Hi, afaik I haven''t seen a mention of that so here it is: radrails 0.4 is out (and I''m starting to really like it). Announce below -T http://www.radrails.org/ ================== Get your download on and get the latest version of RadRails. Once opening up the program you''ll notice some nice new features: - Syntax highlighting: RHTML, Ruby - Code Assist/Content Assist: RHTML, Ruby - Code templates/snippets for commonly used Rails commands - Misc. bug fixes You''ll also notice that http://doc.radrails.org is up and contains the RadRails JavaDoc. It''s 3:30AM on Halloween. I''m not responsible if this post makes zero sense to you. Enjoy the release and post bug reports. And check out the Podcast<http://feeds.feedburner.com/RadRails>while you''re at it. _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Hey, Great app, I was using it for a while and was overall satisfied until I tried stopping the server and the program locked up. -PJ On 11/2/05, Thibaut Barrère <thibaut.barrere-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > afaik I haven''t seen a mention of that so here it is: radrails 0.4 is out > (and I''m starting to really like it). Announce below > > > -T > > > > http://www.radrails.org/ > > ==================> > > > Get your download on and get the latest version of RadRails. Once opening up > the program you''ll notice some nice new features: > Syntax highlighting: RHTML, Ruby > Code Assist/Content Assist: RHTML, Ruby > Code templates/snippets for commonly used Rails commands > Misc. bug fixesYou''ll also notice that http://doc.radrails.org is up and > contains the RadRails JavaDoc. > > It''s 3:30AM on Halloween. I''m not responsible if this post makes zero sense > to you. Enjoy the release and post bug reports. And check out the Podcast > while you''re at it. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
> > Hey, > Great app, I was using it for a while and was overall satisfied until > I tried stopping the server and the program locked up.Hi why not sending some feedback to the authors ? (their mail addresses on http://www.radrails.org/page/about) ps : I''m not an author myself but I really think this tool is promising Thibaut _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I am using RDT and eclipse with "run external program" additions for developing rails apps. Last time I checked radrails, it was not usable for me. How is the process going on now? how does code completion / code assist work? (most important thing to me).. I like IDEA as an IDE a lot.. I know their intellisense comletion cannot be created in ruby (strong typing etc.) but at least something like Zend Studio can be created. For example a = Array.new and editor knows this variable is an array so it gives you all methods when you write a. .... Zend does a very good job with this kind of completion. just my 2 cents. On 11/3/05, PJ Hyett <pjhyett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hey, > Great app, I was using it for a while and was overall satisfied until > I tried stopping the server and the program locked up. > > -PJ > > On 11/2/05, Thibaut Barrère <thibaut.barrere-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > afaik I haven''t seen a mention of that so here it is: radrails 0.4 is > out > > (and I''m starting to really like it). Announce below > > > > > > -T > > > > > > > > http://www.radrails.org/ > > > > ==================> > > > > > > > Get your download on and get the latest version of RadRails. Once > opening up > > the program you''ll notice some nice new features: > > Syntax highlighting: RHTML, Ruby > > Code Assist/Content Assist: RHTML, Ruby > > Code templates/snippets for commonly used Rails commands > > Misc. bug fixesYou''ll also notice that http://doc.radrails.org is up and > > contains the RadRails JavaDoc. > > > > It''s 3:30AM on Halloween. I''m not responsible if this post makes zero > sense > > to you. Enjoy the release and post bug reports. And check out the > Podcast > > while you''re at it. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
The servers issues should be solved now in 0.4 and if they''re still aren''t for you let us know. Next release is 0.4.1 and scheduled for this upcoming Monday. It''s a bugfix release but we will be beefing up the Rails code assist quite a bit among other things. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Cheers, Kyle Shank www.radrails.org On 11/3/05, PJ Hyett <pjhyett-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hey, > Great app, I was using it for a while and was overall satisfied until > I tried stopping the server and the program locked up. > > -PJ > > On 11/2/05, Thibaut Barrère <thibaut.barrere-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > afaik I haven''t seen a mention of that so here it is: radrails 0.4 is out > > (and I''m starting to really like it). Announce below > > > > > > -T > > > > > > > > http://www.radrails.org/ > > > > ==================> > > > > > > > Get your download on and get the latest version of RadRails. Once opening up > > the program you''ll notice some nice new features: > > Syntax highlighting: RHTML, Ruby > > Code Assist/Content Assist: RHTML, Ruby > > Code templates/snippets for commonly used Rails commands > > Misc. bug fixesYou''ll also notice that http://doc.radrails.org is up and > > contains the RadRails JavaDoc. > > > > It''s 3:30AM on Halloween. I''m not responsible if this post makes zero sense > > to you. Enjoy the release and post bug reports. And check out the Podcast > > while you''re at it. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Something I picked up which is a little irritating for me: I tried to change the default reverse video editor config (white background), but some text persists in being rendered in white, effectively making it invisible. Could not find one of the colour options to change that. Maybe something to consider for 0.4.1 ? H. _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
