Rails - Jul 2005 - Ubuntu-Rails problem -- any solution out there?

Hi,

is there already some viable solution for the Ubuntu-Rails problem?
The problem ist, that -
1 there is no RubyGems deb in the ubuntu
2 when you build gem (aka. rubygems) yourself, then you get rails-13.1
(and I want the most recent stable one)
3 rails-13.1 depends on ruby-1.8.2. bang.
4 ubuntu hoary includes 1.8.2pre-blah-some-beta ... (two days older!)

I tried what user BigSmoke suggests here:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable

Then I tried to 
1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
(somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list" invokation

This is what the wiki entry (above) suggests to do, to no avail in my case.

Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?

-Florian


-- 
Florian Ebeling
florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 19:24 +0200, Florian Ebeling
wrote:
> Hi,
Hi Florian,
> 1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
> 2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
> 3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
> (somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list" invokation
Do you have libyaml-ruby and libzlib-ruby installed? 
Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, so I''m guessing this might apply:
http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/3
Debian Linux: Debian does not automatically include all the standard
Ruby libararies in the basic Ruby package. As a result, you may need to
’’apt-get’’ libyaml-ruby and libzlib-ruby before you can install
rubygems.
> Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
> management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?
Sounds like you have the right proceedure down, just need a couple more
packages ;)

HTH,
Howard

1. Make sure that you have the zlib1g-dev package and the libreadline5-dev
installed.
2. Get the latest ruby source and gem source from the respective websites
3. Install ruby by ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby
(dunno if the sitedir is neccessary, but I did it anyways, is this bad?),
then sudo make, sudo make install
4. In the gems directory sudo ruby setup.rb
5. sudo gem install rails

I couldn''t get anything working with 13.1 and the standard ubuntu ruby
package, it gave me a version mismatch 12-23-04 vs 12-25-04

Also don''t know if you have this problem, but my mysql.sock is located
in
a odd place /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock; so in database.yml, you need to
put socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
hope this helps..
> Hi,
>
> is there already some viable solution for the Ubuntu-Rails problem?
> The problem ist, that -
> 1 there is no RubyGems deb in the ubuntu
> 2 when you build gem (aka. rubygems) yourself, then you get rails-13.1
> (and I want the most recent stable one)
> 3 rails-13.1 depends on ruby-1.8.2. bang.
> 4 ubuntu hoary includes 1.8.2pre-blah-some-beta ... (two days older!)
>
> I tried what user BigSmoke suggests here:
>
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable
>
> Then I tried to
> 1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
> 2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
> 3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
> (somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list" invokation
>
> This is what the wiki entry (above) suggests to do, to no avail in my
> case.
>
> Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
> management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?
>
> -Florian
>
>
> --
> Florian Ebeling
> florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> _______________________________________________
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>

Hi Howard, 

unfortunately (in some way ;-) I have those libs in place already. 

-Florian

On 17/07/05, Lord Khaos
<lordkhaos-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 19:24 +0200, Florian Ebeling wrote:
> > Hi,
> Hi Florian,
> 
> > 1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
> > 2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
> > 3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
> > (somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list"
invokation
> Do you have libyaml-ruby and libzlib-ruby installed?
> Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, so I''m guessing this might apply:
> http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/3
> Debian Linux: Debian does not automatically include all the standard
> Ruby libararies in the basic Ruby package. As a result, you may need to
> ''''apt-get'''' libyaml-ruby and
libzlib-ruby before you can install
> rubygems.
> 
> > Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
> > management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?
> Sounds like you have the right proceedure down, just need a couple more
> packages ;)
> 
> HTH,
> Howard
> 
> 

-- 
Florian Ebeling
florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 19:24 +0200, Florian Ebeling
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there already some viable solution for the Ubuntu-Rails problem?
> The problem ist, that -
> 1 there is no RubyGems deb in the ubuntu
> 2 when you build gem (aka. rubygems) yourself, then you get rails-13.1
> (and I want the most recent stable one)
> 3 rails-13.1 depends on ruby-1.8.2. bang.
> 4 ubuntu hoary includes 1.8.2pre-blah-some-beta ... (two days older!)
[snip]

I got rails working and running on hoary by doing this:

Remove all attempts at getting it working (I did this on a fresh
install) - i.e. remove ruby, rails, rubygems etc.

1)
editing /etc/apt/sources.list and replacing all references to hoary with
breezy. (point the archives at archive.ubuntu.com - the country specific
ones don''t seem to quite follow the update cycle on breezy.

2)
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install rails
sudo apt-get install libmysql-ruby1.8

(and yes, accept all dependencies, ruby1.8 being among them).

3)
edit the /etc/apt/sources.list back to hoary.

This will give you rails in the "proper" way, but you will be lacking
rubygems. You might try just installing ruby and libmysql-ruby1.8, then
building rubygems from source and do the standard gem install rails,
too. 

Regards,
Henning Pedersen

I switched from FC3 to a generic Ubuntu install and I''m basically
having
these exact same (unresolved) problems.

I think I''ve removed all traces of the ubuntu installed ruby.  
I''ve
downloaded ruby source  1.8.2 and rubygems  0.8.10 and 11.  I''ve
installed
zlib1g-dev and libreadline5-dev.  Ruby installs fine, but running sudo ruby 
setup.rb gives me the error:

"No such file to load -- zlib (loaderror)"

Suggestions appreciated.


Gary
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To: "Florian Ebeling"
<florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>;
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rails] Ubuntu-Rails problem -- any solution out there?

> 1. Make sure that you have the zlib1g-dev package and the libreadline5-dev
> installed.
> 2. Get the latest ruby source and gem source from the respective websites
> 3. Install ruby by ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby
> (dunno if the sitedir is neccessary, but I did it anyways, is this bad?),
> then sudo make, sudo make install
> 4. In the gems directory sudo ruby setup.rb
> 5. sudo gem install rails
>
> I couldn''t get anything working with 13.1 and the standard ubuntu
ruby
> package, it gave me a version mismatch 12-23-04 vs 12-25-04
>
> Also don''t know if you have this problem, but my mysql.sock is
located in
> a odd place /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock; so in database.yml, you need to
> put socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
> hope this helps..
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there already some viable solution for the Ubuntu-Rails problem?
>> The problem ist, that -
>> 1 there is no RubyGems deb in the ubuntu
>> 2 when you build gem (aka. rubygems) yourself, then you get rails-13.1
>> (and I want the most recent stable one)
>> 3 rails-13.1 depends on ruby-1.8.2. bang.
>> 4 ubuntu hoary includes 1.8.2pre-blah-some-beta ... (two days older!)
>>
>> I tried what user BigSmoke suggests here:
>>
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable
>>
>> Then I tried to
>> 1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
>> 2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
>> 3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
>> (somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list"
invokation
>>
>> This is what the wiki entry (above) suggests to do, to no avail in my
>> case.
>>
>> Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
>> management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?
>>
>> -Florian
>>
>>
>> --
>> Florian Ebeling
>> florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rails mailing list
>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>>
>
>
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Wow this may be a record for a followup to my own post but it''s fixed.

Turns out that yes I did need the zlib1g-dev package and it was properly
installed but what I had NOT done was do a "./configure ; make clean"
on my ruby install.

So I''m happy again and I hope this helps some other Ubuntu newbie.


Gary

> I switched from FC3 to a generic Ubuntu install and I''m basically
having
> these exact same (unresolved) problems.
> 
> I think I''ve removed all traces of the ubuntu installed ruby.  
I''ve
> downloaded ruby source  1.8.2 and rubygems  0.8.10 and 11.  I''ve
installed
> zlib1g-dev and libreadline5-dev.  Ruby installs fine, but running sudo ruby
> setup.rb gives me the error:
> 
> "No such file to load -- zlib (loaderror)"
> 
> Suggestions appreciated.
> 
> 
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ryan-bOWbXCzVGx2WkzVdRvz7FA@public.gmane.org>
> To: "Florian Ebeling"
<florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>;
> <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rails] Ubuntu-Rails problem -- any solution out there?
> 
> 
> > 1. Make sure that you have the zlib1g-dev package and the
libreadline5-dev
> > installed.
> > 2. Get the latest ruby source and gem source from the respective
websites
> > 3. Install ruby by ./configure --prefix=/usr
--with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby
> > (dunno if the sitedir is neccessary, but I did it anyways, is this
bad?),
> > then sudo make, sudo make install
> > 4. In the gems directory sudo ruby setup.rb
> > 5. sudo gem install rails
> >
> > I couldn''t get anything working with 13.1 and the standard
ubuntu ruby
> > package, it gave me a version mismatch 12-23-04 vs 12-25-04
> >
> > Also don''t know if you have this problem, but my mysql.sock
is located in
> > a odd place /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock; so in database.yml, you need
to
> > put socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
> > hope this helps..
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> is there already some viable solution for the Ubuntu-Rails
problem?
> >> The problem ist, that -
> >> 1 there is no RubyGems deb in the ubuntu
> >> 2 when you build gem (aka. rubygems) yourself, then you get
rails-13.1
> >> (and I want the most recent stable one)
> >> 3 rails-13.1 depends on ruby-1.8.2. bang.
> >> 4 ubuntu hoary includes 1.8.2pre-blah-some-beta ... (two days
older!)
> >>
> >> I tried what user BigSmoke suggests here:
> >>
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable
> >>
> >> Then I tried to
> >> 1 build my own ruby-1.8.2 from release source
> >> 2 this gives the right ruby version, but breaks gem
> >> 3 when I build and install rubygems-0.8.11 it is still broken
> >> (somewhat different, LoadError on zlib) on "gem list"
invokation
> >>
> >> This is what the wiki entry (above) suggests to do, to no avail in
my
> >> case.
> >>
> >> Is there any solution proper, where I still have real package
> >> management and stuff? Or, at least some hack to get going?
> >>
> >> -Florian
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Florian Ebeling
> >> florian.ebeling-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Rails mailing list
> >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rails mailing list
> > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> > 
> 
> 
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On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 21:36 -0400, Gary Huntress wrote:
> I switched from FC3 to a generic Ubuntu install and I''m basically
having
> these exact same (unresolved) problems.
> 
> I think I''ve removed all traces of the ubuntu installed ruby.  
I''ve
> downloaded ruby source  1.8.2 and rubygems  0.8.10 and 11.  I''ve
installed
> zlib1g-dev and libreadline5-dev.  Ruby installs fine, but running sudo ruby
> setup.rb gives me the error:
> 
> "No such file to load -- zlib (loaderror)"
> 
> Suggestions appreciated.
I''ve posted this before, but not everyone seems to be reading the
entire
list :)


[snip]

I got rails working and running on hoary by doing this:

Remove all attempts at getting it working (I did this on a fresh
install) - i.e. remove ruby, rails, rubygems etc.

1)
editing /etc/apt/sources.list and replacing all references to hoary with
breezy. (point the archives at archive.ubuntu.com - the country specific
ones don''t seem to quite follow the update cycle on breezy.

2)
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install rails
sudo apt-get install libmysql-ruby1.8

(and yes, accept all dependencies, ruby1.8 being among them).

3)
edit the /etc/apt/sources.list back to hoary.

This will give you rails in the "proper" way, but you will be lacking
rubygems. You might try just installing ruby and libmysql-ruby1.8, then
building rubygems from source and do the standard gem install rails,
too. 

Regards,
Henning Pedersen

On 7/18/05, Henning Kilset Pedersen <henning-m0Gqv1oIyVE@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> 1)
> editing /etc/apt/sources.list and replacing all references to hoary with
> breezy. (point the archives at archive.ubuntu.com - the country specific
> ones don''t seem to quite follow the update cycle on breezy.
> 
> 2)
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install rails
> sudo apt-get install libmysql-ruby1.8
I just tried this, and I''m having some problems. Now, I use postgresql
instead of mysql... upgrading to rails from breezy also upgraded my
libc6, which screwed up my locales, which had to be uninstalled (not
sure exactly why/how that happened), and now postgresql won''t even
install because I don''t have locales (well, it installs but the post
installation script fails due to some locales problem, so postgresql
won''t run).

So then I tried to downgrade libc6, but that wants to uninstall every
single package on my system. Great.

I''m kinda thinking that I want to just wait until Ubuntu Breezy is
released in October and just start fresh on that, but I have this
nagging feeling that rails will have moved on to a new version of
ruby, and it''ll be the exact same problem all over again (eg, breezy
will have ruby 1.8.3, rails will require 1.8.4 and will refuse to work
with 1.8.3).

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