Hi all, I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but I was hoping for something more wiki like.. Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet is to modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. Thanks in advance for any help!
Hi Rick, Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for persistance.. so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point where all pages can be stored in memory). I''m planning on building a site that contains a tree of wikis.. where users can request to add a new wikispace at a point on a tree of topics.. So: It doesn''t really need to be rails based but it really should be database driven to scale well.. To fit the bill I''d need to add to Hieraki: WikiWords (intra and inter book linking), image/file uploads, easy rollback/revision control, tree based "library" (rather than just tree based inside each book). On Friday 01 April 2005 14:51, Rick Olson wrote:> On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is > > Hieraki, but I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet > > is to modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a > rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. > There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure.
There''s a php-based implementation of a limited subset of SQL with a flat-file backend at: http://chibiguy.dotgeek.org/ If that were ported to Ruby in the form of an ActiveRecord connector I bet that would work.. On Friday 01 April 2005 15:16, Will Schenk wrote:> On an related note, I''ve been trying to think of a good way to swap > out the backend for ActiveRecord to use the filesystem instead of a > DB. If anyone has an interest in that or any good ideas, let me know. > > On Apr 1, 2005 5:13 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > > > Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for > > persistance.. so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point > > where all pages can be stored in memory). > > > > I''m planning on building a site that contains a tree of wikis.. where > > users can request to add a new wikispace at a point on a tree of topics.. > > > > So: It doesn''t really need to be rails based but it really should be > > database driven to scale well.. > > > > To fit the bill I''d need to add to Hieraki: WikiWords (intra and inter > > book linking), image/file uploads, easy rollback/revision control, tree > > based "library" (rather than just tree based inside each book). > > > > On Friday 01 April 2005 14:51, Rick Olson wrote: > > > On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is > > > > Hieraki, but I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > > > > > > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best > > > > bet is to modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > > > > > Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a > > > rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. > > > There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
There''s a php-based implementation of a limited subset of SQL with a flat-file backend at: http://chibiguy.dotgeek.org/ If that were ported to Ruby in the form of an ActiveRecord connector I bet that would work.. On Friday 01 April 2005 15:16, Will Schenk wrote:> On an related note, I''ve been trying to think of a good way to swap > out the backend for ActiveRecord to use the filesystem instead of a > DB. If anyone has an interest in that or any good ideas, let me know. > > On Apr 1, 2005 5:13 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > > > Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for > > persistance.. so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point > > where all pages can be stored in memory). > > > > I''m planning on building a site that contains a tree of wikis.. where > > users can request to add a new wikispace at a point on a tree of topics.. > > > > So: It doesn''t really need to be rails based but it really should be > > database driven to scale well.. > > > > To fit the bill I''d need to add to Hieraki: WikiWords (intra and inter > > book linking), image/file uploads, easy rollback/revision control, tree > > based "library" (rather than just tree based inside each book). > > > > On Friday 01 April 2005 14:51, Rick Olson wrote: > > > On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is > > > > Hieraki, but I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > > > > > > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best > > > > bet is to modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > > > > > Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a > > > rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. > > > There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all, > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but > I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet is to > modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features..Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure. -- rick http://techno-weenie.net
On Saturday, April 2, 2005, 12:51:14 AM, Rick wrote:> On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but >> I was hoping for something more wiki like.. >> >> Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet is to >> modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features..> Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a > rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. > There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure.The next version will indeed run fully on Rails. It doesn''t use a database backend, though; the Wiki is kept in RAM. See the Madeleine project for details. Gavin
