Ron Sweeney wrote:> http://macromates.com/is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" .. i don''t want to lose :arg, :ne, :fir, :prev but i''ll like if there''s tab for (TextMate''s clonning for ViM''s Guys) i''m crazy of ViM''s macros, column select, folding with very few of keystrokes, but i''ll like if there''s a kinda tree beside it (like TextMate or Kate). with auto refresh. specifically with rails autocompletion. and of course i can run it no matter when i''m on Linux, Window$ or Mac. -- Salam hangat, <%= Arie %> | http://blog.riyari.com | Y!: riyari3 email: ariekusumaatmaja_at_riyari_dot_com ariekusumaatmaja_at_gmail_dot_com
Christopher Bailey
2005-Jul-23 00:48 UTC
Re: TextMate for Linux? (was rails video question)
Try Kdevelop. It has the tree beside it and is a capable editor. On 7/22/05 3:53 PM, "Arie Kusuma Atmaja" <ariekusumaatmaja-f7czpFA4K2nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Ron Sweeney wrote: >> http://macromates.com/ > > is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like > ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" .. > > i don''t want to lose :arg, :ne, :fir, :prev but i''ll like if there''s tab > for (TextMate''s clonning for ViM''s Guys) > i''m crazy of ViM''s macros, column select, folding with very few of > keystrokes, but i''ll like if there''s a kinda tree beside it (like > TextMate or Kate). with auto refresh. specifically with rails > autocompletion. and of course i can run it no matter when i''m on Linux, > Window$ or Mac.
On 7/22/05, Arie Kusuma Atmaja <ariekusumaatmaja-f7czpFA4K2nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Ron Sweeney wrote: > > http://macromates.com/ > > is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like > ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" .. > > i don''t want to lose :arg, :ne, :fir, :prev but i''ll like if there''s tab > for (TextMate''s clonning for ViM''s Guys) > i''m crazy of ViM''s macros, column select, folding with very few of > keystrokes, but i''ll like if there''s a kinda tree beside it (like > TextMate or Kate). with auto refresh. specifically with rails > autocompletion. and of course i can run it no matter when i''m on Linux, > Window$ or Mac. >Textmate has Rails autocompletion? I thought they were just substitution macros.
Actually kdevelop is a bit of an overkill for rails dev. It is a full IDE for kde dev. However it uses the Kate Kpart which also comes as a standalone editor and offers all you need for rails dev except autocompletion (is good autocompletion even possible for languages such as ruby ?) jean On 7/23/05, Christopher Bailey <chris-yzaz/rx7IpEXSVZzYpeOkQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Try Kdevelop. It has the tree beside it and is a capable editor. > > > On 7/22/05 3:53 PM, "Arie Kusuma Atmaja" <ariekusumaatmaja-f7czpFA4K2nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > Ron Sweeney wrote: > >> http://macromates.com/ > > > > is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like > > ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" .. > > > > i don''t want to lose :arg, :ne, :fir, :prev but i''ll like if there''s tab > > for (TextMate''s clonning for ViM''s Guys) > > i''m crazy of ViM''s macros, column select, folding with very few of > > keystrokes, but i''ll like if there''s a kinda tree beside it (like > > TextMate or Kate). with auto refresh. specifically with rails > > autocompletion. and of course i can run it no matter when i''m on Linux, > > Window$ or Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Arie Kusuma Atmaja said:> Ron Sweeney wrote: >> http://macromates.com/ > > is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like > ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" ..I''ve never used TextMate but understand some of the features it presents. I''d suggest you check out jEdit (Windows, Linux, Mac, <insert Java capable platform here>). It''s a very full featured editor with a LOT of nice features available via plugins. http://www.jedit.org While you''re at it, take a look at the jEdit Ruby plugin, which now features auto-complete: http://www.jedit.org/ruby Hope it helps. John
I second the jEdit recommendation. It''s mature, stable, crossplatform and when loaded up with a few plugins can do *a lot*. I''ve tried TextMate and it surely looks nice, being a native OS X app, but feature-wise it''s well behind jEdit. Also, despite being a Java/Swing app, jEdit is fast. I''m using it on my 1.5 GHz 512 RAM Powerbook and it''s just as responsive as any other app I''m running. On 7/23/05, John Wells <lists-y8WhZ5XeQqVfbyii3fMa5/Z4XP/Yx64J@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Arie Kusuma Atmaja said: > > Ron Sweeney wrote: > >> http://macromates.com/ > > > > is there no "kinda" TextMate for Linux (free and much much more like > > ViM clone) ? at least a *development* "TextMate" .. > > I''ve never used TextMate but understand some of the features it presents. > I''d suggest you check out jEdit (Windows, Linux, Mac, <insert Java capable > platform here>). It''s a very full featured editor with a LOT of nice > features available via plugins. > > http://www.jedit.org > > While you''re at it, take a look at the jEdit Ruby plugin, which now > features auto-complete: > > http://www.jedit.org/ruby > > Hope it helps. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