There was an issue with changing foreground/background dynamically with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails > RHTML Editor and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now. We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for 0.4.1 and fixing those background/foreground applicaiton issues. -Kyle On 11/3/05, Hendie Dijkman <ruby-Vki3jUAxBCcyzzc7d281tmfPcZCv/ETZ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Something I picked up which is a little irritating for me: I tried to change > the default reverse video editor config (white background), but some text > persists in being rendered in white, effectively making it invisible. Could > not find one of the colour options to change that. Maybe something to > consider for 0.4.1 ? > > H. > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank <kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> There was an issue with changing foreground/background dynamically > with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows > > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails > RHTML Editor > and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now. > > We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for 0.4.1 and fixing > those background/foreground applicaiton issues. >Oh, I really liked those colors with black background :(. :P
Make it an option! I''m begining to like the black background as well... On 11/3/05, Rodrigo Alvarez Fernández <papipo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank <kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > There was an issue with changing foreground/background dynamically > > with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows > > > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails > RHTML Editor > > and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now. > > > > We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for 0.4.1 and fixing > > those background/foreground applicaiton issues. > > > Oh, I really liked those colors with black background :(. > > :P > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- - Ramin http://www.getintothis.com/blog _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I was thinking we could have theme sets of editor colors (a la Textmate). -Kyle On 11/3/05, Ramin <i8ramin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Make it an option! I''m begining to like the black background as well... > > > On 11/3/05, Rodrigo Alvarez Fernández <papipo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank <kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > > There was an issue with changing foreground/background dynamically > > > with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows > > > > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails > RHTML Editor > > > and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now. > > > > > > We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for 0.4.1 and fixing > > > those background/foreground applicaiton issues. > > > > > Oh, I really liked those colors with black background :(. > > > > :P > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > -- > - Ramin > http://www.getintothis.com/blog > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Just downloaded this for windows, and did an intial look see. Pretty cool! Like the SVN integration. Will give a try. -Larry On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank <kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I was thinking we could have theme sets of editor colors (a la Textmate). > > -Kyle > > On 11/3/05, Ramin <i8ramin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Make it an option! I''m begining to like the black background as well... > > > > > > On 11/3/05, Rodrigo Alvarez Fernández <papipo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > > On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank <kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote: > > > > There was an issue with changing foreground/background dynamically > > > > with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows > > > > > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails > RHTML > Editor > > > > and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now. > > > > > > > > We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for 0.4.1 and > fixing > > > > those background/foreground applicaiton issues. > > > > > > > Oh, I really liked those colors with black background :(. > > > > > > :P > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > - Ramin > > http://www.getintothis.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Best Regards, -Larry "Work, work, work...there is no satisfactory alternative." --- E.Taft Benson _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. My eclipse
setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) would have been so much
cooler if I could have figured out how to actually write a "real"
plugin :)
Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup that I came
up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine
obsolete.
Amazing work, really.
-bph
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Just downloaded this for windows, and did an intial look see. Pretty cool!
Like the SVN integration. Will give a try.
-Larry
On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank
<kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I was thinking we could have theme sets of editor colors (a la Textmate).
-Kyle
On 11/3/05, Ramin <i8ramin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Make it an option! I''m begining to like the black background as
well...
>
>
> On 11/3/05, Rodrigo Alvarez Fernández <
papipo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:
> > On 11/3/05, Kyle Shank
<kyle.shank-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:
> > > There was an issue with changing foreground/background
dynamically
> > > with the specific editors. The color options are in Windows
>
> > > Preferences. Change the colors to your liking in Rails >
RHTML Editor
> > > and Rails > Ruby Editor and then restart for now.
> > >
> > > We''re going to be reverted back to a white scheme for
0.4.1 and fixing
> > > those background/foreground applicaiton issues.
> > >
> > Oh, I really liked those colors with black background :(.
