Hello Having just checked amazon (uk and us) both report that the book: Agile Web Development with Rails (Paperback) is not yet published... Where did anyone get theirs? Thanks Eoghan
Ordered mine here: pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails Bought the ebook. On 7/21/05, eoghan <rails-JPH02XhdevJeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hello > Having just checked amazon (uk and us) both report that the book: > Agile Web Development with Rails (Paperback) is not yet published... > Where did anyone get theirs? > Thanks > Eoghan > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails PDF available now, deadtree version in a couple of weeks. On 7/21/05, eoghan <rails-JPH02XhdevJeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hello > Having just checked amazon (uk and us) both report that the book: > Agile Web Development with Rails (Paperback) is not yet published... > Where did anyone get theirs? > Thanks > Eoghan > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- thanks, -pate ------------------------- We are often unable to tell people what they need to know, because they want to know something else, and would therefore only misunderstand what we said - the Raven (George MacDonald, Lilith)
On 7/21/05, eoghan <rails-JPH02XhdevJeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hello > Having just checked amazon (uk and us) both report that the book: > Agile Web Development with Rails (Paperback) is not yet published... > Where did anyone get theirs? > Thanks > EoghanIf you order from the Pragmatic Programmers website, you can buy the ebook (pdf) or the ebook/paper book combo. pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html -Matt
Misunderstood in the last mail people sent this link... I thought people already had the printed version... Ill pick up the printed one when its out i think... Thanks all Eoghan On 21 Jul 2005, at 19:59, Belorion wrote:> If you order from the Pragmatic Programmers website, you can buy the > ebook (pdf) or the ebook/paper book combo. > > pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, eoghan wrote:> Misunderstood in the last mail people sent this link... I thought people > already had the printed version... Ill pick up the printed one when its > out i think...Actually, this was the book that taught me that ebooks could be very cool. I''ll be buying a lot more that way, especially those about job skills (I love the ability to search the pdf). Alas, there seem to be no good ones about Postgre. -- _Deirdre web / blog: deirdre.net yarn: fuzzyorange.com cat''s blog: fuzzyorange.com/vsd "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"
On Thursday 21 July 2005 21:51, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:> Alas, there seem to be no good ones about Postgre.Hm, that depends on whether you consider any of the existing books good. At least two of them are freely available online: postgresql.org/docs/books/awbook.html commandprompt.com/ppbook Michael -- Michael Schuerig Life is just as deadly mailto:michael-q5aiKMLteq4b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org As it looks schuerig.de/michael --Richard Thompson, Sibella
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Michael Schuerig wrote:> On Thursday 21 July 2005 21:51, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote: > > Alas, there seem to be no good ones about Postgre[s]. > > Hm, that depends on whether you consider any of the existing books good. > At least two of them are freely available online: > > postgresql.org/docs/books/awbook.html > commandprompt.com/ppbookActually, specifically, I meant that I was looking for a PDF, not just an ebook. I have bookmarked those too, though. The Apress postgres book does have a PDF form: apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=424 -- _Deirdre web / blog: deirdre.net yarn: fuzzyorange.com cat''s blog: fuzzyorange.com/vsd "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"
O''Reilly''s Safari can be very useful too, and it''s quite affordable: safari.oreilly.com Ben On 7/22/05, Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre-mzk6fgDMp2XR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, eoghan wrote: > > > Misunderstood in the last mail people sent this link... I thought people > > already had the printed version... Ill pick up the printed one when its > > out i think... > > Actually, this was the book that taught me that ebooks could be very cool. > I''ll be buying a lot more that way, especially those about job skills (I > love the ability to search the pdf). > > Alas, there seem to be no good ones about Postgre. > > -- > _Deirdre web / blog: deirdre.net > yarn: fuzzyorange.com cat''s blog: fuzzyorange.com/vsd > "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I noticed that the Rails book is being handed out/sold at OSCON. Any word on when I should expect to receive mine in the mail? I''m pretty sure I was one of the first 1000 to buy it. Thanks, Carl
Amazon says mine is arriving Monday... On 8/5/05, Carl Youngblood <carl.youngblood-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I noticed that the Rails book is being handed out/sold at OSCON. Any > word on when I should expect to receive mine in the mail? I''m pretty > sure I was one of the first 1000 to buy it. > > Thanks, > Carl > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On 8/5/05, Lee Gonzales <lee.gonzales-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Amazon says mine is arriving Monday...got mine today! toby
On Aug 5, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:> I noticed that the Rails book is being handed out/sold at OSCON. Any > word on when I should expect to receive mine in the mail? I''m pretty > sure I was one of the first 1000 to buy it. >Because I was at OSCON, we''re shipping direct orders at the start of next week. Regards Dave
It would have been cool if you had left someone else in charge of shipping them in your absence. It''s kind of a bummer to have been one of the first to order it and then discover that the rank and file over at Amazon are getting it before me. In fact, that was one of your original selling points a few months ago. No big deal though. Thanks for all your efforts. On 8/5/05, Dave Thomas <dave-kbbdpT5sCmpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On Aug 5, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > > I noticed that the Rails book is being handed out/sold at OSCON. Any > > word on when I should expect to receive mine in the mail? I''m pretty > > sure I was one of the first 1000 to buy it. > > > Because I was at OSCON, we''re shipping direct orders at the start of > next week. > > Regards > > Dave
