Rails - Jun 2005 - RailFrog: A proposal for a Rails CMS (and request for involvement)

Guys,

I''ve put a little bit of my time and money where my mouth is and 
launched the "RailFrog" site and proposal (www.railfrog.com) with the 
aim of getting the ball rolling on something potentially great:

"RailFrog is a user-friendly, open-source web site deployment and 
content management system built with Rails; producing well structured 
and standards-compliant pages with Web 2.0 goodness."

I''d love to have your feedback and help. I really desire no ownership
in
this, other than to take the initiative to get it rolling (and hopefully 
be involved in the development).

I''m not a programmer (although I have pretended to be one in my own
mind
at times) and I don''t have any practical experience in an open-source 
development project (heck, I can''t even get Subversion working, or even
my mind quite wrapped around it, yet ;). So, obviously there''s going to
have to be some good (and patient) programmers involved.
Any help would be appreciated.

Anybody interested in taking this ball and running?
www.railfrog.com

Thanks for your time.

Robert Pierce
busyguyinla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

Sounds great. You might want to talk to Justin French [1.] who was
thinking along these lines with an app called TextThing [2.]

Both links are down as I write this but I guess will be back soon.

[1.] http://www.justinfrench.com.au
[2.] http://textthing.com

Richard Sandilands

> Anybody interested in taking this ball and running?
> www.railfrog.com
I would like to help out on this.  Coming from a PHP camp, I think I  
have tried about 80% of the PHP CMS out there and would like to get  
started in Rail and Ruby on some project.  I dont have any experence  
with Ruby or Rails but have a strong desire to learn.  So count me in  
on this, I will contribute as much as I can.

(Subversion is tricky the first few times :) , don''t worry about it. )

Eric Davis
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I have cmsish thing up and running. I am putting some finishing touches on
it. It still needs lots of work and I am looking for some people to help
out. The homepage tells you a bit about how it works. I am trying to get the
signups working right now(when I find the time). I have a couple of sites
running on it now that I manually created. Anyway, have a look
www.similarthings.com and here''s the mailing list:
http://lists.similarthings.com/mailman/listinfo/similarthings-discuss

Scott Burton

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Subject: [Rails] RailFrog: A proposal for a Rails CMS (and request
forinvolvement)

Guys,

I''ve put a little bit of my time and money where my mouth is and
launched
the "RailFrog" site and proposal (www.railfrog.com) with the aim of
getting
the ball rolling on something potentially great:

"RailFrog is a user-friendly, open-source web site deployment and content
management system built with Rails; producing well structured and
standards-compliant pages with Web 2.0 goodness."

I''d love to have your feedback and help. I really desire no ownership
in
this, other than to take the initiative to get it rolling (and hopefully be
involved in the development).

I''m not a programmer (although I have pretended to be one in my own
mind at
times) and I don''t have any practical experience in an open-source
development project (heck, I can''t even get Subversion working, or even
my
mind quite wrapped around it, yet ;). So, obviously there''s going to
have to
be some good (and patient) programmers involved.
Any help would be appreciated.

Anybody interested in taking this ball and running?
www.railfrog.com

Thanks for your time.

Robert Pierce
busyguyinla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org




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Hmm...

While I''ve loved some of the blogging tech out there, I''m
definitely in the
camp of folks who are looking for more of a traditional CMS page-based
solution that has some of the flexibility of blogging tech (RSS, plug-ins,
etc.).

And, god, there''s then having a CMS that would work for actual CLIENTS.
While I, as a developer, can hack and code any number of things together on
the back-end, I''m still amazed at how unable a lot of clients are in
managing a site on an ongoing basis (and maintaining the integrity of the
design and layout as a result).


SUGGESTION:

There are a number of different Rails CMS efforts happening now and would be
really wonderful if we could get these folks working together on a
consolidated effort to start. Am sure offshoots could come from the baseline
code, but can''t imagine that the interests/needs that folks are
programming
for are altogether that different.

Do love the project outline/intention/principles that Robert has created for
RailFrog -- that might serve to be a wonderful starting point.


Would love to hear some thoughts.

First off: congratulations on pulling together this initiative.  I''m 
sure a lot of people feel the way I have about RonR (dipping toes in, 
but not wanting to get *too* wet just yet), but jumping in with both 
feet on an idea like this is just what is needed!

I''ve had a fair amount of experience working with both large-scale 
enterprise CMS''s and smaller-scale open-source solutions, but have 
never quite found the tool which fits comfortably into my belt - the 
problem with most CMS systems is that they either do too little, or try 
to do too much.

For a couple of years I''ve been responsible for developing in-house CMS
solutions (both generic and bespoke), and with RonR rearing forward, 
I''d be very keen to put that experience into an open source project.  I
come from both a technical and creative background, with a healthy 
side-order of usability/standards and that day-to-day client liaison 
nonsense, so can contribute in lots of different areas.