> >
> > :P
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Kyle Shank wrote:> I was thinking we could have theme sets of editor colors (a la Textmate).+1 Justin
Hogan, Brian P. wrote:> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. My > eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) would > have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to actually > write a "real" plugin :) > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > obsolete. > > Amazing work, really.It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. regards (and thanks for your good work) Justin
I have tried using the full blown IDE''s built on Eclipse before, primarily the TruStudio system for PHP. My findings were that yes, you may have access to things like the SVN mod (included in RadRails) and other cool plugin''s, but the amount of time it takes to load, simply caused me to not use it at all. I am all for RadRails being the quickest, lightest Rails IDE. My only concern right now, is having EdgeRails hooked up in my project, and being dependant on the internals of RadRails to generate the Model, Scaffolding, and Controller code. Instead, if it could hook into the project and use the internal generation this would be so much better. The only way I have found to use RadRails with EdgeRails is to create a rails project naturally, then remove all the files except the .project file and import your EdgeRails into that project. This has worked great, and provides me with almost all of the functionality except for the version specific generation scripts. Ideally, if we were able to define what version of Rails we wanted when we create a project which hooked into each of the required gems associated version (AR, AC, AM, etc), that would be ideal. Such as for 0.14.2, it requires a different version of ActiveRecord, ActionController, and such compared to the default 0.13.1. I tried working with Komodo 3.1, haven''t tried the 3.5 version yet, but have found the inherent functionality of such a focused IDE on Rails to be much more to my liking. Now only if we can get it to deploy the multiple versions, and alternatively, use EdgeRails :) Warmest regards, Nathan. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nathaniel S. H. Brown Toll Free 1.877.4.INIMIT Inimit Innovations Phone 604.724.6624 www.inimit.com Fax 604.444.9942> -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of > Justin Forder > Sent: November 4, 2005 5:09 PM > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have > done that. > > My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > > would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > > actually write a "real" plugin :) > > > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of > the setup > > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > obsolete. > > > > Amazing work, really. > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE > platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They > want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to > achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins > that exists for Eclipse. > > regards (and thanks for your good work) > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Also to note, when I did the import of a 0.14 project overtop as previously explained, I have found that the WebBrick server is unable to start for some reason? Warmest regards, Nathan. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nathaniel S. H. Brown Toll Free 1.877.4.INIMIT Inimit Innovations Phone 604.724.6624 www.inimit.com Fax 604.444.9942> -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of > Justin Forder > Sent: November 4, 2005 5:09 PM > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have > done that. > > My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > > would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > > actually write a "real" plugin :) > > > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of > the setup > > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > obsolete. > > > > Amazing work, really. > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE > platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They > want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to > achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins > that exists for Eclipse. > > regards (and thanks for your good work) > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I''m for the small and fast. -Larry On 11/4/05, Justin Forder <justin-zSfPWr5aQuznITO/+xaoB7VCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. My > > eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) would > > have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to actually > > write a "real" plugin :) > > > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > obsolete. > > > > Amazing work, really. > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform > rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, > fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up the > universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. > > regards (and thanks for your good work) > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Best Regards, -Larry "Work, work, work...there is no satisfactory alternative." --- E.Taft Benson _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose between plugins I prefer. So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. Cheers, Alessandro _____ From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Larry Kelly Sent: sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2005 22:42 To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out I''m for the small and fast. -Larry On 11/4/05, Justin Forder <HYPERLINK "mailto:justin-zSfPWr5aQuznITO/+xaoB7VCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org"justin-zSfPWr5aQuznITO/+xaoB7VCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> wrote: Hogan, Brian P. wrote:> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. My > eclipse setup (HYPERLINK"http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html"http://www.napcs.com/howto/r ailsonwindows.html) would> have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to actually > write a "real" plugin :) > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > obsolete. > > Amazing work, really.It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. regards (and thanks for your good work) Justin _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org"Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org HYPERLINK "http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails"http://lists.rubyonrail s.org/mailman/listinfo/rails -- Best Regards, -Larry "Work, work, work...there is no satisfactory alternative." --- E.Taft Benson -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Funny that you mention this because I think that RadRails can be vastly improved if there was a simply console window to run "script/generate" whatever. It''s a general gripe but as brilliant as RadRails is, it tries