On Aug 5, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:> It would have been cool if you had left someone else in charge of > shipping them in your absence. It''s kind of a bummer to have been one > of the first to order it and then discover that the rank and file over > at Amazon are getting it before me. In fact, that was one of your > original selling points a few months ago. No big deal though. Thanks > for all your efforts. >It would have been cool, but the shipping of such a large volume in a single day is going to need some systems-level hand-holding, and I couldn''t risk it. We''d originally planned to ship via a distributor, but they flaked out on us at the last minute, leaving us no option but to do it this way. Ultimately, we''ll be shipping 7 days later than the earliest possible day. This annoys me greatly, and I very much regret it. If I could have worked out a way of getting them out last week, I most definitely would have. Sorry for any inconvenience. Dave
I for one don''t mind the delay. I''ve just been reading the PDF. It''s not as fun to curl up by the fire with the PDF, but you can search it. (of course, it''s 95F outside down here in NC anyway, so who''s got a fire going?)
Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. -andy -- Andrew Stone
Got mine on Thursday :) Frederic On 8/13/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let > everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. > > -andy > -- > Andrew Stone > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Frederic Jean fredjean-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Still waiting for mine to come from Amazon UK - they expect it to be dispatched today or tomorrow! Regards, David Mytton olate.co.uk Frederic Jean wrote:> Got mine on Thursday :) > > Frederic > > On 8/13/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >>Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let >>everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. >> >>-andy >>-- >>Andrew Stone >>_______________________________________________ >>Rails mailing list >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > >
2005/8/13, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let > everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon.I got mine from Amazon Germany two days ago. Yay! -- mans.de
Le samedi 13 août 2005 à 17:36 -0400, Andrew Stone a écrit :> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let > everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon.Still waiting for mine ... Amazon France says that it will be deliver between August 17th and August 24th. It''s really frustrating to wait for a thing when you know it is as good as this one ... -- Nicolas Cavigneaux | GPG KeyID : CFE76D24 nico-DRabjd/C3MEdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org | bounga.org _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Nicolas Cavigneaux wrote:> Le samedi 13 août 2005 à 17:36 -0400, Andrew Stone a écrit : > >> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let >> everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. >> > > Still waiting for mine ... Amazon France says that it will be deliver > between August 17th and August 24th. It''s really frustrating to wait for > a thing when you know it is as good as this one ... >Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and Amazon France customers get their book before I get mine, which was ordered directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. :)
Le dimanche 14 août 2005 à 09:21 -0700, Sean Stephens a écrit :> > Still waiting for mine ... Amazon France says that it will be deliver > > between August 17th and August 24th. It''s really frustrating to wait for > > a thing when you know it is as good as this one ... > > > Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and Amazon > France customers get their book before I get mine, which was ordered > directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. :)Woah ! I agree it''s ways more frustrating ... Hope you''ll get yours soon ! -- Nicolas Cavigneaux | GPG KeyID : CFE76D24 nico-DRabjd/C3MEdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org | bounga.org _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On Aug 14, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:> Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and > Amazon France customers get their book before I get mine, which was > ordered directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. > :) >I''m sure you''ll get it ... once your mail carrier is done reading it ;) P.S. Mine came Friday. -Scott
Scott Barron wrote:> > On Aug 14, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > >> Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and >> Amazon France customers get their book before I get mine, which was >> ordered directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. :) >> > > I''m sure you''ll get it ... once your mail carrier is done reading it ;) > > P.S. > Mine came Friday. > > -Scott >Ya, that''s funny. That''s how fast Rails is spreading. Even the mail carriers are picking it up! :)
On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Sean Stephens wrote:> Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and > Amazon France customers get their book before I get mine, which was > ordered directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. > :) >Yeah - that was really frustrating for us too. The plan was to distribute it the week before, but we got let down (long story), and so had to send it out ourselves, but a week later. It''s one of those life-lesson things Sorry for the frustration... Dave
Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > >> Nah, the frustrating part is when Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, and >> Amazon France customers get their book before I get mine, which was >> ordered directly from the writers in the same country as the writers. :) >> > Yeah - that was really frustrating for us too. The plan was to > distribute it the week before, but we got let down (long story), and > so had to send it out ourselves, but a week later. > > It''s one of those life-lesson things > > Sorry for the frustration... > > > DaveNo worries Dave. I can wait a few extra days. It''s a good product (scanned the PDF), so thanks for making the PDF available in beta stage. We all appreciated that. -Sean
