I noticed that I hadn''t introduced my self - so, if you will - please allow myself to introduce... myself. I''m Ben Nolan - from Wellington, New Zealand - and I''ve been using rails for the last 2 months, building an ecommerce web-app that I hope to have on-line within the next 6 weeks. Ben
H M wrote:>As with anything new, I''m struggling up the learning curve and am at a >stage where it''s taking me hours to track down bugs and figure out why >things aren''t working. >Hewllo and welcome! An unsolicited advice, if I may: use the IRC channel. It may save you a fair amount time at this stage of your learning curve. -- Best regards, Alexey Verkhovsky Ruby Forum: http://ruby-forum.org (moderator) RForum: http://rforum.andreas-s.net (co-author) Instiki: http://instiki.org (maintainer)
Hi All, I''ve been lurking on this list for a few days and thought I''d introduce myself. After reading several positive comments about Rails and the 10x productivity gain claims I finally decided to look into a couple of weeks ago. It seems everyone and their mother has a web dev framework or OR tool these days but what really caught my attention was the fact this was the framework behind Basecamp. Being a usability proponent, I''m a big fan of 37signals'' work and really like Basecamp''s design. I was hoping that I''d find similar elegance and simplicity in the Rails framework as is present in the interface and interaction design of Basecamp. I''ve quickly read through the online version of the pick axe book and worked through the usual tutorials. Feeling a bit more confident I''ve decided to try to develop my next project in Rails. Fortunately the client isn''t concerned about the technology used as long as the application works well. It''s also a fairly simple app so I don''t think I''m taking a big risk in learning the framework on a paying job. At least that''s how I felt two days ago ;) As with anything new, I''m struggling up the learning curve and am at a stage where it''s taking me hours to track down bugs and figure out why things aren''t working. I''m hoping others who''ve gone through the same stage will sympathize and bear with me and answer my obviously noobie questions for the next little while. I''ll post my question in the next email.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:14:39 -0500, H M <airmalik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi All, > > [snip]It gets easier after a while. You still get some oddball error messages from time to time, but Rails is worth it. Just a quick story, I built a decent recipe management thing (not the tutorial that was up) in about 10 hours of work. It''s currently up at http://serendipity.sitharus.com:3000/ if you want to see. In PHP - I''m a professional PHP developer, work 8(ish) hours a day on it - I couldn''t have built it anywhere near as fast. -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ sitharus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org / sitharus-QrR4M9swfipWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Thanks Phillip. I just tried to connect to http://serendipity.sitharus.com:3000 but it timed out. Hammed>Just a quick story, I built a decent recipe management thing (not the >tutorial that was up) in about 10 hours of work. It''s currently up at >http://serendipity.sitharus.com:3000/ if you want to see. In PHP - I''m >a professional PHP developer, work 8(ish) hours a day on it - I >couldn''t have built it anywhere near as fast.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:29:01 -0500, H M <airmalik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Thanks Phillip. > > I just tried to connect to http://serendipity.sitharus.com:3000 but it > timed out. > > HammedSeems to work for me with no problems. Make sure that you''re using :3000, I don''t think I have anything on port 80 at the moment. -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ sitharus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org / sitharus-QrR4M9swfipWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
After reading the list for a couple of days, and making my first post, I thought I had better introduce myself to the list. I''ve been reading up on Rails for just over a week, done a couple of the tutorials, and am now about to start working on something to see how well (or not) the tutorials grounded me :-) I''m coming at Ruby/Rails from (amongst others) a Java/J2EE background where I''ve been mainly focussed on the front and middle tiers. This has included doing a lot of DHTML work replicating traditional thick-client features in ultra-thin web apps so I''ll be interested to look at the guts of Ajax when I get chance. I''ve never really enjoyed that much of the back-end work, thinking "there must be a better way" than the likes of EJB and general meta-hell in the J2EE world. With the more recent trend towards ''better, faster, lighter'' Java and the introduction of the likes of Hibernate it has been moving more towards my ideal but I have still been looking for an environment that lets me concentrate on writing a web application from a web perspective and take some of the drudgery of back-end persistence away from me. I am hoping that Ruby/Rails is what I have been looking for...! With the the introduction out of the way I''m off to get on with my starter app to see how it goes but will almost certainly have some questions for the list sooner rather than later :-) Regards, Andrew