to restrict you too much with limited inputs allowed for scaffolds, models and controllers. Maybe it''s the Eclipse framework. still a little input window with "script/generate" automatically appended to the front would be nice. For all I know, RadRails currently: 1. Restricts the folder location to generate rails project (also, can''t specify folder within folder) 2. Doesn''t recognize Rails project generated outside of Eclipse (and no easy import function either) 3. Can''t define multiple models, controllers, scaffolds in one go like the command line ie script/generate scaffold Product User In fact, I usually have multiple command line windows open when I initially lay out a project, more convenient, including the script/server for WEBrick Would be nice to see a little more flexibility. The more you get into the framework the more freedom you seek rather than having too much nannying of what you can or cannot do--rails has enough of it in the framework so you don''t hurt yourself or others :-). BTW, I use the plugin for Eclipse IDE. On 11/5/05, Nathaniel S. H. Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I have tried using the full blown IDE''s built on Eclipse before, primarily > the TruStudio system for PHP. My findings were that yes, you may have > access > to things like the SVN mod (included in RadRails) and other cool plugin''s, > but the amount of time it takes to load, simply caused me to not use it at > all. > > I am all for RadRails being the quickest, lightest Rails IDE. My only > concern right now, is having EdgeRails hooked up in my project, and being > dependant on the internals of RadRails to generate the Model, Scaffolding, > and Controller code. Instead, if it could hook into the project and use > the > internal generation this would be so much better. > > The only way I have found to use RadRails with EdgeRails is to create a > rails project naturally, then remove all the files except the .project > file > and import your EdgeRails into that project. This has worked great, and > provides me with almost all of the functionality except for the version > specific generation scripts. > > Ideally, if we were able to define what version of Rails we wanted when we > create a project which hooked into each of the required gems associated > version (AR, AC, AM, etc), that would be ideal. Such as for 0.14.2, it > requires a different version of ActiveRecord, ActionController, and such > compared to the default 0.13.1. > > I tried working with Komodo 3.1, haven''t tried the 3.5 version yet, but > have > found the inherent functionality of such a focused IDE on Rails to be much > more to my liking. Now only if we can get it to deploy the multiple > versions, and alternatively, use EdgeRails :) > > Warmest regards, > Nathan. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Nathaniel S. H. Brown Toll Free 1.877.4.INIMIT > Inimit Innovations Phone 604.724.6624 > www.inimit.com <http://www.inimit.com> Fax 604.444.9942 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of > > Justin Forder > > Sent: November 4, 2005 5:09 PM > > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > > > Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > > Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have > > done that. > > > My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > > > would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > > > actually write a "real" plugin :) > > > > > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of > > the setup > > > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > > obsolete. > > > > > > Amazing work, really. > > > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE > > platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They > > want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to > > achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins > > that exists for Eclipse. > > > > regards (and thanks for your good work) > > > > Justin > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
alessandro cauduro wrote:> I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose > between plugins I prefer. > > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version.Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. Justin
I had this problem too, I''d love to know if it''s working now. -- Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 9:30:43 AM __________________________________________________ If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, Ive gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time. » -----Original Message----- » From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- » bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Justin Forder » Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50 AM » To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org » Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out » » alessandro cauduro wrote: » » > I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose » > between plugins I prefer. » > » > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. » » Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I » tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. » » Justin » _______________________________________________ » Rails mailing list » Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org » http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
The update site should be working now: http://download.radrails.org/update Kyle On 11/5/05, Rob Redford <rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I had this problem too, I''d love to know if it''s working now. > > -- > Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 9:30:43 AM > __________________________________________________ > > "If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, I''ve gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time." > > > » -----Original Message----- > » From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- > » bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Justin Forder > » Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50 AM > » To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > » Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > » > » alessandro cauduro wrote: > » > » > I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose > » > between plugins I prefer. > » > > » > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. > » > » Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I > » tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. > » > » Justin > » _______________________________________________ > » Rails mailing list > » Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > » http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I''ve actually brought up a few times the need for a portal to all of the underlying generators etc. We aren''t trying to restrict anything but are taking care of the bigger items on the list first. The project has only been around 6 weeks so stay tuned for more finely grained wizards and access to all that rails has to offer. The folder location problem or as eclipse refers to as the "workspace" has been fixed for the 0.4.1 release. They don''t allow people using Eclipse RCP to have the ability to specify that so I had to hook in the code myself. A "switch workspace" item was also added to the File Menu. The ability to import a project has always been there though it''s not immediately obvious. We are working on making it easier for people to import existing apps into RadRails. It really isn''t "nannying" of what you can and cannot do, rather this project has only existed for 6 weeks and not all of the details have been addressed yet. So stay tuned to our weekly Monday releases and watch as we get closer and closer to 1.0. Cheers, Kyle On 11/4/05, SB <richstyles+ruby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Funny that you mention this because I think that RadRails can be vastly > improved if there was a simply console window to run "script/generate" > whatever. It''s a general gripe but as brilliant as RadRails is, it tries to > restrict you too much with limited inputs allowed for scaffolds, models and > controllers. Maybe it''s the Eclipse framework. > > still a little input window with "script/generate" automatically appended > to the front would be nice. > > For all I know, RadRails currently: > 1. Restricts the folder location to generate rails project (also, can''t > specify folder within folder) > 2. Doesn''t recognize Rails project generated outside of Eclipse (and no > easy import function either) > 3. Can''t define multiple models, controllers, scaffolds in one go like the > command line > ie script/generate scaffold Product User > In fact, I usually have multiple command line windows open when I initially > lay out a project, more convenient, including the script/server for WEBrick > > > Would be nice to see a little more flexibility. The more you get into the > framework the more freedom you seek rather than having too much nannying of > what you can or cannot do--rails has enough of it in the framework so you > don''t hurt yourself or others :-). > > BTW, I use the plugin for Eclipse IDE. > > > > > On 11/5/05, Nathaniel S. H. Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I have tried using the full blown IDE''s built on Eclipse before, primarily > > the TruStudio system for PHP. My findings were that yes, you may have > access > > to things like the SVN mod (included in RadRails) and other cool plugin''s, > > but the amount of time it takes to load, simply caused me to not use it at > > all. > > > > I am all for RadRails being the quickest, lightest Rails IDE. My only > > concern right now, is having EdgeRails hooked up in my project, and being > > dependant on the internals of RadRails to generate the Model, Scaffolding, > > and Controller code. Instead, if it could hook into the project and use > the > > internal generation this would be so much better. > > > > The only way I have found to use RadRails with EdgeRails is to create a > > rails project naturally, then remove all the files except the .project > file > > and import your EdgeRails into that project. This has worked great, and > > provides me with almost all of the functionality except for the version > > specific generation scripts. > > > > Ideally, if we were able to define what version of Rails we wanted when we > > create a project which hooked into each of the required gems associated > > version (AR, AC, AM, etc), that would be ideal. Such as for 0.14.2, it > > requires a different version of ActiveRecord, ActionController, and such > > compared to the default 0.13.1. > > > > I tried working with Komodo 3.1, haven''t tried the 3.5 version yet, but > have > > found the inherent functionality of such a focused IDE on Rails to be much > > more to my liking. Now only if we can get it to deploy the multiple > > versions, and alternatively, use EdgeRails :) > > > > Warmest regards, > > Nathan. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Nathaniel S. H. Brown Toll Free 1.877.4.INIMIT > > Inimit Innovations Phone > 604.724.6624 > > www.inimit.com Fax > 604.444.9942 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > [mailto: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf > Of > > > Justin Forder > > > Sent: November 4, 2005 5:09 PM > > > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > > > > > Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > > > Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have > > > done that. > > > > My eclipse setup ( > http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > > > > would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > > > > actually write a "real" plugin :) > > > > > > > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of > > > the setup > > > > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > > > obsolete. > > > > > > > > Amazing work, really. > > > > > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE > > > platform rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They > > > want the smallest, fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to > > > achieve this they are giving up the universe of other plugins > > > that exists for Eclipse. > > > > > > regards (and thanks for your good work) > > > > > > Justin > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Thanks you guys! Once 0.4.1 is ready I''m looking forward to spending more time with RR. Have to say I enjoyed the semi-coherent Hallowe''en podcast. I''d like to put a suggestion/wish list item into the hopper (since you seem to be ready to tackle just about anything and deliver it in just about no time), can I just say: Smalltalk-y browsers, inspectors and debugging? I don''t know what Eclipse does and doesn''t support, but it seems to accomodate almost anything. To be able to step into code, halt on anything, click to view any level of the current execution stack, inspect anything, run code in an inspector, browse all senders or receivers of a method, click through the class hierarchy... that''s what I''m missing in Rails. Anybody still remember those days? I know we''ll get there some day...
Cool! Thanks for the response - I didn''t realize the project was only six weeks old. You guys have made a lot of progress for such a short run. Thanks, -- Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 1:05:37 PM __________________________________________________ "If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, I''ve gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time."> -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- > bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Kyle Shank > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:23 AM > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > The update site should be working now: > http://download.radrails.org/update > > Kyle