On an related note, I''ve been trying to think of a good way to swap out the backend for ActiveRecord to use the filesystem instead of a DB. If anyone has an interest in that or any good ideas, let me know. On Apr 1, 2005 5:13 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi Rick, > > Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for persistance.. > so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point where all pages can > be stored in memory). > > I''m planning on building a site that contains a tree of wikis.. where users > can request to add a new wikispace at a point on a tree of topics.. > > So: It doesn''t really need to be rails based but it really should be database > driven to scale well.. > > To fit the bill I''d need to add to Hieraki: WikiWords (intra and inter book > linking), image/file uploads, easy rollback/revision control, tree based > "library" (rather than just tree based inside each book). > > On Friday 01 April 2005 14:51, Rick Olson wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2005 3:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is > > > Hieraki, but I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > > > > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet > > > is to modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > > > Look at Instiki. It''s integrated into webrick, so it''s not actually a > > rails app, but I wouldn''t think it''d be that difficult to convert it. > > There may be plans to do that already, I''m not sure. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Will Schenk http://www.sublimeguile.com http://www.myelinate.com
If I''m not mistaken Instiki is moving to a standard db backend. Check subversion to see if it''s in there yet. -Kate (masukomi-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) On Apr 1, 2005 4:47 AM, Luke Galea <lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all, > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but > I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best bet is to > modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > Thanks in advance for any help! > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
In article <200504010947.35025.lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org>, lgalea- vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org says...> The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but > I was hoping for something more wiki like..I know very little about wikis, but want to use one for an upcoming knowledge base/faq. What wiki features are not in hieraki? -- Jay Levitt | Wellesley, MA | I feel calm. I feel ready. I can only Faster: jay at jay dot fm | conclude that''s because I don''t have a http://www.jay.fm | full grasp of the situation. - Mark Adler
On Apr 1, 2005 10:30 AM, Jay Levitt <jay-news-WxwZQdyI2t0@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In article <200504010947.35025.lgalea-vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA@public.gmane.org>, lgalea- > vvW6YJTQFGvMohDmgNdYFA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org says... > > The closest I''ve found is Hieraki, but > > I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > I know very little about wikis, but want to use one for an upcoming > knowledge base/faq. What wiki features are not in hieraki?Hieraki is a ''hierarchical wiki.'' You write books with chapters as opposed to single wikipages. http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/ is an example. -- rick http://techno-weenie.net
Are you looking for an open-source wiki on Rails? If not, the take a look at http://webcollaborator.com/ -Lucas http://www.rufy.com/ On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Luke Galea wrote:> Hi all, > > I''m hunting for a wiki built on rails.. The closest I''ve found is > Hieraki, but > I was hoping for something more wiki like.. > > Have I missed something in my travels? So far it looks like my best > bet is to > modify Hieraki to add more wiki-like features.. > > Thanks in advance for any help! > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Luke Galea wrote:>Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for persistance.. >so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point where all pages can >be stored in memory). > >The current persistence model of Instiki is not for Wikipedia, for sure, but you may be surprised how much plain text can fit into 256 Mb RAM :) -- Best regards, Alexey Verkhovsky Ruby Forum: http://ruby-forum.org (moderator) RForum: http://rforum.andreas-s.net (co-author) Instiki: http://instiki.org (maintainer)
kate rhodes wrote:>If I''m not mistaken Instiki is moving to a standard db backend. Check >subversion to see if it''s in there yet. > >Kate, you are a bit mistaken, I''m afraid. SQL backend for Instiki is QTE David H. a pipe dream UNQTE I.e., it is something that David wanted to do in some unspecified future :) -- Best regards, Alexey Verkhovsky Ruby Forum: http://ruby-forum.org (moderator) RForum: http://rforum.andreas-s.net (co-author) Instiki: http://instiki.org (maintainer)
On Apr 1, 2005 9:56 PM, Alexey Verkhovsky <alex-vV7tgcE2N9Nhl2p70BpVqQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Luke Galea wrote: > > >Instiki is great! The problem is that it''s using Madeleine for persistance.. > >so it won''t work for larger wiki sites (beyond the point where all pages can > >be stored in memory). > > > > > The current persistence model of Instiki is not for Wikipedia, for sure, > but you may be surprised how much plain text can fit into 256 Mb RAM :)I''m guessing no more than 256Mb... =)
In article <811f2f1c050402110869aae74a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, michael.campbell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org says...> > The current persistence model of Instiki is not for Wikipedia, for sure, > > but you may be surprised how much plain text can fit into 256 Mb RAM :) > > I''m guessing no more than 256Mb... =)No, actually, it uses Zeosync compression... -- Jay Levitt | Wellesley, MA | I feel calm. I feel ready. I can only Faster: jay at jay dot fm | conclude that''s because I don''t have a http://www.jay.fm | full grasp of the situation. - Mark Adler