old form... but still.. <%= render_partial ''website/form'', nil, ''website'' => @contact.websites[ 0 ] %> assuming that websites is a has_many association AND it is empty... what is the value of website in the partial? If I do this from the console a = Contact.new a.websites[0] it returns nil but if i was to do <%= render_partial ''website/form'', nil, ''website'' => nil %> I get an exception whereas the first form works... something is going on somewhere... so what is the magic? _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails