Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. -Bryan -- http://www.MyCongress.org/ -- coming soon
Bryan Helmkamp wrote:> Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? > > I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near > Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really > like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. >The company I work for isn''t solely a web development firm, but we are quite heavily using Rails. I do part-time web development in which I am using Rails for some of my current projects. I am more of a ruby programmer though then a rails specialist. I know of other people and companies in West Michigan who either use or are looking into using Rails, but I''ll let them speak up on their own. We have a grandrapids.rb ruby users group. See http://www.gr-ruby.org that meets the first saturday of each month. Rails seems to be an intriguing topic! Zach
On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Bryan Helmkamp wrote:> Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? > > I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near > Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really > like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. > > -Bryan >I''m not in Michigan these days, but I''m from Monroe and do make it up there on occasion, if anyone is in that area. I''d be interested in meeting up in SE MI on the rare chance that the cosmos coordinates my placement in the area at a convenient time. -Scott
Bryan Helmkamp wrote:> Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? > > I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near > Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really > like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. > > -Bryan >I hail from the hamlet of Okemos, a suburb of East Lansing. Okemos is an Indian name. It''s not PC to use Indian names, I know, so I hear they''re thinking of changing the name to ''Bob,'' but then they figured _that_ might offend Bob, so we''re back to square one. I hope that explains why we remain a decidedly un-PC hamlet. Please forgive the affront, if any, because we certainly are not flaunting it, or intend to flaunt it. I just wanted to try to explain the dilemma we''re in. We aren''t too strange or anything, but there are more important things in our lives to worry about. Like women. I''m not with Rails, but she''s making goo-goo eyes at me across the room. I''m not sure whether she finds me attractive or she just wants somebody to buy her a drink already. I find this incredibly distracting, really, because right now my current infatuation is with Ruby. She''s more stable and treats me right, every night. You have to respect that, especially when you find it in a girl. You just have to. But Rails and I flirt. Oh, how we flirt. She keeps making promises, and, for the most part, I''m pleasantly surprised. Each time I think I''m calling her bluff she just responds by rendering me speechless (she calls it rendering HTML, whatever the F*** that is). That''s as far as it goes, though. We''ve never gone out on a formal date. I swear. Because, like I said, there''s Ruby. But Ruby is not my first love, you see: that would be Pascal and Mac, the three of us. What can I say? I experimented when I was young. (Sheesh, like I was the first.) Anyway, that could only last so long because my tastes were still maturing, and then Cee walked into my life. She was powerful, quirky--even a little dangerous--but I found that alluring back then. She had a younger sister, though, and my attention soon turned toward her, especially when I saw her templates. She called herself PlusPlus. Unusual, I know, but she was the hottest thing in those days, I tell yuh. Fast, flexible, but just barely manageable. She had some trouble with her memory, though--kept losing things. You tell yourself that it''s not too much effort managing it for her, but it does wear on you after a while. Then there was that passing fling with Lisp. She could bend in ways that would make most girls blush. Sigh. Sorry. Zoned out for a moment there. But I''m back. Wonderful times. People complain a lot about her, sure, but they just need to give her a chance, is all. I was looking for somebody who was, shall I say, more attune to the real world, however. Somebody better adjusted, more willing to talk to others. Which is when I met Delphi. When we first met I thought she was a goddess. She was a little introspective, but that''s what I liked about her. Especially after that bad breakup with Cee and PlusPlus. Lisp spoiled me that way, I guess. Lisp was just a little too common, but after we broke up I was drawn to girls who shared some of her qualities. Every time I went to Wally''s World of Windows I took Delphi along, and she always made sure I had a good time (but only after she reached puberty--she called it ''version 2,'' which I always thought was kind of silly. I mean, like, why is it that girls just don''t seem to be of any practical use until they reach this milestone?) Looking back I''m not sure what attracted me to them all. Some could take out the garbage, but not all. Cee and PlusPlus had a particularly hard time with that chore, sometimes throwing a fit (she called them exceptions, as if this was unusual behavior for her) and would bring everything to a stop until I gave her some love. I did what I could and twiddled with her, and she responded by twiddling with what was important in my world, but it was never enough. She always