> No worries Dave. I can wait a few extra days. It''s a good product > (scanned the PDF), so thanks for making the PDF available in beta > stage. We all appreciated that.IMHO, offering the PDF as the book was being finalized not only whet our appetite for the final version, but I would imagine that it helped to produced a very complete and accurate first version. Too many times I''ve read first releases of books that were riddled with errors. That was very frustrating when trying to learn. Excellent work! -andy -- Andrew Stone
On 8/14/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > No worries Dave. I can wait a few extra days. It''s a good product > > (scanned the PDF), so thanks for making the PDF available in beta > > stage. We all appreciated that. > > IMHO, offering the PDF as the book was being finalized not only whet > our appetite for the final version, but I would imagine that it helped > to produced a very complete and accurate first version. Too many > times I''ve read first releases of books that were riddled with errors. > That was very frustrating when trying to learn.I found that I rather like the PDF format. I bought the Programming Ruby combo but have barely cracked the book open. I have the rails and ruby pdfs open while coding though... -- rick techno-weenie.net
except that *tiny* little error on page 183 ;) On 8/14/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > No worries Dave. I can wait a few extra days. It''s a good product > > (scanned the PDF), so thanks for making the PDF available in beta > > stage. We all appreciated that. > > IMHO, offering the PDF as the book was being finalized not only whet > our appetite for the final version, but I would imagine that it helped > to produced a very complete and accurate first version. Too many > times I''ve read first releases of books that were riddled with errors. > That was very frustrating when trying to learn. > > Excellent work! > > -andy > -- > Andrew Stone > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Zachery Hostens <zacheryph-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
That''s funny. I noticed that in the PDF version and thought that would have been corrected. I guess I should have mentioned something, but I thought someone else would have. :) On 8/14/05, Zachery Hostens <zacheryph-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> except that *tiny* little error on page 183 ;) > > On 8/14/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > No worries Dave. I can wait a few extra days. It''s a good product > > > (scanned the PDF), so thanks for making the PDF available in beta > > > stage. We all appreciated that. > > > > IMHO, offering the PDF as the book was being finalized not only whet > > our appetite for the final version, but I would imagine that it helped > > to produced a very complete and accurate first version. Too many > > times I''ve read first releases of books that were riddled with errors. > > That was very frustrating when trying to learn. > > > > Excellent work! > > > > -andy > > -- > > Andrew Stone > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > Zachery Hostens <zacheryph-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Andrew Stone
Sorry for the bad posting style on the previous post...gmail default. -andy
Mine came to the UK yesterday.... David Mytton wrote:> Still waiting for mine to come from Amazon UK - they expect it to be > dispatched today or tomorrow! > > Regards, > > David Mytton > olate.co.uk > > > Frederic Jean wrote: > >> Got mine on Thursday :) >> >> Frederic >> >> On 8/13/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let >>> everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. >>> >>> -andy >>> -- >>> Andrew Stone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >-- Interkonect Services UK Ltd. Boundary House Main Street Hoveringham Nottingham NG147 JR web: interkonect.com tel: 0115 9663696 fax: 0115 9663696
Amazon shipped and delivered. Waiting for freight forwarder to ship to Trinidad and Tobago (Caribbean). Regards, Leon. On 8/15/05, Kris Leech <krisleech-BSIDdvZawMx9qp0gCGiW7Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Mine came to the UK yesterday.... > > David Mytton wrote: > > > Still waiting for mine to come from Amazon UK - they expect it to be > > dispatched today or tomorrow! > > > > Regards, > > > > David Mytton > > olate.co.uk > > > > > > Frederic Jean wrote: > > > >> Got mine on Thursday :) > >> > >> Frederic > >> > >> On 8/13/05, Andrew Stone <stonelists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Just received my book today...woohoo. So, thought I would let > >>> everyone know that if you haven''t received it yet...it should be soon. > >>> > >>> -andy > >>> -- > >>> Andrew Stone > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Rails mailing list > >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >>> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > -- > Interkonect Services UK Ltd. > Boundary House > Main Street > Hoveringham > Nottingham > NG147 JR > > web: interkonect.com > tel: 0115 9663696 > fax: 0115 9663696 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Kris Leech wrote:> Mine came to the UK yesterday....Got mine in the UK on Saturday morning, direct from the publishers. Woohoo! :-D ~Dave -- Dave Silvester Rent-A-Monkey Website Development Web: rentamonkey.com
On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Dave Silvester wrote:> Kris Leech wrote: > >> Mine came to the UK yesterday.... >> > > Got mine in the UK on Saturday morning, direct from the publishers. >I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is mentioned on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve seen a lot of books recently where the index is screwed up like this. Does someone forget to update the index before sending it to the printer? Regards, Ed -- Transmogrify, LLC * <xmog.com>
> It''s one of those life-lesson thingsGood news! Your mail announcing "Just a quick note to tell you we shipped all the Rails book preorders on Tuesday August 9th." : Book was in my snail box on Sat 13. Great oversea performance.. Ciao'' Mathieu
On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Dave Silvester wrote: > > >> Kris Leech wrote: >> >> >>> Mine came to the UK yesterday.... >>> >>> >> >> Got mine in the UK on Saturday morning, direct from the publishers. >> >> > > I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is > mentioned on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve seen > a lot of books recently where the index is screwed up like this. > Does someone forget to update the index before sending it to the > printer?Page 132 (of the copy I received on Friday) mentions "before filter", and the code that has "before_filter" used is at the very top of 133. It seems reasonable to me for the index to point to p. 132 since that is the start of where it is covered. How about a book index that is searchable? :) http:// lucenebook.com/search?query="ruby+port"~3 Erik
The Pdf is searchable :) On 15/08/2005, at 10:31 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote: > > >> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Dave Silvester wrote: >> >> >> >>> Kris Leech wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Mine came to the UK yesterday.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Got mine in the UK on Saturday morning, direct from the publishers. >>> >>> >>> >> >> I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is >> mentioned on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve >> seen a lot of books recently where the index is screwed up like >> this. Does someone forget to update the index before sending it to >> the printer? >> > > Page 132 (of the copy I received on Friday) mentions "before > filter", and the code that has "before_filter" used is at the very > top of 133. It seems reasonable to me for the index to point to p. > 132 since that is the start of where it is covered. > > How about a book index that is searchable? :) http:// > lucenebook.com/search?query="ruby+port"~3 > > Erik > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Aug 14, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Zachery Hostens wrote:> except that *tiny* little error on page 183 ;) >You mean the directory names in the diagram? That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second printing, though... :)
On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:29 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote:> I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is mentioned > on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve seen a lot of > books recently where the index is screwed up like this. Does someone > forget to update the index before sending it to the printer? >The index is generated automatically from the content. The problem with things close to page boundaries is that it''s very, very hard for the software (TeX in this case) to get it right. We actually format the book 4 times prior to generating the index in an attempt to get the page numbers to settle down, but it doesn''t always work (as you can see). Dave
On Aug 15, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Julian Leviston wrote:> The Pdf is searchable :)Not quite with the power of full-text search like the URL I pointed to (my Lucene in Action book site). My site does stemming, as well as allowing rich expressions like phrase/proximity/boolean/fuzzy/ wildcard queries. But, that being said... PDF searching is great and I use it frequently. Erik> > > On 15/08/2005, at 10:31 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote: > > >> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Dave Silvester wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Kris Leech wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Mine came to the UK yesterday.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Got mine in the UK on Saturday morning, direct from the publishers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is >>> mentioned on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve >>> seen a lot of books recently where the index is screwed up like >>> this. Does someone forget to update the index before sending it >>> to the printer? >>> >>> >> >> Page 132 (of the copy I received on Friday) mentions "before >> filter", and the code that has "before_filter" used is at the very >> top of 133. It seems reasonable to me for the index to point to >> p. 132 since that is the start of where it is covered. >> >> How about a book index that is searchable? :) http:// >> lucenebook.com/search?query="ruby+port"~3 >> >> Erik >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:29 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote: > >> I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is mentioned >> on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve seen a lot of >> books recently where the index is screwed up like this. Does someone >> forget to update the index before sending it to the printer? >> > > The index is generated automatically from the content. The problem with > things close to page boundaries is that it''s very, very hard for the > software (TeX in this case) to get it right. We actually format the book > 4 times prior to generating the index in an attempt to get the page > numbers to settle down, but it doesn''t always work (as you can see). >Thats a good heads up in any case... mine arrived this morning... Eoghan
Erik Hatcher said:> >> I found my first bug: the index says that before_filter is >> mentioned on page 132, but it''s really an the top of 133. I''ve seen >> a lot of books recently where the index is screwed up like this. >> Does someone forget to update the index before sending it to the >> printer? > > Page 132 (of the copy I received on Friday) mentions "before filter", > and the code that has "before_filter" used is at the very top of > 133. It seems reasonable to me for the index to point to p. 132 > since that is the start of where it is covered.If you are suggesting that the index at the back of the book is a _concept_ index, then I humbly suggest that the listing should then reference pp132-133. If the index, consistent with common practice, is a _text_ index, then the entry should only reference p133. Regards, Ed -- Transmogrify, LLC * <xmog.com>
I had my book the same day as the email, well before I even got the email. Even though I shipped it cheapest shipping, it seems to help to be in Dallas near Dave. :) -- Chris Griego
On Aug 15, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Ed Watkeys wrote:> If you are suggesting that the index at the back of the book is a > _concept_ index, then I humbly suggest that the listing should then > reference pp132-133. If the index, consistent with common practice, is > a > _text_ index, then the entry should only reference p133.The real question is: did you find what you were looking for using the index? Cheers Dave
On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote:> That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the > day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second > printing, though... :)Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> -- Regards, Charles.
I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it? On 8/15/05, Charles M. Gerungan <charles-y71OEPr+RUyakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: > > > That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the > > day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second > > printing, though... :) > > Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> > > -- > Regards, Charles. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Douglas Hernandez (612) 229-9684
On 8/15/05, Doug Hernandez <doug.hernandez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. > Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it?"Agile Web Development with Rails" pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails -- Andrew Stone
Title: Agile Web Development with Rails A Pragmatic Guide Author: Dave Thomas and David Heinemeier Hansson with Leon Breedt, Mike Clark, Thomas Fuchs, and Andreas Schwarz Pages: 570 ISBN: 0-9766940-0-X Date: August 2005 On 8/15/05, Doug Hernandez <doug.hernandez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. > Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it? > > On 8/15/05, Charles M. Gerungan <charles-y71OEPr+RUyakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: > > > > > That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the > > > day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second > > > printing, though... :) > > > > Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> > > > > -- > > Regards, Charles. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > Douglas Hernandez > (612) 229-9684 > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I was waiting for someone to notice this :-) Yes! We''ll release OUR book really early and everyone will love it and we''ll charge for it.. And everyone can proof-read the book for us and we''ll basically not have to get so many people to proof-read it ourselves - and CHARGE THEM for the service of proof-reading it for us! YAY! (What I''m obviously omitting is the fact that it''s a win-win situation). Ah open-source-ish books. Except... it''s not free. Hmm <scratching head> :-) I''m not complaining :-) Quite the opposite. :-) Just amused, is all. Tho, I kinda think that the pdf cost shoulda been like $5 for people who were getting the book as well. But hey, I''m happy :-) (And I bought both). Having the physical book is still so much better... until someone comes up with a special "Book flipper" input-device and allow it to map out the physical probabilities of flipping book pages :-) Or even better - randomly opening the book to a certain page. Julian. On 16/08/2005, at 1:55 AM, Charles M. Gerungan wrote:> On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: > > >> That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the >> day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second >> printing, though... :) >> > > Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> > > -- > Regards, Charles. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Julian Leviston wrote:> I was waiting for someone to notice this :-) > > Yes! We''ll release OUR book really early and everyone will love it and > we''ll charge for it.. > > And everyone can proof-read the book for us and we''ll basically not > have to get so many people to proof-read it ourselves - and CHARGE > THEM for the service of proof-reading it for us! YAY! (What I''m > obviously omitting is the fact that it''s a win-win situation). > > Ah open-source-ish books. Except... it''s not free. Hmm <scratching > head> :-)Except... it''s really just like buying the final PDF, but getting it early. Everyone who buys a PDF can at any time upgrade it to the latest available version. So we''re not sticking people with out of date information. The reason I''ve been so reluctant in the past to create a beta program is precisely this kind of reaction. I truly felt that the situation was a genuine win-win, but at the same time I was very worried that comments like the above would be hurtful both to the book and to our reputation. Please: this isn''t an open source book. We aren''t exploiting the community to get free work out of folks. I''d like to think we''re making it easy for folks to steer the book content: many of the comments were suggestions for fairly big changes which we made because they made the book better for everyone. We could go back to "throw it over the wall" style publishing. I''d rather not, though.> > I''m not complaining :-) Quite the opposite. :-) Just amused, is all. > Tho, I kinda think that the pdf cost shoulda been like $5 for people > who were getting the book as well. But hey, I''m happy :-) (And I > bought both).The actual cost of the PDF was $8.80 to folks who buy both. Regards Dave Thomas
Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: > >> Ah open-source-ish books. Except... it''s not free. Hmm <scratching >> head> :-) > > Except... it''s really just like buying the final PDF, but getting it > early. Everyone who buys a PDF can at any time upgrade it to the latest > available version. So we''re not sticking people with out of date > information.Seriously. We were going to read the book anyway, and those who were willing to work with a beta copy got a lot of good information ahead of time. If your time is too valuable to spend reading a beta PDF, there are plenty of folks who feel differently. "Open source" is a terrible analogy for this, since it really bears no resemblance. Allow me to suggest an alternative: Ferrari offers you the chance to purchase a pre-production version of their newest car. After driving it, you offer suggestions which are incorporated into the final vehicle. When the production version is released, they come to your house and swap the prototype out for a fresh one in the color of your choice. Dave: Don''t stop what you''re doing just because people like to whine on mailing lists. --Wilson.
Personally I think the concept of a beta-pdf was brilliant, and it played out just as well in reality. It provided me (and I''m sure countless others) with the information I needed it at the time I needed it most. Any feedback gathered throughout the beta process which made the book as accurate as it can be can only be a positive thing. It''s not as if Dave and the rest of the PragProg crew didn''t still do the editing process to the best of their ability. I say kudos to all involved, and please do it again! Ben
On 16/08/2005, at 11:54 AM, Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: > > >> I was waiting for someone to notice this :-) >> >> Yes! We''ll release OUR book really early and everyone will love it >> and we''ll charge for it.. >> >> And everyone can proof-read the book for us and we''ll basically >> not have to get so many people to proof-read it ourselves - and >> CHARGE THEM for the service of proof-reading it for us! YAY! (What >> I''m obviously omitting is the fact that it''s a win-win situation). >> >> Ah open-source-ish books. Except... it''s not free. Hmm <scratching >> head> :-) >> > > Except... it''s really just like buying the final PDF, but getting > it early. Everyone who buys a PDF can at any time upgrade it to the > latest available version. So we''re not sticking people with out of > date information. > > The reason I''ve been so reluctant in the past to create a beta > program is precisely this kind of reaction. I truly felt that the > situation was a genuine win-win, but at the same time I was very > worried that comments like the above would be hurtful both to the > book and to our reputation. > > Please: this isn''t an open source book. We aren''t exploiting the > community to get free work out of folks. I''d like to think we''re > making it easy for folks to steer the book content: many of the > comments were suggestions for fairly big changes which we made > because they made the book better for everyone. > > We could go back to "throw it over the wall" style publishing. I''d > rather not, though.MAN don''t be so worried. You totally rock. You know that. That book is RIDICULOUSLY helpful, in fact I''d say that most people just couldn''t get to grips with doing any rails development easily without it. I''d not be worried if I was you. You deserve to make money from this as you''ve obviously put countless hours doing a LOT of research and work on it. I found it a fascinating way to look at things, but i was very far from being serious. I don''t think that comment has a leg to stand on, honestly. You''ve made it such that comments like that don''t have a leg to stand on, I think... releasing the book early is an EXCELLENT idea... and having them comment on it or not is largely irrelevant - people *can* or not... it''s up to them... it''s not like they have to.>> I''m not complaining :-) Quite the opposite. :-) Just amused, is >> all. Tho, I kinda think that the pdf cost shoulda been like $5 for >> people who were getting the book as well. But hey, I''m happy :-) >> (And I bought both). > The actual cost of the PDF was $8.80 to folks who buy both.I hadn''t even looked. You seriously rock!> Regards > Dave Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I think I''d also like to apologise for bringing that thought out - even as a semi-joke - that Dave might be capitalising on us by releasing the book as a beta book. I''m VERY grateful that he did release it in the way that he did. So I''m sorry Dave. It wasn''t my intention in any way to make you feel uncomfortable or give pragprog OR your book a bad name. Julian.