You can implement a kind of autocompletion in Kate Kpart - settings>>configure Kate (or Editor within KDevelop)>>plugins>>KtextEditor Word Completion Plugin. It autocompletes based on other words in the document. Not real autocompletion, but surprisingly useful. Robert Jean Helou wrote:> Actually kdevelop is a bit of an overkill for rails dev. It is a full > IDE for kde dev. > > However it uses the Kate Kpart which also comes as a standalone editor > and offers all you need for rails dev except autocompletion (is good > autocompletion even possible for languages such as ruby ?) > > jean
Arie Kusuma Atmaja
2005-Jul-24 05:11 UTC
Re: TextMate for Linux? (was rails video question)
Jean Helou wrote:> Actually kdevelop is a bit of an overkill for rails dev. It is a full > IDE for kde dev. > > However it uses the Kate Kpart which also comes as a standalone editor > and offers all you need for rails dev except autocompletion (is good > autocompletion even possible for languages such as ruby ?)yup. i guess i''ll wait for _ViM 7 release_ and "hope & pray" it will be what i (mostly) intended it to be. for others who suggested me to try other editors than ViM (or ViM alike).. well, thank you all, this mailling list is full of idea, but i _only_ want ViM (or ViM alike) as i said on this first thread. btw, i''m not fanatic in ViM, coz Emacs or (Emacs alike) would be ok as well actually. enough for these 2 super-duper great editors (with very few keystrokes). i think we must close this topic, i don''t want this topic is considered to be a flame then.. nice talking to you all. warm regards from Indonesia :) *u must''ve heard/visited Bali haven''t u* -- Salam hangat, (indonesian lang, means = warm regards) <%= Arie %> | http://blog.riyari.com | Y!: riyari3 email: ariekusumaatmaja_at_riyari_dot_com ariekusumaatmaja_at_gmail_dot_com
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 10:28 +0200, Jean Helou wrote:> Actually kdevelop is a bit of an overkill for rails dev. It is a full > IDE for kde dev.I disagree... It has object/class folding, api documentation, right-click svn/cvs commit/updates. Rails is built in pure OO and having the ability to look through your classes quickly is nice, imo. Kdevelop with Rails API: http://rubyurl.com/TWvUM and an older screenshot of kdevelop with class folding on left and autocompletion: http://rubyurl.com/nT2lb -- /****************************************************** * Robby Russell, Owner.Developer.Geek * PLANET ARGON, Open Source Solutions & Web Hosting * Portland, Oregon | p: 503.351.4730 | f: 815.642.4068 * www.planetargon.com | www.robbyonrails.com *******************************************************/
In article <fa19236f050723103720ab7758-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, hasan.veldstra- Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org says...> I second the jEdit recommendation. It''s mature, stable, crossplatform > and when loaded up with a few plugins can do *a lot*The big frustration I''m having with jEdit is that the ruby indentation and highlighting, either standalone or with the Ruby plugin, simply can''t cope with the wide variety of escape chars, regexes, here docs, etc. available in Ruby. I''ve tried playing with ruby.xml, and got a few improvements, but some things are simply impossible with its regex model. And the Ruby plugin tries to hack better (but still imperfect) indenting on top of that ruby.xml, with mixed results. Try loading debug.rb in jEdit with Ruby mode, and you''ll see what happens to it - it actually ends up getting auto-reformatted incorrectly just by loading it. -- Jay Levitt | Wellesley, MA | I feel calm. I feel ready. I can only Faster: jay at jay dot fm | conclude that''s because I don''t have a http://www.jay.fm | full grasp of the situation. - Mark Adler
Have you tried Eclipse with the Ruby add-on? It has syntax highlighting, and the Ruby add-on is in active development to add auto complete. Kris. Jay Levitt wrote:>In article <fa19236f050723103720ab7758-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, hasan.veldstra- >Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org says... > > >>I second the jEdit recommendation. It''s mature, stable, crossplatform >>and when loaded up with a few plugins can do *a lot* >> >> > >The big frustration I''m having with jEdit is that the ruby indentation >and highlighting, either standalone or with the Ruby plugin, simply >can''t cope with the wide variety of escape chars, regexes, here docs, >etc. available in Ruby. I''ve tried playing with ruby.xml, and got a few >improvements, but some things are simply impossible with its regex >model. And the Ruby plugin tries to hack better (but still imperfect) >indenting on top of that ruby.xml, with mixed results. > >Try loading debug.rb in jEdit with Ruby mode, and you''ll see what >happens to it - it actually ends up getting auto-reformatted incorrectly >just by loading it. > > >-- Interkonect Services UK Ltd. Boundary House Main Street Hoveringham Nottingham NG147 JR web: www.interkonect.com tel: 0115 9663696 fax: 0115 9663696