wanted more attention. Just not worth it, I figured. But they could all put out. Boy, could they put out! Usually the first things out of their mouths was, ''Hello, World!'' Not sure why, but this line turned me on. I fell for this line _every_ time, I''m ashamed to say. I used to talk about this with my shrink (he called himself Dr. Compilo, but I usually just abbreviated that to ''c'', ''cc'', or ''g++'' if I was feeling especially pissey). But he and I aren''t seeing each other any more. For what it''s worth, he was very effective at shrinking my problems down to just the bare essence, but I''ve moved on. It just didn''t seem to be worth all the extra effort. I''ve been living a little more spontaneously lately. Sure, I still have to test everything my girlfriends do, but there''s no litmus test: they don''t have to be a certain type, or anything. (I let them be strong, but dynamically typed, and I''ve grown to love it.) So, getting back to Ruby: she grows on you. She has faults--that''s for sure--but every time I''ve sworn her off because she wants to keep things slow, or I spot a curious wart, every time I let my eyes wonder to something else that seems sexy, slinky, fast, and green (don''t ask), I find myself always coming back to Ruby. She sometimes hurts me when i least expect it, but the surprises are becoming fewer. I guess you have to take the good with the bad, and learn to live with ''em. Her flaws are almost endearing, but we''re not quite there yet. She keeps promising that she''s almost ready to speed up our relationship, but it seems like she''s been whispering _that_ in my ear forever. Maybe that''s part of the allure, I''m not sure. She''s kind of an outsider. She''s got red tattoos all over her body. Sexy as all get out, I admit, but she wont give me a straight answer as to why they''re all there or what they represent. And they seem to be Japanese. I don''t know what that''s about. She just isn''t all that forthcoming. A mystery. At first I thought all these little mysteries were a turn on, but then I wanted to really know her and found her obtuse replies baffling, but I''m persisting. It''s my way of showing her I''m in to her, and, to tell you the truth, there''s nobody else quite like her. She''s slowing responding, opening up. Every day she shows me something new. We''re still learning about each other. I try to buy her a drink, to get to know her better, but she always defers and instead orders one of those frilly little girlie drinks. She doesn''t open up as often as she has in the past--got to keep an air of mystery, I guess--but I can''t help noticing there''s something special about her. So I guess you could say we''re dating. Every night, as a matter of fact, we get to know each other just a little bit more. One day I may even ask her to settle down, but I''m still just toying with the idea. I''m still a guy, after all, and my eye does wonder. Django is making noise, and struts around like she owns the place. How can you _not_ look? Seriously? I haven''t taken her out yet, but she certainly looks enticing, sitting there like that, primping and all. No scaffolding on her--no, siree!--that''s the _whole_ house. But she''s still underage, and... she seems a bit immature, even though she _says_ she''s old enough to... well, you know. Her name is exotic, but she seems a bit too quirky to me. Too high-maintenance. I don''t know, maybe she''ll grow out of it. Ruby likes to think of herself as high-maintenance, but really she''s not. Every time she starts chattering on you just have to give her a little attention or threaten to call her ex--what''s his name? Matz, I think--and she immediately shuts up. I still can''t get over it. Which I guess is why we''re still together, her and me. So that''s my story. I hear you''re seeing somebody, too. And, coincidentally, you say her name''s Ruby? My Ruby is too much of a good girl to be two-timing me (she has trouble keeping more than one process going at a time, she tells me) so it _has_ to be coincidence. But, just in case, maybe you and I should sit down and talk, just to make sure. Compare notes, swap a few stories, and I''m sure we can straighten this out. It''s probably all just a... coincidence, like I said. And us meeting together on this mailing list? That must be coincidence, too... Uh, I''ve got to go check on a few things. See what the little tramp^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Ruby''s up to. This will just take a second. Promise. I''ll be right back, right after I figure some things out. But in the mean time, let me know if you want to meet and compare notes. She wouldn''t... naw, that just wouldn''t be like her. Would she? Come to think of it, she has been maturing lately, showing me things that _I_ certainly haven''t taught her. (I didn''t even know it was possible you could DO some of those things, for crying out loud! But that''s just between you, me, and the fence post.) If we get together, I hope you don''t mind if I bring some of Ruby''s things with me, to... you know, show you so you can implicate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H help me understand some things about her better. I''ve got to go. Ruby''s calling. What can I say? I''m a whore... or SHE is. But that''s OK. We''re in love. ;) -lv
I''m in Ann Arbor. I work with rails for my own projects, and am trying to get a foothold for it here at work. But it is tough. We''re an oracle/linux/perl shop, but we are in the miniority. Most of the company seems to be on iis/asp.net or some java mix. caleb On 8/16/05, Zach Dennis <zdennis-aRAREQmnvsAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Bryan Helmkamp wrote: > > Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? > > > > I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near > > Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really > > like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. > > > > The company I work for isn''t solely a web development firm, but we are > quite heavily using Rails. > > I do part-time web development in which I am using Rails for some of my > current projects. I am more of a ruby programmer though then a rails > specialist. I know of other people and companies in West Michigan who > either use or are looking into using Rails, but I''ll let them speak up > on their own. > > We have a grandrapids.rb ruby users group. See http://www.gr-ruby.org > that meets the first saturday of each month. Rails seems to be an > intriguing topic! > > Zach > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- caleb http://www.ruejulesverne.com
Bravo! (clapping sounds...) -Ezra On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:58 AM, Lou Vanek wrote:> Bryan Helmkamp wrote: > >> Are there any other Ruby on Rails developers in Michigan? >> I work profressionally with Rails in Lansing, I''m from Livonia (near >> Detroit), I do some consulting work in Grand Rapids, and I''d really >> like to meet up with some like minded developers in the state. >> -Bryan >> > I hail from the hamlet of Okemos, a suburb of East Lansing. > Okemos is an Indian name. It''s not PC to use Indian names, I > know, so I hear they''re thinking of changing the name to > ''Bob,'' but then they figured _that_ might offend Bob, so > we''re back to square one. I hope that explains why we remain > a decidedly un-PC hamlet. Please forgive the affront, if > any, because we certainly are not flaunting it, or intend to > flaunt it. I just wanted to try to explain the dilemma we''re > in. We aren''t too strange or anything, but there are more > important things in our lives to worry about. Like women. > > I''m not with Rails, but she''s making goo-goo eyes at me > across the room. I''m not sure whether she finds me > attractive or she just wants somebody to buy her a drink > already. I find this incredibly distracting, really, > because right now my current infatuation is with Ruby. She''s > more stable and treats me right, every night. You have to > respect that, especially when you find it in a girl. You > just have to. > > But Rails and I flirt. Oh, how we flirt. She keeps making > promises, and, for the most part, I''m pleasantly surprised. > Each time I think I''m calling her bluff she just responds by > rendering me speechless (she calls it rendering HTML, > whatever the F*** that is). That''s as far as it goes, > though. We''ve never gone out on a formal date. I swear. > Because, like I said, there''s Ruby. > > But Ruby is not my first love, you see: that would be Pascal > and Mac, the three of us. What can I say? I experimented > when I was young. (Sheesh, like I was the first.) Anyway, > that could only last so long because my tastes were still > maturing, and then Cee walked into my life. She was > powerful, quirky--even a little dangerous--but I found that > alluring back then. She had a younger sister, though, and my > attention soon turned toward her, especially when I saw her > templates. She called herself PlusPlus. Unusual, I know, but > she was the hottest thing in those days, I tell yuh. Fast, > flexible, but just barely manageable. She had some trouble > with her memory, though--kept losing things. You tell > yourself that it''s not too much effort managing it for her, > but it does wear on you after a while. > > Then there was that passing fling with Lisp. She could bend > in ways that would make most girls blush. Sigh. Sorry. > Zoned out for a moment there. But I''m back. Wonderful > times. People complain a lot about her, sure, but they just > need to give her a chance, is all. I was looking for > somebody who was, shall I say, more attune to the real > world, however. Somebody better adjusted, more willing to > talk to others. Which is when I met Delphi. When we first > met I thought she was a goddess. She was a little > introspective, but that''s what I liked about her. > Especially after that bad breakup with Cee and PlusPlus. > Lisp spoiled me that way, I guess. Lisp was just a little > too common, but after we broke up I was drawn to girls who > shared some of her qualities. > > Every time I went to Wally''s World of Windows I took Delphi > along, and she always made sure I had a good time (but only > after she reached puberty--she called it ''version 2,'' which > I always thought was kind of silly. I mean, like, why is it > that girls just don''t seem to be of any practical use until > they reach this milestone?) > > Looking back I''m not sure what attracted me to them all. > Some could take out the garbage, but not all. Cee and > PlusPlus had a particularly hard time with that chore, > sometimes throwing a fit (she called them exceptions, as if > this was unusual behavior for her) and would bring > everything to a stop until I gave her some love. I did what > I could and twiddled with her, and she responded by > twiddling with what was important in my world, but it was never > enough. She always wanted more attention. Just not worth it, > I figured. > > But they could all put out. Boy, could they put out! Usually > the first things out of their mouths was, ''Hello, World!'' > Not sure why, but this line turned me on. I fell for this > line _every_ time, I''m ashamed to say. I used to talk about > this with my shrink (he called himself Dr. Compilo, but I > usually just abbreviated that to ''c'', ''cc'', or ''g++'' if I > was feeling especially pissey). But he and I aren''t seeing > each other any more. For what it''s worth, he was very > effective at shrinking my problems down to just the bare > essence, but I''ve moved on. It just didn''t seem to be worth > all the extra effort. > > I''ve been living a little more spontaneously lately. Sure, I > still have to test everything my girlfriends do, but there''s > no litmus test: they don''t have to be a certain type, or > anything. (I let them be strong, but dynamically typed, and > I''ve grown to love it.) > > So, getting back to Ruby: she grows on you. She has > faults--that''s for sure--but every time I''ve sworn her off > because she wants to keep things slow, or I spot a curious > wart, every time I let my eyes wonder to something else that > seems sexy, slinky, fast, and green (don''t ask), I find > myself always coming back to Ruby. She sometimes hurts me > when i least expect it, but the surprises are becoming > fewer. I guess you have to take the good with the bad, and > learn to live with ''em. Her flaws are almost endearing, but > we''re not quite there yet. She keeps promising that she''s > almost ready to speed up our relationship, but it seems like > she''s been whispering _that_ in my ear forever. Maybe > that''s part of the allure, I''m not sure. She''s kind of an > outsider. She''s got red tattoos all over her body. Sexy as > all get out, I admit, but she wont give me a straight answer as > to why they''re all there or what they represent. And they > seem to be Japanese. I don''t know what that''s about. She > just isn''t all that forthcoming. A mystery. At first I > thought all these little mysteries were a turn on, but then > I wanted to really know her and found her obtuse replies > baffling, but I''m persisting. It''s my way of showing her I''m > in to her, and, to tell you the truth, there''s nobody else > quite like her. She''s slowing responding, opening up. Every > day she shows me something new. We''re still learning about > each other. I try to buy her a drink, to get to know her > better, but she always defers and instead orders one of > those frilly little girlie drinks. She doesn''t open up as > often as she has in the past--got to keep an air of mystery, > I guess--but I can''t help noticing there''s something special > about her. > > So I guess you could say we''re dating. Every night, as a > matter of fact, we get to know each other just a little bit > more. One day I may even ask her to settle down, but I''m > still just toying with the idea. I''m still a guy, after all, > and my eye does wonder. Django is making noise, and struts > around like she owns the place. How can you _not_ look? > Seriously? I haven''t taken her out yet, but she certainly > looks enticing, sitting there like that, primping and all. > No scaffolding on her--no, siree!--that''s the _whole_ house. > But she''s still underage, and... she seems a bit immature, > even though she _says_ she''s old enough to... well, you > know. Her name is exotic, but she seems a bit too quirky to > me. Too high-maintenance. I don''t know, maybe she''ll grow > out of it. Ruby likes to think of herself as > high-maintenance, but really she''s not. Every time she > starts chattering on you just have to give her a little > attention or threaten to call her ex--what''s his name? Matz, > I think--and she immediately shuts up. I still can''t > get over it. Which I guess is why we''re still together, her > and me. > > So that''s my story. I hear you''re seeing somebody, too. And, > coincidentally, you say her name''s Ruby? My Ruby is too > much of a good girl to be two-timing me (she has trouble > keeping more than one process going at a time, she tells me) > so it _has_ to be coincidence. But, just in case, maybe you > and I should sit down and talk, just to make sure. Compare > notes, swap a few stories, and I''m sure we can straighten > this out. It''s probably all just a... coincidence, like I > said. And us meeting together on this mailing list? That > must be coincidence, too... > > Uh, I''ve got to go check on a few things. See what the > little tramp^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Ruby''s up to. This will > just take a second. Promise. I''ll be right back, right > after I figure some things out. But in the mean time, let me > know if you want to meet and compare notes. She wouldn''t... > naw, that just wouldn''t be like her. Would she? Come to > think of it, she has been maturing lately, showing me things > that _I_ certainly haven''t taught her. (I didn''t even know > it was possible you could DO some of those things, for > crying out loud! But that''s just between you, me, and the > fence post.) > > If we get together, I hope you don''t mind if I bring some of > Ruby''s things with me, to... you know, show you so you can > implicate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H help me understand some things > about her better. I''ve got to go. Ruby''s calling. What can I say? > I''m a whore... or SHE is. But that''s OK. We''re in love. ;) > -lv > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-Ezra Zygmuntowicz WebMaster Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org 509-577-7732