Rails - Jul 2005 - real rails programmer don't use ruby script\generate?

Okay, so real programmer DO use script/generate and a newbie should learn
this.

Which leads to the next question - When Rails itself is upgraded (as it has
recently been), do the scripts in the script directory also need to be
upgraded for each application, or are they always going to do the job just
fine?

I ran "gem install rails" to upgrade my Rails installation, but
I''m pretty
sure this did nothing to upgrade the scripts in my application directory.
I''m concerned that I have old version scripts in my application scripts
directory.  I ran rails to create a new application over my old directory
and it busted the app (naturally I backed up seconds before) - so this
doesn''t seem to be a practical way of upgrading the scripts.

Thanks in advance

Andrew

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lucas Carlson" <rails-1eRuzFDw/cg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Andrew Stuart"
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Rails] real rails programmer don''t use ruby
script\generate?

> do experienced rails programmers use the generate scripts? for
> example:
>
> ruby script\generate model
All the time. Who wants to write boilerplate code all day?

> do experienced rails programmers always code by hand?
Always and never are usually bad words.
> as a newbie trying to learn more am I just wasting my time by
> coming to
> grips with what script/generate does?
No way, not at all.

-Lucas
http://tech.rufy.com/

On Jul 7, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
> I ran "gem install rails" to upgrade my Rails installation, but
I''m
> pretty
> sure this did nothing to upgrade the scripts in my application  
> directory.
> I''m concerned that I have old version scripts in my application  
> scripts
> directory.  I ran rails to create a new application over my old  
> directory
> and it busted the app (naturally I backed up seconds before) - so this
> doesn''t seem to be a practical way of upgrading the scripts.
These scripts are little wrappers that call out to the core libraries
so they don''t need upgrading.  When Rails is upgraded, they talk to the
new Rails!

It used to be the other way around-- you had to upgrade these scripts
along with Rails-- but what a PITA, huh?  No more of that.

jeremy

The picture becomes clearer!

Thanks all.


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From: "Jeremy Kemper"
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To: "Andrew Stuart"
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Rails] real rails programmer don''t use ruby
script\generate?


On Jul 7, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
> I ran "gem install rails" to upgrade my Rails installation, but
I''m
> pretty
> sure this did nothing to upgrade the scripts in my application
> directory.
> I''m concerned that I have old version scripts in my application
> scripts
> directory.  I ran rails to create a new application over my old
> directory
> and it busted the app (naturally I backed up seconds before) - so this
> doesn''t seem to be a practical way of upgrading the scripts.
These scripts are little wrappers that call out to the core libraries
so they don''t need upgrading.  When Rails is upgraded, they talk to the
new Rails!

It used to be the other way around-- you had to upgrade these scripts
along with Rails-- but what a PITA, huh?  No more of that.

jeremy