I had no problems after updating to JDK 1.5 Alessandro -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Rob Redford Sent: sábado, 5 de novembro de 2005 13:31 To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org Subject: RE: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out I had this problem too, I''d love to know if it''s working now. -- Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 9:30:43 AM __________________________________________________ If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, Ive gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time. » -----Original Message----- » From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- » bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Justin Forder » Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50 AM » To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org » Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out » » alessandro cauduro wrote: » » > I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose » > between plugins I prefer. » > » > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. » » Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I » tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. » » Justin » _______________________________________________ » Rails mailing list » Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org » http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Thanks for the response, I''ve been impressed with the speed and quality of development from day one. Truly grateful for this. Just a wish list really. Cheers. On 11/6/05, alessandro cauduro <news-/kv94B6L94ZwFqzsTH5u/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I had no problems after updating to JDK 1.5 > > Alessandro > > -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Rob Redford > Sent: sábado, 5 de novembro de 2005 13:31 > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: RE: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > > I had this problem too, I''d love to know if it''s working now. > > -- > Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 9:30:43 AM > __________________________________________________ > > "If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, I''ve > gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time." > > > » -----Original Message----- > » From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- > » bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Justin Forder > » Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50 AM > » To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > » Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out > » > » alessandro cauduro wrote: > » > » > I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose > » > between plugins I prefer. > » > > » > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. > » > » Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I > » tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. > » > » Justin > » _______________________________________________ > » Rails mailing list > » Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > » http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Kyle Shank wrote:> The update site should be working now: > http://download.radrails.org/updateThanks, Kyle - you guys are stars! Justin> > Kyle > > On 11/5/05, Rob Redford <rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >>I had this problem too, I''d love to know if it''s working now. >> >>-- >>Rob Redford :: rob.redford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org >>This message was sent on Saturday, November 05, 2005 @ 9:30:43 AM >>__________________________________________________ >> >>"If I read a read a book that cost me $20 and I get one good idea, I''ve gotten one of the greatest bargains of all time." >> >> >>» -----Original Message----- >>» From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- >>» bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Justin Forder >>» Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50 AM >>» To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>» Subject: Re: [Rails] [ANN] RadRails 0.4 is out >>» >>» alessandro cauduro wrote: >>» >>» > I´m using Eclipse WTP 0.7 + RadRails Plugin, so I can pick and choose >>» > between plugins I prefer. >>» > >>» > So actually you can use the stripped down, or bloated Eclipse version. >>» >>» Thanks - does the RadRails Eclipse update site work properly now? I >>» tried it a while ago and had problems with broken dependencies. >>» >>» Justin >>» _______________________________________________ >>» Rails mailing list >>» Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>» http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Rails mailing list >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >
Justin Forder wrote:> Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > >> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. >> My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) >> would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to >> actually write a "real" plugin :) >> >> Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup >> that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine >> obsolete. >> >> Amazing work, really. > > > It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform > rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, > fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up the > universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse.Justin, it IS building on the Eclipse IDE platform.. cheers, Kristof
I just downloaded the latest version of RadRails and copied it over my existing copy. Its great to see rhtml syntax highlighting (hopefully you can change the default colours, no disrespect ment but it looks like vomit), but I appear to have lost ruby highlighting, its just black & white now!?! Is it just me? PS. I sent an email to the radrails team congratulating them on a great project but they all bounced back. And yes I did replace the "at" with an @ sign :) Steve Enzer wrote:>Thanks you guys! Once 0.4.1 is ready I''m looking forward to spending more >time with RR. Have to say I enjoyed the semi-coherent Hallowe''en podcast. > >I''d like to put a suggestion/wish list item into the hopper (since you >seem to be ready to tackle just about anything and deliver it in just >about no time), can I just say: Smalltalk-y browsers, inspectors and >debugging? I don''t know what Eclipse does and doesn''t support, but it >seems to accomodate almost anything. To be able to step into code, halt on >anything, click to view any level of the current execution stack, inspect >anything, run code in an inspector, browse all senders or receivers of a >method, click through the class hierarchy... that''s what I''m missing in >Rails. Anybody still remember those days? I know we''ll get there some >day... >_______________________________________________ >Rails mailing list >Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > >
I wouldn''t recommend copying radrails over an existing copy. The black and white editor may be a result of having the wrong editor selected. Right click on ruby file and click Open With > Ruby Editor. The setting should stick after doing it once. Eclipse has a default Text Editor and for whatever reason ruby files may be defaulting to that at the moment for you. Cheers, Kyle On 11/7/05, Kris Leech <krisleech-BSIDdvZawMx9qp0gCGiW7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I just downloaded the latest version of RadRails and copied it over my > existing copy. > > Its great to see rhtml syntax highlighting (hopefully you can change the > default colours, no disrespect ment but it looks like vomit), but I > appear to have lost ruby highlighting, its just black & white now!?! > > Is it just me? > > PS. I sent an email to the radrails team congratulating them on a great > project but they all bounced back. And yes I did replace the "at" with > an @ sign :) > > Steve Enzer wrote: > > >Thanks you guys! Once 0.4.1 is ready I''m looking forward to spending more > >time with RR. Have to say I enjoyed the semi-coherent Hallowe''en podcast. > > > >I''d like to put a suggestion/wish list item into the hopper (since you > >seem to be ready to tackle just about anything and deliver it in just > >about no time), can I just say: Smalltalk-y browsers, inspectors and > >debugging? I don''t know what Eclipse does and doesn''t support, but it > >seems to accomodate almost anything. To be able to step into code, halt on > >anything, click to view any level of the current execution stack, inspect > >anything, run code in an inspector, browse all senders or receivers of a > >method, click through the class hierarchy... that''s what I''m missing in > >Rails. Anybody still remember those days? I know we''ll get there some > >day... > >_______________________________________________ > >Rails mailing list > >Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Kristof Jozsa wrote:> Justin Forder wrote: > >> Hogan, Brian P. wrote: >> >>> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. >>> My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) >>> would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to >>> actually write a "real" plugin :) >>> >>> Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup >>> that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine >>> obsolete. >>> >>> Amazing work, really. >> >> It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform >> rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, >> fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up >> the universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. > > > Justin, > > it IS building on the Eclipse IDE platform.. > > cheers, > KristofKristof see http://dev.radrails.org/trac/wiki/EclipseCon2006Proposal "Using Eclipse RCP to build an IDE, not just a rich client application. Use of RCP to cut out the fat helped to minimize footprint." regards Justin
RCP is based on the Eclipse IDE, thats how all the plugins are written. Thats what I like about RadRails, I can do Ruby and Java (among others) development in the same IDE at the same time! Regards, Abdullah On 11/7/05, Justin Forder <justin-zSfPWr5aQuznITO/+xaoB7VCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Kristof Jozsa wrote: > > Justin Forder wrote: > > > >> Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > >> > >>> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. > >>> My eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > >>> would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > >>> actually write a "real" plugin :) > >>> > >>> Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > >>> that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > >>> obsolete. > >>> > >>> Amazing work, really. > >> > >> It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform > >> rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, > >> fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up > >> the universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. > > > > > > Justin, > > > > it IS building on the Eclipse IDE platform.. > > > > cheers, > > Kristof > > > Kristof > > see > > http://dev.radrails.org/trac/wiki/EclipseCon2006Proposal > > "Using Eclipse RCP to build an IDE, not just a rich client application. > Use of RCP to cut out the fat helped to minimize footprint." > > regards > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
It works fine if I dont copy over my old copy. Whats the best way to upgrade, i thinking having the workspace outside of the eclipse folder and then just pointing a new install at the workspace folder. Whats with the choice of colours for syntax highlighting, juck. :) Kyle Shank wrote:>I wouldn''t recommend copying radrails over an existing copy. > >The black and white editor may be a result of having the wrong editor >selected. Right click on ruby file and click Open With > Ruby Editor. > The setting should stick after doing it once. Eclipse has a default >Text Editor and for whatever reason ruby files may be defaulting to >that at the moment for you. > >Cheers, >Kyle > >On 11/7/05, Kris Leech <krisleech-BSIDdvZawMx9qp0gCGiW7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>I just downloaded the latest version of RadRails and copied it over my >>existing copy. >> >>Its great to see rhtml syntax highlighting (hopefully you can change the >>default colours, no disrespect ment but it looks like vomit), but I >>appear to have lost ruby highlighting, its just black & white now!?! >> >>Is it just me? >> >>PS. I sent an email to the radrails team congratulating them on a great >>project but they all bounced back. And yes I did replace the "at" with >>an @ sign :) >> >>Steve Enzer wrote: >> >> >> >>>Thanks you guys! Once 0.4.1 is ready I''m looking forward to spending more >>>time with RR. Have to say I enjoyed the semi-coherent Hallowe''en podcast. >>> >>>I''d like to put a suggestion/wish list item into the hopper (since you >>>seem to be ready to tackle just about anything and deliver it in just >>>about no time), can I just say: Smalltalk-y browsers, inspectors and >>>debugging? I don''t know what Eclipse does and doesn''t support, but it >>>seems to accomodate almost anything. To be able to step into code, halt on >>>anything, click to view any level of the current execution stack, inspect >>>anything, run code in an inspector, browse all senders or receivers of a >>>method, click through the class hierarchy... that''s what I''m missing in >>>Rails. Anybody still remember those days? I know we''ll get there some >>>day... >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Rails mailing list >>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Rails mailing list >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Rails mailing list >Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > >
The best way to upgrade is to have a workspace outside of the app directly like you said. The RadRails 0.4.1 standalone now offers the choose workspace dialog. If you''ve been using RadRails through the Eclipse update site this has been available in all versions. Cheers, Kyle On 11/8/05, Kris Leech <krisleech-BSIDdvZawMx9qp0gCGiW7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:> It works fine if I dont copy over my old copy. Whats the best way to > upgrade, i thinking having the workspace outside of the eclipse folder > and then just pointing a new install at the workspace folder. > > Whats with the choice of colours for syntax highlighting, juck. :) > > Kyle Shank wrote: > > >I wouldn''t recommend copying radrails over an existing copy. > > > >The black and white editor may be a result of having the wrong editor > >selected. Right click on ruby file and click Open With > Ruby Editor. > > The setting should stick after doing it once. Eclipse has a default > >Text Editor and for whatever reason ruby files may be defaulting to > >that at the moment for you. > > > >Cheers, > >Kyle > > > >On 11/7/05, Kris Leech <krisleech-BSIDdvZawMx9qp0gCGiW7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > >>I just downloaded the latest version of RadRails and copied it over my > >>existing copy. > >> > >>Its great to see rhtml syntax highlighting (hopefully you can change the > >>default colours, no disrespect ment but it looks like vomit), but I > >>appear to have lost ruby highlighting, its just black & white now!?! > >> > >>Is it just me? > >> > >>PS. I sent an email to the radrails team congratulating them on a great > >>project but they all bounced back. And yes I did replace the "at" with > >>an @ sign :) > >> > >>Steve Enzer wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Thanks you guys! Once 0.4.1 is ready I''m looking forward to spending more > >>>time with RR. Have to say I enjoyed the semi-coherent Hallowe''en podcast. > >>> > >>>I''d like to put a suggestion/wish list item into the hopper (since you > >>>seem to be ready to tackle just about anything and deliver it in just > >>>about no time), can I just say: Smalltalk-y browsers, inspectors and > >>>debugging? I don''t know what Eclipse does and doesn''t support, but it > >>>seems to accomodate almost anything. To be able to step into code, halt on > >>>anything, click to view any level of the current execution stack, inspect > >>>anything, run code in an inspector, browse all senders or receivers of a > >>>method, click through the class hierarchy... that''s what I''m missing in > >>>Rails. Anybody still remember those days? I know we''ll get there some > >>>day... > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Rails mailing list > >>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Rails mailing list > >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >Rails mailing list > >Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Just so everyone is on the same page... The Eclipse IDE is based on the Rich Client Platform (RCP). You can think of RCP as the base or foundation of Eclipse. The RadRails team uses RCP to deploy our standalone distribution (the 29mb download). You can also use the Eclipse update mechanism to grab our plugins via our update site (http://download.radrails.org/update). This will simply bring our stuff into your existing Eclipse IDE installation. So two ways. Hope this clears it up. Cheers, Kyle Shank www.radrails.org On 11/7/05, Abdullah Jibaly <amjibaly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> RCP is based on the Eclipse IDE, thats how all the plugins are written. > Thats what I like about RadRails, I can do Ruby and Java (among others) > development in the same IDE at the same time! > > Regards, > Abdullah > > > On 11/7/05, Justin Forder <justin-zSfPWr5aQuznITO/+xaoB7VCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Kristof Jozsa wrote: > > > Justin Forder wrote: > > > > > >> Hogan, Brian P. wrote: > > >> > > >>> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. > > >>> My eclipse setup ( > http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) > > >>> would have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to > > >>> actually write a "real" plugin :) > > >>> > > >>> Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > > >>> that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > > >>> obsolete. > > >>> > > >>> Amazing work, really. > > >> > > >> It is great, but I wish they were based on the Eclipse IDE platform > > >> rather than the Eclipse Rich Client platform. They want the smallest, > > >> fastest, Rails-specific IDE, but to achieve this they are giving up > > >> the universe of other plugins that exists for Eclipse. > > > > > > > > > Justin, > > > > > > it IS building on the Eclipse IDE platform.. > > > > > > cheers, > > > Kristof > > > > > > Kristof > > > > see > > > > > http://dev.radrails.org/trac/wiki/EclipseCon2006Proposal > > > > "Using Eclipse RCP to build an IDE, not just a rich client application. > > Use of RCP to cut out the fat helped to minimize footprint." > > > > regards > > > > Justin > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
I''m so glad you guys are doing this instead of something else. I''m now a full-time user and definately not turning back. Thanks for everything you''ve got planned coming up, and thanks for 0.4, it''s seriously the shizzle.
In article <116535930511081433o3091d856h150825b159e6b75e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, kyle- IwTl/RVlL4pg9hUCZPvPmw-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org says...> You can also use the Eclipse update mechanism to grab our plugins via > our update site (http://download.radrails.org/update). This will > simply bring our stuff into your existing Eclipse IDE installation.Hi... great stuff you''re doing there. At this point, what functionality does it add for an existing Eclipse user that''s already got the various plugins (RDT, WDT, etc)? Last I looked, you were focusing on all the plugin integration work before writing any custom perspective code, which of course makes perfect sense. -- Jay Levitt | Wellesley, MA | I feel calm. I feel ready. I can only Faster: jay at jay dot fm | conclude that''s because I don''t have a http://www.jay.fm | full grasp of the situation. - Mark Adler
Abdullah Jibaly wrote:> RCP is based on the Eclipse IDE, thats how all the plugins are written. > Thats what I like about RadRails, I can do Ruby and Java (among others) > development in the same IDE at the same time!No, the Eclipse IDE is based on the Eclipse RCP. If you use RadRails, as opposed to using the RadRails plugin on Eclipse, you don''t have the option of doing Java development in the same IDE. regards Justin
Hogan, Brian P. wrote:> Yes. I keep looking at their work and wishing I could have done that. My > eclipse setup (http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html) would > have been so much cooler if I could have figured out how to actually > write a "real" plugin :) > > Those guys have a bit to go before I can use it instead of the setup > that I came up with, but I''m pretty sure they''re going to make mine > obsolete. > > Amazing work, really. > > -bphBrian, I''ve just been getting up to date with your Eclipse setup, and I''m very impressed. That''s what my colleagues and I will be working with for the moment - will give more feedback soon. One feature you are missing though - podcasts at 4:30am :-) regards Justin