Just contacted Amazon UK and they say that the book has been delayed. They now expect to have it out to me on August 23 - August 24, 2005. :( Regards, David Mytton Managing Director - Olate Ltd olate.co.uk T: (646) 257 3714 (USA) T: (020) 7870 9176 (UK) F: (0870) 705 1068 (UK) E: support-ELxQ3fsViAr10XsdtD+oqA@public.gmane.org Leon Leslie wrote:> Title: Agile Web Development with Rails > A Pragmatic Guide > Author: Dave Thomas and David Heinemeier Hansson with Leon Breedt, > Mike Clark, Thomas Fuchs, and Andreas Schwarz > Pages: 570 > ISBN: 0-9766940-0-X > Date: August 2005 > > On 8/15/05, Doug Hernandez <doug.hernandez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >>I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. >>Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it? >> >>On 8/15/05, Charles M. Gerungan <charles-y71OEPr+RUyakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>>On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: >>> >>> >>>>That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the >>>>day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second >>>>printing, though... :) >>> >>>Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> >>> >>>-- >>>Regards, Charles. >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Rails mailing list >>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >> >> >>-- >>Douglas Hernandez >>(612) 229-9684 >>_______________________________________________ >>Rails mailing list >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Hi, Have you tried Computer Manuals compman.co.uk? (Direct link; compman.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=734802) (£ Sterling) 18.96 In stock and available for immediate dispatch (or so they say :) Regards, Sion PS Computer manuals is a market seller on Amazon and they charge more for their book through Amazon!> From: David Mytton <david-nkCc03+qR4SsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> > Reply-To: <david-nkCc03+qR4SsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>, <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:11:29 +0100 > To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> > Subject: Re: [Rails] Rails Book > > Just contacted Amazon UK and they say that the book has been delayed. > They now expect to have it out to me on August 23 - August 24, 2005. :( > > Regards, > > David Mytton > Managing Director - Olate Ltd > olate.co.uk > > T: (646) 257 3714 (USA) T: (020) 7870 9176 (UK) > F: (0870) 705 1068 (UK) E: support-ELxQ3fsViAr10XsdtD+oqA@public.gmane.org > > > > Leon Leslie wrote: >> Title: Agile Web Development with Rails >> A Pragmatic Guide >> Author: Dave Thomas and David Heinemeier Hansson with Leon Breedt, >> Mike Clark, Thomas Fuchs, and Andreas Schwarz >> Pages: 570 >> ISBN: 0-9766940-0-X >> Date: August 2005 >> >> On 8/15/05, Doug Hernandez <doug.hernandez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. >>> Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it? >>> >>> On 8/15/05, Charles M. Gerungan <charles-y71OEPr+RUyakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the >>>>> day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second >>>>> printing, though... :) >>>> >>>> Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, Charles. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rails mailing list >>>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Douglas Hernandez >>> (612) 229-9684 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
David Mytton wrote:> Just contacted Amazon UK and they say that the book has been delayed. > They now expect to have it out to me on August 23 - August 24, 2005. :(Thats weird... cos i got mine from the yesterday (from amazon uk)... it was shipped on friday. Pretty fast if you ask me... im not in the uk, bt im near. Ill bet theres a voucher in there for you ;) Eoghan
Excellent! Thanks for the link! Regards, David Mytton Managing Director - Olate Ltd olate.co.uk T: (646) 257 3714 (USA) T: (020) 7870 9176 (UK) F: (0870) 705 1068 (UK) E: support-ELxQ3fsViAr10XsdtD+oqA@public.gmane.org Sion Morris wrote:> Hi, > > Have you tried Computer Manuals compman.co.uk? > > (Direct link; compman.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=734802) > > (£ Sterling) 18.96 > > In stock and available for immediate dispatch (or so they say :) > > Regards, > > Sion > > PS Computer manuals is a market seller on Amazon and they charge more for > their book through Amazon! > > > >>From: David Mytton <david-nkCc03+qR4SsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> >>Reply-To: <david-nkCc03+qR4SsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>, <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> >>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:11:29 +0100 >>To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> >>Subject: Re: [Rails] Rails Book >> >>Just contacted Amazon UK and they say that the book has been delayed. >>They now expect to have it out to me on August 23 - August 24, 2005. :( >> >>Regards, >> >>David Mytton >>Managing Director - Olate Ltd >>olate.co.uk >> >>T: (646) 257 3714 (USA) T: (020) 7870 9176 (UK) >>F: (0870) 705 1068 (UK) E: support-ELxQ3fsViAr10XsdtD+oqA@public.gmane.org >> >> >> >>Leon Leslie wrote: >> >>>Title: Agile Web Development with Rails >>>A Pragmatic Guide >>>Author: Dave Thomas and David Heinemeier Hansson with Leon Breedt, >>>Mike Clark, Thomas Fuchs, and Andreas Schwarz >>>Pages: 570 >>>ISBN: 0-9766940-0-X >>>Date: August 2005 >>> >>>On 8/15/05, Doug Hernandez <doug.hernandez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I''m reading some 20 messages about -the book- and nobody says the Title. >>>>Dear, sweet Ja: What book is it? >>>> >>>>On 8/15/05, Charles M. Gerungan <charles-y71OEPr+RUyakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On 15-aug-2005, at 14:57, Dave Thomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>That was introduced by me while I was fixing a layout issue on the >>>>>>day the PDF went off to the printer... It''s fixed in the second >>>>>>printing, though... :) >>>>> >>>>>Which will be a freebie to the beta readers? <ducking /> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Regards, Charles. >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Rails mailing list >>>>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>>>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Douglas Hernandez >>>>(612) 229-9684 >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Rails mailing list >>>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Rails mailing list >>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Rails mailing list >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Yeh, they gave me a voucher for it being late. But I ordered from Computer Manuals now. Regards, David Mytton Managing Director - Olate Ltd olate.co.uk T: (646) 257 3714 (USA) T: (020) 7870 9176 (UK) F: (0870) 705 1068 (UK) E: support-ELxQ3fsViAr10XsdtD+oqA@public.gmane.org eoghan wrote:> David Mytton wrote: > >> Just contacted Amazon UK and they say that the book has been delayed. >> They now expect to have it out to me on August 23 - August 24, 2005. :( > > > Thats weird... cos i got mine from the yesterday (from amazon uk)... it > was shipped on friday. Pretty fast if you ask me... im not in the uk, bt > im near. Ill bet theres a voucher in there for you ;) > Eoghan
You can already buy used copies?! amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/097669400X/103-0563656-9767031 Later, -- Bil Kleb fun3d.larc.nasa.gov
The more intersting question. Now that I''ve purchased a hard copy, can I sell my ''used'' PDF? -Jeff Bil Kleb wrote:> You can already buy used copies?! > > > amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/097669400X/103-0563656-9767031 > > > Later,
On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote:> The more intersting question. Now that I''ve purchased a hard copy, > can I sell my ''used'' PDF? >If you can find someone with the same name :)
did anybody received the book via amazon/us? i''ve pre-ordered the thing in early june... spiceee. On 8/16/05, Dave Thomas <dave-kbbdpT5sCmpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote: > > > The more intersting question. Now that I''ve purchased a hard copy, > > can I sell my ''used'' PDF? > > > > If you can find someone with the same name :) > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I got mine via Amazon/US last week and it wasn''t a preorder. Ordered and got it several days later. If you pre-ordered and you haven''t seen it (and you live in the US) -- I''d start tracking ''er down, because pre-orders went out several weeks ago. Ben
I received mine a couple of weeks ago from Amazon/us. On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Spiceee wrote:> did anybody received the book via amazon/us? i''ve pre-ordered the > thing in early june... > > spiceee. > > On 8/16/05, Dave Thomas <dave-kbbdpT5sCmpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote: >> >> >>> The more intersting question. Now that I''ve purchased a hard copy, >>> can I sell my ''used'' PDF? >>> >>> >> >> If you can find someone with the same name :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >- Bill
I received the book from Amazon on Monday. I had just ordered it about a 1 to 2 weeks prior to that. Tim Spiceee <spiceee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: did anybody received the book via amazon/us? i''ve pre-ordered the thing in early june... spiceee. On 8/16/05, Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Jeff Casimir wrote: > > > The more intersting question. Now that I''ve purchased a hard copy, > > can I sell my ''used'' PDF? > > > > If you can find someone with the same name :) > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
In Canada... haven''t received mine yet, although I received my notification via Dave on the 9th. I can wait... I''ve got the PDF opened up and maximized on my screen. Can''t tear myself away from it. :) -- - Frank FrankManno.com
In case it wasn''t clear... ordered mine directly from PP.> In Canada... haven''t received mine yet, although I received my > notification via Dave on the 9th. > > I can wait... I''ve got the PDF opened up and maximized on my screen. > Can''t tear myself away from it. :)-- - Frank FrankManno.com <a href="spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=2496&t=1">Get Firefox!</a>
Sion Morris wrote:> Have you tried Computer Manuals compman.co.uk? > > (Direct link; compman.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=734802) > > (£ Sterling) 18.96 > > In stock and available for immediate dispatch (or so they say :)Thanks for that - I ordered on Wednesday afternoon, and it arrived this morning (Friday). Free delivery (second class post - I specifically asked for it to be delivered by post, so I''m not sure if that''s what they would have used by default). Justin
bummer... it''s the second order i cancel from amazon because of delayed items, so it''s not only the delay on the publishing. just ordered via PP''s site. spiceee. On 8/19/05, Timothy Fisher <trfishermi-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I received the book from Amazon on Monday. I had just ordered it about a 1 > to 2 weeks prior to that. > > Tim >
bookpool.com, was about $25 delivered. got sent out fedex next day, should be here monday. adam On Aug 19, 2005, at 4:43 PM, Spiceee wrote:> bummer... it''s the second order i cancel from amazon because of > delayed items, so it''s not only the delay on the publishing. > > just ordered via PP''s site. > > spiceee. > > On 8/19/05, Timothy Fisher <trfishermi-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> I received the book from Amazon on Monday. I had just ordered it >> about a 1 >> to 2 weeks prior to that. >> >> Tim >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >
Justin Forder wrote:> Sion Morris wrote: > >> Have you tried Computer Manuals compman.co.uk? >> >> (Direct link; compman.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=734802) >> >> (£ Sterling) 18.96 >> >> In stock and available for immediate dispatch (or so they say :) > > > Thanks for that - I ordered on Wednesday afternoon, and it arrived this > morning (Friday)....and today I looked in Borders in Oxford Street, London (UK) and there were four copies on the shelves. Justin