the databse or
> something??? anybody know how to achieve the same result (ie.  
> revelaing
> all of the scaffold code so i can have a play around in it??) in
> 1.14.3??? many thanks


Try:

script/generate scaffold Category Category

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