As a suggestion: planning would seem to be the key to making something 
like this a success.  Building a forum of ideas from real-world 
experience of what is desired form developers and clients alike would 
prove a good bedrock for moving forward.  I''m sure the skills are out 
there, and as people get to grips with RonR, and it develops as a 
technology, those skills can grow and be amalgamated into a fine 
project!

Despite some niggles, and rough corners, I''m loving Rails - perhaps 
something like this will encourage me to love it more.

-Phil

On 14 Jun 2005, at 1:13 am, Robert Pierce (BusyGuyinLA) wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I''ve put a little bit of my time and money where my mouth is and 
> launched the "RailFrog" site and proposal (www.railfrog.com) with
the
> aim of getting the ball rolling on something potentially great:
>
> "RailFrog is a user-friendly, open-source web site deployment and 
> content management system built with Rails; producing well structured 
> and standards-compliant pages with Web 2.0 goodness."
>
> I''d love to have your feedback and help. I really desire no
ownership
> in this, other than to take the initiative to get it rolling (and 
> hopefully be involved in the development).
>
> I''m not a programmer (although I have pretended to be one in my
own
> mind at times) and I don''t have any practical experience in an 
> open-source development project (heck, I can''t even get Subversion
> working, or even my mind quite wrapped around it, yet ;). So, 
> obviously there''s going to have to be some good (and patient) 
> programmers involved.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Anybody interested in taking this ball and running?
> www.railfrog.com
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Robert Pierce
> busyguyinla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
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>
>

I would love to get involved in a Rails based CMS. Recently I have been
taking stock of what is out there having a client implementation of a
commercial CMS where I work. Without going into details, I''ll just say
I''m
not impressed.

What I''ve really been toying with, and haven''t determined if
it''s feasible
yet, is a CMS built on Subversion. Not sure how practical it is though.

The other problem is that I''m just now picking up Ruby and
haven''t done
anything outside of the "ToDo" tutorials. 

Kyle Heon
kheon-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org

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requestforinvolvement)


Hmm...

While I''ve loved some of the blogging tech out there, I''m
definitely in the
camp of folks who are looking for more of a traditional CMS page-based
solution that has some of the flexibility of blogging tech (RSS, plug-ins,
etc.).

And, god, there''s then having a CMS that would work for actual CLIENTS.
While I, as a developer, can hack and code any number of things together on
the back-end, I''m still amazed at how unable a lot of clients are in
managing a site on an ongoing basis (and maintaining the integrity of the
design and layout as a result).


SUGGESTION:

There are a number of different Rails CMS efforts happening now and would be
really wonderful if we could get these folks working together on a
consolidated effort to start. Am sure offshoots could come from the baseline
code, but can''t imagine that the interests/needs that folks are
programming
for are altogether that different.

Do love the project outline/intention/principles that Robert has created for
RailFrog -- that might serve to be a wonderful starting point.


Would love to hear some thoughts.


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"I keep all my recipes on my similarthings site, it is so easy to organize 
them." - My Girlfriend

Lol .. that''s cute ... good luck on the site. sounds interesting.
announce
it on the list when its done. I''d like to play with it.

On 6/14/05, Scott Burton
<sburton-w+tqpK57T0M7uZOk4t9J8dBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> 
> I have cmsish thing up and running. I am putting some finishing touches on
> it. It still needs lots of work and I am looking for some people to help
> out. The homepage tells you a bit about how it works. I am trying to get 
> the
> signups working right now(when I find the time). I have a couple of sites
> running on it now that I manually created. Anyway, have a look
> www.similarthings.com <http://www.similarthings.com> and
here''s the
> mailing list:
> http://lists.similarthings.com/mailman/listinfo/similarthings-discuss
> 
> Scott Burton
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> [mailto:rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Pierce
> (BusyGuyinLA)
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:14 PM
> To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> Subject: [Rails] RailFrog: A proposal for a Rails CMS (and request
> forinvolvement)
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I''ve put a little bit of my time and money where my mouth is and
launched
> the "RailFrog" site and proposal
(www.railfrog.com<http://www.railfrog.com>)
> with the aim of getting
> the ball rolling on something potentially great:
> 
> "RailFrog is a user-friendly, open-source web site deployment and
content
> management system built with Rails; producing well structured and
> standards-compliant pages with Web 2.0 goodness."
> 
> I''d love to have your feedback and help. I really desire no
ownership in
> this, other than to take the initiative to get it rolling (and hopefully 
> be
> involved in the development).
> 
> I''m not a programmer (although I have pretended to be one in my
own mind
> at
> times) and I don''t have any practical experience in an open-source
> development project (heck, I can''t even get Subversion working, or
even my
> mind quite wrapped around it, yet ;). So, obviously there''s going
to have
> to
> be some good (and patient) programmers involved.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Anybody interested in taking this ball and running?
> www.railfrog.com <http://www.railfrog.com>
> 
> Thanks for your time.
> 
> Robert Pierce
> busyguyinla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
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