I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m so ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem to figure out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious if there are other CF developers who feel this way and if so, maybe we could start a mini-list to bounce ideas off one another. Thanks -- Marlon "But I''m near the end and I just ain''t got the time And I''m wasted and I can''t find my way home."
Im in the same boat. Cf since 1999, .net for a while, php and perl. Bills are paid with cf and after doin some light rails work, some of the concepts are completely alien. Sam On 7/19/05, Marlon Moyer <marlon.moyer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m so > ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem to figure > out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious if there are other > CF developers who feel this way and if so, maybe we could start a > mini-list to bounce ideas off one another. > > Thanks > > -- > Marlon > > "But I''m near the end and I just ain''t got the time > And I''m wasted and I can''t find my way home." > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
> I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m > so ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem > to figure out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious > if there are other CF developers who feel this way and if > so, maybe we could start a mini-list to bounce ideas off one another.I''m coming from CF experience too, but afraid that my knowledge of Rails (and CF) won''t be much use to you. However, if you''ve been working with CFMX, there is a MVC framework for CFML called, machii, which -- conceptually -- may help bridge the CF way of doing things with Rails? Sean Corfield, Director of Architecture at Macromedia, has some good info on machii: http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machii.main
Hey fellow CFers. I used CF for part time jobs in college, switched to J2EE for 3 years, and now here I am at rails. Coming from a CF background, MVC, Object Relational Mapping, and unit testing should all be completely alien to you unless, as stated in the previous post, you''ve developed using mach ii. I would highly recommend reading up on designs patterns, especially MVC, to understand the flow of rails. Then, grab a copy of the new rails book. This will do wonders to help you unlearn the CF way. Hope that helps, Jin On 7/19/05, Dean Matsueda <dmatsueda-1n2u0cAa2q8@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m > > so ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem > > to figure out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious > > if there are other CF developers who feel this way and if > > so, maybe we could start a mini-list to bounce ideas off one another. > > I''m coming from CF experience too, but afraid that my knowledge of Rails > (and CF) won''t be much use to you. However, if you''ve been working with > CFMX, there is a MVC framework for CFML called, machii, which -- > conceptually -- may help bridge the CF way of doing things with Rails? > > Sean Corfield, Director of Architecture at Macromedia, has some good > info on machii: > http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=machii.main > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Me too. I have aboout 6 years of working exp in CF, but I am not that struggling with RoR concepts though. But what I would wish is something like a "pathways" leading from different frameworks to RoR. I can help build images, drawings (since I am good at thinking in them) to make the transition or translation simple. But it would be awesome if we do it with some of the popular frameworks, so that others who use them appreciate what RoR does, not necessarily convert to RoR. I am not sure how I can go ahead and do something on wiki at the rails site. Any pointers in that direction would be helpful. Thanks, ::akbar p.s. Marlon, if nothig comes out of this and may be we can talk off-list. On 7/19/05, Marlon Moyer <marlon.moyer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m so > ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem to figure > out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious if there are other > CF developers who feel this way and if so, maybe we could start a > mini-list to bounce ideas off one another. > > Thanks > > -- > Marlon > > "But I''m near the end and I just ain''t got the time > And I''m wasted and I can''t find my way home." > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
What Ive found since Im learning ruby aswell is that taking a two prong approach has helped alot. I manage a couple decent size websites and am all macosx at home so I have started writing little admin scripts in ruby (to replace some perl) just to get a feel for the language and how it works. What Ive done is spend a week on my utils, the next week doing some rails etc and has helped alot. I recommend 2 things The pickaxe 2nd addition, and the pragmatic rails book. THEY ARE INDESPENSIBLE!! Sam On 7/19/05, Akbar Pasha <akbarpasha-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Me too. I have aboout 6 years of working exp in CF, but I am not that > struggling with RoR concepts though. But what I would wish is > something like a "pathways" leading from different frameworks to RoR. > > I can help build images, drawings (since I am good at thinking in > them) to make the transition or translation simple. But it would be > awesome if we do it with some of the popular frameworks, so that > others who use them appreciate what RoR does, not necessarily convert > to RoR. > > I am not sure how I can go ahead and do something on wiki at the rails > site. Any pointers in that direction would be helpful. > > Thanks, > > ::akbar > > p.s. Marlon, if nothig comes out of this and may be we can talk off-list. > > On 7/19/05, Marlon Moyer <marlon.moyer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > I''ve been programming web apps in ColdFusion since 1998. I''m so > > ingrained in the CF way of doing things that I can''t seem to figure > > out how to do simple things in rails. I''m curious if there are other > > CF developers who feel this way and if so, maybe we could start a > > mini-list to bounce ideas off one another. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Marlon > > > > "But I''m near the end and I just ain''t got the time > > And I''m wasted and I can''t find my way home." > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >